Will Karma for Cycle Help!

[JKurz1]

WK 1-4 25dbol/day
WK 1-10 TEST AT 500MG (sus250 and test enth)

this much I know........Now, I also have 2,000mg of deca, 1,000mg of prop, 2,000 of tren enth and some eq and winny for after........can you help me add any of these compounds to the mix? Much appreciated. Also, can I get away with Nolv., and HCG only pct.........? Clomid scares me!

 

[carlsky]

I would just add the deca because all the other ones will make you cut water and just make you look hard and ripped. I don't belive in bulking and cutting in the same cycle although you can't beat a simple test/tren cycle! Deca would be your best bet for mass anyways. You could get away with nolva and hcg and that is exactly what I am going to take after my d-bol, test, tren cycle.

 

[UA_Iron]

how about adding the Deca in a 200mg/week for weeks 1-10. Your joints will love it.

then prop and winny weeks 9-13 while you wait for the long esters to clear before starting PCT.

 

[Slyder190]

How much EQ and Winny you got? I'd run the D-bol as is, but I'd drop the Sus and just rub Enan @500mg/week for 10 weeks. I'd run Prop the last 2 weeks to keep test levels high as long as possible before PCT begins. Depending on how much EQ and Winny you have, You could run the Winny weeks 7-12. Or run EQ instead from weeks 1-10 at 400-600mg/week. I'd run the HCG during your cycle and Nolva afterwords. I'd stick it out and run Clomid with it for 4 weeks. I go 4 weeks with PCT, with Clomid and Nolva and only use HCG during. I try and get every last bit of help I can get with recovery.

 

[SuperDawgy]

WK 1-4 25dbol/day
WK 1-10 TEST AT 500MG (sus250 and test enth)

this much I know........Now, I also have 2,000mg of deca, 1,000mg of prop, 2,000 of tren enth and some eq and winny for after........can you help me add any of these compounds to the mix? Much appreciated. Also, can I get away with Nolv., and HCG only pct.........? Clomid scares me!

400mg deca weeks 1-6, switching to EQ at 400mg for 7-10
Tren at 200mg weeks 1-6, winny weeks 7-10 at 50mg ed
Drop sus at week 8 and finsh with 100mg prop eod.
HCG during and Nolva after for 3-4 weeks 20mg ed...no clomid.

 

[UA_Iron]

400mg deca weeks 1-6, switching to EQ at 400mg for 7-10
Tren at 200mg weeks 1-6, winny weeks 7-10 at 50mg ed
Drop sus at week 8 and finsh with 100mg prop eod.
HCG during and Nolva after for 3-4 weeks 20mg ed...no clomid.

I dont see the point in running deca for 6 weeks, especially considering that most people dont see it kick in until the 4th week. The same can be said for the EQ. And deca@ 400mg for 6 weeks is 2400mg, more than he has

here's another thought:

1-10 deca @ 200mg/week
1-10 your test mix @ 500mg/week (assuming you dont have enough of just the enanthate to run at 500mg week)
1-4 dbol 25mg/ed
1-10 winny 50mg/eod (supposedly to keep prolactin issues in check - though @ 200mg/week deca wont cause that much.)
9-13 prop eod to allow the long esters to clear

 

[JKurz1]

karma to all...........

1-10 deca @ 200mg/week
1-10 your test mix @ 500mg/week (assuming you dont have enough of just the enanthate to run at 500mg week)
1-4 dbol 25mg/ed
1-10 winny 50mg/eod (supposedly to keep prolactin issues in check - though @ 200mg/week deca wont cause that much.)
9-13 prop eod to allow the long esters to clear

this what I should do??? What about EQ at 400mg wk 1-10 and save the winny til the end with the prop? What about the tren?

 

[UA_Iron]

karma to all...........

1-10 deca @ 200mg/week
1-10 your test mix @ 500mg/week (assuming you dont have enough of just the enanthate to run at 500mg week)
1-4 dbol 25mg/ed
1-10 winny 50mg/eod (supposedly to keep prolactin issues in check - though @ 200mg/week deca wont cause that much.)
9-13 prop eod to allow the long esters to clear

this what I should do??? What about EQ at 400mg wk 1-10 and save the winny til the end with the prop? What about the tren?

