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jetty

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I've been on for a total of 9 months and before I even bought my shit my wife was in on it. I explained to her what steroids were like much like Romano in MD justifies it to the American public. I went over all the myths and with scientific evidence explained to her that it was a calculated risk with an significcant return on the investment. For 9 months everything was kosher. Hell, she even gave me about 6-7 shots in the glutes before i decided i couldn't do the glutes anymore. Well all of the sudden she's telling me i need to stop my use. When we fight she even attempts to tell me she's gonna throw it all away. Here are my thoughts and maybe some of you bros can pitch in. First off, i'm big as fuck. Everywhere we go people notice me and comment about my 20 lbs. of newly added muscle. Has this gone to my head? Hell yes. I'm back to wearing my hats on backwards and switched out the John Mayer CD's with Godsmack and Rage. 2nd off, we are having issues about sex. Long story short, i don't get it enough. I'm talking 1 time every 3 weeks. For the first 4 1/2 years that didn't matter but now it does to me. She knows that Anabolics cause libido increases (which i should NOT have told her). I'm not exactly sure at this point what my angle is other than to tell her it's me and the GEAR or no YOU. Make her feel expendable i suppose.
 
one thing ive learned is when you make the woman feel good she will want to have sex more often. romance her.
 
Bro,

You did change the rules on her in the middle of the game. Sex once every 3 weeks never would have been enough for me but that's what she got used to and you even admit that it is the gear that caused the changed.

I'm sure she's not happy with your new attitude either. It doesn't matter if you're big as fuck; she doesn't like you cocky. I'll bet that not many other people do either. Act your age and wear your hat like a normal human being. ;-)

Try to find a compromise here so you both get what you want. The deal I made with my wife is this: I spend extra time with her, doing the things that she values like family outings or taking her shopping. I bring her home surprises when I come home from work so she knows I was thinking about her. In general I spoil her and make her feel special.

In return, she gives me sex when I want it...even though it's more often than she would choose. Basically, I take care of her, she takes care of me.

BTW, the sex is better when you make her feel special.
 
you've got a good point there. I've always felt like a BJ was just a known responsiblity of a good wife. Kinda like me taking out the trash or mowing the yard. Guess i need to be reprogrammed. Maybe i'll watch the Notebook this weekend and take notes..
 
Maybe she didnt like the new attidude, ts nice to feel confident and all, but maybe you got to caught up in it to fast? i wouldnt go the gear or me route..
 
yeah, i'm thinking it would work but cause more strain than what's needed on our marriage. I'm going to kill her with kindness i suppose. And it's not like the gear has turned me into a jackass, i just am a little more confident than usual. Women like a little of that but not too much. I think her issues with my drug use would not be as strong if these other factors weren't in the mix. I'm just frustrated cause i was so close to getting a few HGH kits but having those in the fridge and doing ED injections i'm almost positive she'd flip.
 
Marriage should be banned.
 
well she's 26 and i've come to the conclusion that only mistresses crave cock. Once you marry you come to the realization that women don't like the taste of your manhood and ironically, the smile she gave you as she walked down the aisle was merely the thought that she in fact just gave her last BJ. She was a virgin on our wedding night how was i suppose to know. Guess i was hoping she'd be a betty crocker in the kitchen and a whore in the bedroom.
 
jetty said:
well she's 26 and i've come to the conclusion that only mistresses crave cock. Once you marry you come to the realization that women don't like the taste of your manhood and ironically, the smile she gave you as she walked down the aisle was merely the thought that she in fact just gave her last BJ. She was a virgin on our wedding night how was i suppose to know. Guess i was hoping she'd be a betty crocker in the kitchen and a whore in the bedroom.
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wow, a virgin, i always wanted to fuck a virgin once and still do want to, i told the wife if a virgin ever offers me pussy im gonna fuck her. anyways, are you on some angry shit like tren or halo. test makes me fucking fall in love with her again, i ran my first cycles this past 6 months and haven't sent her flowers in like 6 years and im like sending her flowers and thinking of all the ways to butter her up, but that's how the test makes me feel, i don't feel all cocky and shit. thought i would actually though from all the bs you hear about aas. dude, at least she was at a point pretty cool about taking it, she even helped you take shots dude, the only reason she wouldn't like it now is cause your attitude is changed and thats' why your not getting ass and she's not liking it. you are owning up to it though and thinking it clearly which is good cause she's your wife and im sure she loves you to death. work on her as hard as you work in the gym and over time you'll get results just like the gym.


