Will adding GH or IGF-1 to my cycle make a big difference?

[Excidium28]

Im gonna be doin a 6 month cycle, where I rotate receptors every 3 weeks, and Im on 3 compounds at all times. My goal is to gain around 30-35 lbs of some lean mass.

Right now Im about 215lbs at 12%bf, my goal is to be around 245lbs @ 9%. Im 23 yrs old.

My cycle:
Group 1.
Anadrol 75mg ED
Dbol 50mg ED
Primobolan 100mg ED

Group 2.
Sustanon 750mg EW
Cypionate 600mg EW
Enanthate 750mg EW

Group 3.
Deca 600mg EW
Tren E 500mg EW
EQ 600mg EW


If I do GH I would do it @ 0.017 IU's/lb bodywt/day 5-6 days/wk, which is about 4IU/day.

Will HGH or IGF-1 make a big enough difference in my cycle that its worth the $$$$?

 

[solidspine]

Absolutely not,


Spend your cash on gear not growth. All nuance aside, gear works, growth is a waste of money.

 

[black sheep]

rHGH at 10iu EOD is helping me make better gains on this clean bulker than previous ones. Nothing has really changed except the addition of rHGH and using NPP in place of deca.

 

[bighippie11]

you're gonna be on over 1.5g of test for group 2?? can't say i really think all that is necessary, especially for "clean" gains. and if you're only on your group 2 and group 3 for 3 weeks at a time then you'll be off that group for 6 wks. then i wouldn't be surprised if you got to full potential for any of those substances. their esters take 3 wks or longer to start kicking in and by that time you'll be switching aas. and tren and deca together isn't a good idea either. no reason for 2 nandrolones... why take drol and dbol together? too much liver strain. and it's gonna be real tough to lose bf% with drol,dbol,deca,and those test esters

 

[Excidium28]

you're gonna be on over 1.5g of test for group 2?? can't say i really think all that is necessary, especially for "clean" gains. and if you're only on your group 2 and group 3 for 3 weeks at a time then you'll be off that group for 6 wks. then i wouldn't be surprised if you got to full potential for any of those substances. their esters take 3 wks or longer to start kicking in and by that time you'll be switching aas. and tren and deca together isn't a good idea either. no reason for 2 nandrolones... why take drol and dbol together? too much liver strain. and it's gonna be real tough to lose bf% with drol,dbol,deca,and those test esters

Oops, I should of wrote it diferently, I didnt feel like writing my whole cycle out just listed the AS im gonna be using and groups are more like receptors not the 3 compounds im gonna be using at the same time. Its more like

Anadrol 75mg ED
Sustanon 750mg EW
Deca 600mg EW

Than
Dbol 50mg ED
Cypionate 600mg EW
EQ 600mg EW

Etc.

Heres the link to my cycle listed a lil clearlier if you feel like lookin at it.
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=508552

 

[Kachunga]

According to your avatar, if thats you, you are more like 7-8%
Everyone has their opinions but I lean towards the hgh, igf-1 with my cycle. Alot of big mofos using these peptides with their as.

 

[Excidium28]

According to your avatar, if thats you, you are more like 7-8%
Everyone has their opinions but I lean towards the hgh, igf-1 with my cycle. Alot of big mofos using these peptides with their as.

My avatar is like a year and a half old, im at 208lbs at 8% on there.

IGF-1 is cheapet than HGH, which one would be better?

 

[tab1]

What's your thought's on Anadrol?

 

[Kachunga]

My avatar is like a year and a half old, im at 208lbs at 8% on there.

IGF-1 is cheapet than HGH, which one would be better?

IGF-1lr3 by itself you won't notice much improvement.
hgh by itself you won't notice much improvement.
BUT add anabolics and these two work wonders.
If $ was an issue, I would use AS and insulin first, then add the igf-1. If $ is not an issue, add the hgh to the above.
Thats what I did and to date I have added about 25 lbs to my frame while dropping about 3%bf. And I am aonly half way through my AS, with another 6 months of igf-1 and gh to go!

 

[Excidium28]

What's your thought's on Anadrol?

I love the stuff, I'd have to say its probably my favorite AS.

 

[Excidium28]

IGF-1lr3 by itself you won't notice much improvement.
hgh by itself you won't notice much improvement.
BUT add anabolics and these two work wonders.
If $ was an issue, I would use AS and insulin first, then add the igf-1. If $ is not an issue, add the hgh to the above.
Thats what I did and to date I have added about 25 lbs to my frame while dropping about 3%bf. And I am aonly half way through my AS, with another 6 months of igf-1 and gh to go!

How long have you been on cycle? Whats it look like? Is your diet pretty clean or does HGH allow you to cheat more?

I get in too big of mood swings on insulin, and I dont really like fukin with it, do to the fact that it can kill you. And with only 4IU's/day I wont need any insulin.

What do you guys think about Thanktropin GH?

 

[Excidium28]

So how much IGF would I need If I was plannin on doin HGH at 4iu/day. Would I still do it 5 days/week?

I was readin some articles and sounds like that IGF-1 would be more suitable for my goals.

 

[bighippie11]

cool man we're on the same page now. i think i'd prefer igf1 lr3

 

[Kachunga]

How long have you been on cycle? Whats it look like? Is your diet pretty clean or does HGH allow you to cheat more?

I get in too big of mood swings on insulin, and I dont really like fukin with it, do to the fact that it can kill you. And with only 4IU's/day I wont need any insulin.

What do you guys think about Thanktropin GH?

I started 8/31.
1-8 1g of cyp/week Cyp
1-8 600mg/week EQ
1-24 4 units of Jintropin and Hygetropin gh
1-4,9-12,17-20 100mcgs/day Omega Labs Igf-1Lr3
5-8,13-16,21-24 10 iu HumR pwo (early afternoon) 10 iu HumR 7pm
9-16 1g/week of Sust
9-16 75 mgs/ed Tren Ace
I didn't know Insulin would cause mood swings, I never feel any neg effects from it. I use the insulin to shuttle nutrients back into the muscle, so regardless of dose, I think its a real disadvantage not to use it.
I have not heard of Thanktropin.