It was a suggestion, if you have enough EQ run it at 400mg a week for 10 weeks...though my last cycle had EQ @ 400mg a week and I thought it was a bit overrated. Are you looking to throw in all the compounds?

I'd save the tren until a cutting cycle and get more of it.

 

[JKurz1]

nah....simplier the better......I could also just use the tren,eq and winny for a cutting cycle after?

EQ at 400mg for 10 weeks
Tren at 200mg for 10 weeks
Winny 100mg eod?

 

[Judo Tom]

just for a diff opinion..

add deca at 400mg for the 1st 5 weeks.. i dont like ending cycles with deca or tren.. i have much better recovery if they are at the beginning

add prop 10-13

nolva/hcg is my favorite pct btw
id save the tren for later or for a shorter cycle


i would use the eq at some point.. again either at the beginning /end or spread it out because you are a used to a cutting diet and maybe the eq will help you eat your face off

good luck

 

[JKurz1]

ok, what about tren, eq and winny for a cutter? 5 weeks? tren 500mg, winny 100mg eof, eq at 400mg?

AND first 10 weeks will be:
WK1-4 25mg/dbol/DAILY
WK 1-5 400MG DECA
WK 1- 10 TEST AT 500MG
WK 1-10 400MG EQ???????????

W/ NOLVA AND HCG 2 WEEKS POST............

 

[Judo Tom]

ok, what about tren, eq and winny for a cutter? 5 weeks? tren 500mg, winny 100mg eof, eq at 400mg?

AND first 10 weeks will be:
WK1-4 25mg/dbol/DAILY
WK 1-5 400MG DECA
WK 1- 10 TEST AT 500MG
WK 1-10 400MG EQ???????????

W/ NOLVA AND HCG 2 WEEKS POST............

i like that alot

dont forget you can use the prop after week 10 until pct

 

[JKurz1]

You must spread some Karma around before giving it to Judo Tom again.

 

[gab9681]

Are you fully recovered yet? I seem to remember you having some recovery issues a little while back. If so, be careful running deca. That shit tends to shut you down pretty hard.

 

[JKurz1]

I find out tomorrow............don't feel too much different, but I just wanted to get this lined up for the future...........think I should avoid deca, eh?

 

[gab9681]

I find out tomorrow............don't feel too much different, but I just wanted to get this lined up for the future...........think I should avoid deca, eh?

Don't get me wrong, deca is great stuff, but a lot of guys get shut down hard from it. And if you are already shut down or borderline, you may want to hold off until fully recovered.

 

[SuperDawgy]

ok, what about tren, eq and winny for a cutter? 5 weeks? tren 500mg, winny 100mg eof, eq at 400mg?

AND first 10 weeks will be:
WK1-4 25mg/dbol/DAILY
WK 1-5 400MG DECA
WK 1- 10 TEST AT 500MG
WK 1-10 400MG EQ???????????

W/ NOLVA AND HCG 2 WEEKS POST............

I don't like running deca and EQ together, they are too similar in their effects. If you run the deca for the first 5 weeks and then swap it for EQ, the total results will be close to the same and you don't have to wait the extra week or two to let the deca clear. Also the dbol is a little low, but it depends on how you react to it.

 

[JKurz1]

I don't like running deca and EQ together, they are too similar in their effects. If you run the deca for the first 5 weeks and then swap it for EQ, the total results will be close to the same and you don't have to wait the extra week or two to let the deca clear. Also the dbol is a little low, but it depends on how you react to it.

ok, if I go EQ wks 5-10 and deca wks 1-5, then would you run the eq,winny tren combo to cut and harden up? Also, what do you reccomend for a GOOD dose of PCT?

 

[Anthony Starks]

WK 1-4 25dbol/day
WK 1-10 TEST AT 500MG (sus250 and test enth)

this much I know........Now, I also have 2,000mg of deca, 1,000mg of prop, 2,000 of tren enth and some eq and winny for after........can you help me add any of these compounds to the mix? Much appreciated. Also, can I get away with Nolv., and HCG only pct.........? Clomid scares me!

What's wrong with just sticking with the cycle you laid out (and I would use the enth over the sust IMO)? Do you have so many cycles under your belt that you won't grow from it?