my wife had a spell like that though bro, i've been with her 10 years. now in her ol age of 28, has she admitted she likes girls, fantasizes about me fucking other girls and her fucking other girls and her and other girls sucking me off and lets me fukc her in the ass and gives me blow job whenever i want. it's all the relationship bro. good luck man.

but she still won't let me cum in her mouth damnit. im working on it though
 
jagerbombme said:
wow, a virgin, i always wanted to fuck a virgin once and still do want to, i told the wife if a virgin ever offers me pussy im gonna fuck her. anyways, are you on some angry shit like tren or halo. test makes me fucking fall in love with her again, i ran my first cycles this past 6 months and haven't sent her flowers in like 6 years and im like sending her flowers and thinking of all the ways to butter her up, but that's how the test makes me feel, i don't feel all cocky and shit. thought i would actually though from all the bs you hear about aas. dude, at least she was at a point pretty cool about taking it, she even helped you take shots dude, the only reason she wouldn't like it now is cause your attitude is changed and thats' why your not getting ass and she's not liking it. you are owning up to it though and thinking it clearly which is good cause she's your wife and im sure she loves you to death. work on her as hard as you work in the gym and over time you'll get results just like the gym.


my wife had a spell like that though bro, i've been with her 10 years. now in her ol age of 28, has she admitted she likes girls, fantasizes about me fucking other girls and her fucking other girls and her and other girls sucking me off and lets me fukc her in the ass and gives me blow job whenever i want. it's all the relationship bro. good luck man.

but she still won't let me cum in her mouth damnit. im working on it though
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Hey jager, your thread is giving me a hardon. How can something so wrong feel so right? lol. Yeah, i'm into all that kinky shit and the wifey often wonders what's wrong with me. We definitely aren't sexually a good fit for each other but i'm not exactly sure you marry for sex alone. I think i've found some clarity on this whole deal.. thanks guys.

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Hey bros I gotta tell ya what I did. GET YOUR WIFE SOME PRIMO AND VAR!!! :chomp: :p = :heart:
 
Bro whatever is the problem you gotta tell her. Marriage is not a torture nor a cage; talk to her, tell her how you feel, even if you have to fight with her, but she MUST know; if the problem never is resolved, you either divorce or get another girl but nobody deserves to be sentenced and tortured like that in something called marriage that in other words is just a crappy contract.

long term relationships are great and beautiful but that friggin' signature (marriage) makes you lose a lot and gain almost nothing. No signature is required to prove love. And love lasts as long as you complement your personal happiness each other. she doesn't make you happy, you do not make her happy. You both should be happy with themselves and your life and the partner's life is a complement for that happiness. If one decrease the other happiness in any aspect, the affected party has all the right in the world to demand that back or walk away without punishment; in our current society you get punished anyways, and that is called DIVORCE.
 
I had a couple questions - you've been ON for 9 months? Any down time / PCT?

The thing w/ AAS is that it does affect your moods and like I was saying in the other thread yesterday about the wife dealing w/ the husband on AAS w/ the mood swings, etc. comparing to women having their periods every month & the man having to deal w/ it every month as well. The difference in those 2 situations is that women don't have a choice in controlling the hormone-driven experiences whereas anyone on AAS HAS the choice. Therefore it is THEIR responsibility to learn how to identify & manage the mood swings, the 'changes' that may actually not be apparent to them but can be very apparent to their loved ones. Another even simpler example is during BB competition on low carb days - I ride the edge of raving lunacy low carb day, but I have learned to recognize it & deal - it is no one else's job to 'understand' or 'cut me some slack' or 'leave me the fuck alone' when I'm low carbing - I chose to do it and it affects everyone around me. That's MY responsibility to deal w/ it - not theirs.

Since she's already been in on it, I think you really should take the time to have an honest discussion w/ her about why she's changed her mind about it all - not accuse or anything - just be very objective and open about what she doesn't like about it, does she see changes in you, etc?

I also suggest for ANY woman that is in a situation involving AAS, I think SHE should educate HERSELF - not just listen to what you tell her. That applies to both women who are interested in AAS for themselves as well as women who are dealing w/ it in the lives of their men. Then she can evolve her own, truly her own, thoughts on it as well as whatever you tell her / you talk about together.
 
