will liquidex get rid of my already existing shest fat. if so.. permanently

[bigmac]

trying to slim down this summer not using any aas until fall. i know liquidex will help b/c i know i have alot of a2's, but what can i expect ans is the progress permanent?

was planning on running .5 mg ed for the rest of the summer (end of august) with ephedrine. followed by a bulking cycle which I will continue to run the ldex.

is it worth it, i can get it prestty cheap?

thanks

BIGMAC

 

[tbro]

no

 

[sermon_of_mockery]

its good for running during cycles that make you bloated,other than that no

 

[bigmac]

bump

 

[PaPaPumPPP]

Mac is the man you want to talk to about this. Guys, he's not talking about Gyno...just estrogen fat. I think it could help....It won't get rid of HARD tissue, but chest fat...is just what it sounds....fat.

To get a certain answer, keep bumping this till MA69 gets on...or PM him.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

IT WILL HELP...

though yohimbine (topical or oral.. preferably topical) should also be used to improve the actual fat loss as well as a good beta agonist(EC, Clen or NYC)-- or best of all.. all 3 rotated every 2-3wk


(decreasing estrogen will decrease agonism and decrease # of A2.. over time.. but it will not increase lipolysis.. though it will be more "possible")

arimidex alone will help, but it may still be slow going.. the above reccomendations should hasten the process monumentally

 

[bigmac]

thanks Mac

 

[wartime100]

Inject pgf-2a into the fat areas.

 

[muscleup]

I have some lower chest fat also and the liquidex is helping with bloat from the Test,Fina,and d-bol....But not with chest fat..But then again I'm bulking also....

 

[abcde20abcde]

that seems pretty ridiculous. liquidex (arimidex) only prevents conversion of test into estrogen. it doesn't get rid of estrogen. in men there is very few estrogen in our bodies to begin with. all liquidex will do is minimize our natural testosterone from turning into estrogen, but this is a miniscule amount. however, if this person is on cycle then of course it would help out, but if you don't have an overflow of aromatizable androgens in your body taking liquidex is a big waste of money. estrogen receptor antagonists like nolva would work much better for your purpose if you're not on cycle and want to prevent estrogen related fat buildup, but again, if you're not on cycle you should have negligeble levels of estrogen, so it doesn't make sense to take any estrogen receptor blockers either.

 

[muscleup]

that seems pretty ridiculous. liquidex (arimidex) only prevents conversion of test into estrogen. it doesn't get rid of estrogen. in men there is very few estrogen in our bodies to begin with. all liquidex will do is minimize our natural testosterone from turning into estrogen, but this is a miniscule amount. however, if this person is on cycle then of course it would help out, but if you don't have an overflow of aromatizable androgens in your body taking liquidex is a big waste of money. estrogen receptor antagonists like nolva would work much better for your purpose if you're not on cycle and want to prevent estrogen related fat buildup, but again, if you're not on cycle you should have negligeble levels of estrogen, so it doesn't make sense to take any estrogen receptor blockers either.

I disagree completely... as I think that the amount of estrogen in a particular persons system is an Individual thing, same as with Test levels...So with a person that has a higher conversion rate for test to estrogen then I think these compounds work wonders

 

[abcde20abcde]

true, test production and aromatase activity is highly individualized... but if a person produces a lot of natural test he'll produce ~75mg per week on the high end. how much of this do you think can actually convert to estrogen? of this estrogen, how much of it do you think will actually effect fat deposit retention? the answer is not much. estrogen will also be eliminated from the body by itself. if a person is not using aromatic androgens the use of aromatase inhibitors is an absolute waste. you're just eliminating negligible amounts of aromatization.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

true, test production and aromatase activity is highly individualized... but if a person produces a lot of natural test he'll produce ~75mg per week on the high end. how much of this do you think can actually convert to estrogen? of this estrogen, how much of it do you think will actually effect fat deposit retention? the answer is not much. estrogen will also be eliminated from the body by itself. if a person is not using aromatic androgens the use of aromatase inhibitors is an absolute waste. you're just eliminating negligible amounts of aromatization.

this is very incorrect.. even small amounts of estrogen in males, especially over time, makes a considerable difference..


eg... as males age and aromatase levels increase (even in the face of less test and much greater 5a reducatase= more dht conversion) female fatty patterns begin to assert themselves with greater amounts of fat stored in chest

btw- in some (actually quite a few) males aromatase levels are very high and they have a female fat pattern from puberty onward.-- some even before that.. with higher est levels delaying "maturity".. this is particularly true among the obese as adipose tissue is a source of aromatase

 

[Elapid]

I can answer from personal experience...anastrozole in any form has greatly reduced the amount of fat around my tits and waist. I've been at 10% bf and still had fatty tits, Im around 13% bf now and that fat is mostly gone the only difference is I'm using 1mg/day of generic anastrozole.

I know this is a strong statement, but anastrozole is the greatest drug ever evented that I've tried.

 

[jboldman]

I like this last summary. The test/estrogen ratio will effect the fat distribution but not really the overall amount of fat. EG, more estrogen will lead to fat being deposited in the chest/butt/thighs rather than the ab area.

jb

this is very incorrect.. even small amounts of estrogen in males, especially over time, makes a considerable difference..


eg... as males age and aromatase levels increase (even in the face of less test and much greater 5a reducatase= more dht conversion) female fatty patterns begin to assert themselves with greater amounts of fat stored in chest

btw- in some (actually quite a few) males aromatase levels are very high and they have a female fat pattern from puberty onward.-- some even before that.. with higher est levels delaying "maturity".. this is particularly true among the obese as adipose tissue is a source of aromatase

 

[rodd45]

the estrogen buildup in males occurs in the chest, love handles waist part of the body, we are different than females, unless you are really fat guy, then you get everywhere.

 

[Punschkrapfen]

might also check this thread: http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=152319

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

I can answer from personal experience...anastrozole in any form has greatly reduced the amount of fat around my tits and waist. I've been at 10% bf and still had fatty tits, Im around 13% bf now and that fat is mostly gone the only difference is I'm using 1mg/day of generic anastrozole.

I know this is a strong statement, but anastrozole is the greatest drug ever evented that I've tried.

Couldn't agree with you more!Liquidex has been the first item I've ever used that has helped me tighten up those last,"stubborn deposits" that never seemed to go away no matter how low I got my BF.It works fantastic,particularly for endomorphic types,as well as folks that accumulate a lot of BF running aromatic compounds.Fantastic stuff.

 

[capnnoway]

OK, I have some fat in the chest area I want to get rid off too.

So I should inject liquidex into my chest and take clen?

I am in Mexico, so how do I get liquidex?
I guess it is a cutting drug?

Also, would it be smart to take clen while taking deca and d-bol?

As you can see I'm a novice, but trying to sort through all of the info guys.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

So I should inject liquidex into my chest and take clen?

I am in Mexico, so how do I get liquidex?

liquidex is a liquid ORAL.. do not inject

it is available in the US.. one of the few things easier to get here than mexico

 

[capnnoway]

thanks, I know nothing about liquidex... is it legal in US?

would clen and liquidex be good for getting rid of fat around the chest?

How much liquidex should I take?