I never use Clomid in my PCT, just Nolva and HCG. I think you will be fine with that too. Good luck!

 

[bicepts101]

I don't like running deca and EQ together, they are too similar in their effects. If you run the deca for the first 5 weeks and then swap it for EQ, the total results will be close to the same and you don't have to wait the extra week or two to let the deca clear. Also the dbol is a little low, but it depends on how you react to it.

this idea makes no sense at all...and i have no idea why anyone ever suggests it...

eq take a min of 4 weeks to takes effect...ussually 4-6...
deca is the same thing maybe a week less...3-5weeks

if you want to use nandrolone and cut it out early...use NPP wks 1-5...go with eq for the entire cycle at low dose--300-400mg ew--or just dont use it cause its useless for any less than 8-10 weeks.

do this since u only have deca:
dbol-25mg ed wks1-4 (you can never go to low on a dbol dose)
test-500mg ew wks1-10
tren enanth-200e4d wks3-8
winny-50mg ed wks8-12

....i say either deca or fina..so i go with fina....save the eq and deca

 

[JKurz1]

do this since u only have deca:
dbol-25mg ed wks1-4 (you can never go to low on a dbol dose)
test (enth and sus) -500mg ew wks1-10
tren enanth-200e4d wks3-8
winny-50mg ed wks8-12


perfect??? That's what I'm doing! How about a cutting cycle to follow up maybe 10 weeks later?

Tren acenate, Eq and winny??? I'll get rid of the deca..........

 

[JKurz1]

do this since u only have deca:
dbol-25mg ed wks1-4 (you can never go to low on a dbol dose)
test (enth and sus) -500mg ew wks1-10
tren enanth-200e4d wks3-8
winny-50mg ed wks8-12

do I need something for the bloat???? Don't wanna be mr moon face!

perfect??? That's what I'm doing! How about a cutting cycle to follow up maybe 10 weeks later?

Tren acenate, Eq and winny??? I'll get rid of the deca..........

 

[TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT]

WK 1-4 25dbol/day
WK 1-10 TEST AT 500MG (sus250 and test enth)

this much I know........Now, I also have 2,000mg of deca, 1,000mg of prop, 2,000 of tren enth and some eq and winny for after........can you help me add any of these compounds to the mix? Much appreciated. Also, can I get away with Nolv., and HCG only pct.........? Clomid scares me!

I love test deca and winny stacked...nolva and HCG are great, if your cycle is long ie. 12+ then you should run the clomid

 

[JKurz1]

thanks bro....so, you think the cycle is adequate? Too much? My diet revampation is NEXT!!!

 

[SuperDawgy]

thanks bro....so, you think the cycle is adequate? Too much? My diet revampation is NEXT!!!

What! You making up new words now or what? Revampation!? Thats mine now bitch! I own that word! lol...send me the deca, i'll use it bro!

 

[JKurz1]

HJahaha...you use that word?? Just thought of it......sorry if it was copywritten........the deca I'm afraid will kill my nutz, which right now, are having a hard time as it is..............just had blood work done and I'm afraid I won't be up to par..........HRT forever idea sucks..................plus, I want kids, and I want to be able to PERFORM!!!!

 

[SuperDawgy]

HJahaha...you use that word?? Just thought of it......sorry if it was copywritten........the deca I'm afraid will kill my nutz, which right now, are having a hard time as it is..............just had blood work done and I'm afraid I won't be up to par..........HRT forever idea sucks..................plus, I want kids, and I want to be able to PERFORM!!!!

I'm done having kids, so send it on bro! I'm going to REVAMPATION my cycle. LOL

 

[bicepts101]

do this since u only have deca:
dbol-25mg ed wks1-4 (you can never go to low on a dbol dose)
test (enth and sus) -500mg ew wks1-10
tren enanth-200e4d wks3-8
winny-50mg ed wks8-12

do I need something for the bloat???? Don't wanna be mr moon face!

perfect??? That's what I'm doing! How about a cutting cycle to follow up maybe 10 weeks later?

Tren acenate, Eq and winny??? I'll get rid of the deca..........

that cycle is perfect...tren, winny, eq
tren-75
winny-75
eq-400