Sassy69 said:
I had a couple questions - you've been ON for 9 months? Any down time / PCT?

The thing w/ AAS is that it does affect your moods and like I was saying in the other thread yesterday about the wife dealing w/ the husband on AAS w/ the mood swings, etc. comparing to women having their periods every month & the man having to deal w/ it every month as well. The difference in those 2 situations is that women don't have a choice in controlling the hormone-driven experiences whereas anyone on AAS HAS the choice. Therefore it is THEIR responsibility to learn how to identify & manage the mood swings, the 'changes' that may actually not be apparent to them but can be very apparent to their loved ones. Another even simpler example is during BB competition on low carb days - I ride the edge of raving lunacy low carb day, but I have learned to recognize it & deal - it is no one else's job to 'understand' or 'cut me some slack' or 'leave me the fuck alone' when I'm low carbing - I chose to do it and it affects everyone around me. That's MY responsibility to deal w/ it - not theirs.

Since she's already been in on it, I think you really should take the time to have an honest discussion w/ her about why she's changed her mind about it all - not accuse or anything - just be very objective and open about what she doesn't like about it, does she see changes in you, etc?

I also suggest for ANY woman that is in a situation involving AAS, I think SHE should educate HERSELF - not just listen to what you tell her. That applies to both women who are interested in AAS for themselves as well as women who are dealing w/ it in the lives of their men. Then she can evolve her own, truly her own, thoughts on it as well as whatever you tell her / you talk about together.
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NICE!!!! :)
 
:)

Self-medicating w/ hormones -- people don't realize just how fundamental our hormones & personal body chemistry is to who we are / how we think / how we act / how we feel about ourselves. I've been single when I've done competition prep so I've never been a miserable bitch to anyone directly in my house - however my parents were the target of several long distance calls during my first prep experience 6 1/2 yrs ago to the point that I STILL can't talk to them about diet. I didn't even tell them I did a show last summer until 3 days AFTER the show was over. THAT"S how much it affects how you interact w/ other people -- my parents who love me unconditionally and are 1500 miles away couldn't stand to be around me.

Here's another example -- http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=526017 -- just to let you know-- Quad is one of the sweetest, most personally aware person I know and here he is telling you how it is.

So don't let yourself get too caught up in how the AAS is making you feel - it gives you that feeling of well-being and power, health & strength. What good is a cocky attitude if it costs you the person who knows & loves you the most?

That's where you sort of have half the battle already won in that your wife is aware of the stuff and you at least arent' sneaking around her back. But seems now something has changed and she wants things back to 'normal'. Or maybe she feels like her relationship w/ you is threatened by your change in attitude and she needs you to continue acknowledging her place in your life as noted above. Whatever it is, the whole discussion of 'what AAS does to you' is not so much an issue so you need to be very open & honest and discuss it -- if she can voice what specifically it is that changed or whatever.

And like I said before - if you've been ON for 9 months, has that been a straight 9 months where a lot of your life has been centering around your looks, the size of your muscles, your training, how cocky you feel, etc. -- that's a long time for someone else to support your excitement in your new lifestyle -- maybe she is tired of the topic, maybe it is cutting into HER lifestyle, maybe she's tired of other people's comments about you or their attention to you or whatever. Her feelings are legitimate whatever they are so they should be listend to and acknowledged and considered.

And for you -- generally you can't stay on AAS 'all the time' -- just like contest prep - it should go in cycles -- you are on, you get big, you feel that euphoria of life, etc., then you have to come down as well and let your natural test production run for a while. However you feel now, tone down the desire to be like that 'all the time' and look at it as a phase in your fitness lifestyle that has its time and results, and then you come off, let your system recover, accept that you aren't always going to feel like Superman, learn to adjust down and then back up if you cycle again. But keep an even keel to it all for you and for her.

Anyway -- also wanted to let you invite your wife to the women's board if she has questions or wants her own focus on 'fitness', etc. instead of all you you you you you :)
 
Or tell your wife to read "Elite between the sheets forum". She will let that chair wet and will rape you as soon as you cross the door.
 
jetty said:
well she's 26 and i've come to the conclusion that only mistresses crave cock. Once you marry you come to the realization that women don't like the taste of your manhood and ironically, the smile she gave you as she walked down the aisle was merely the thought that she in fact just gave her last BJ. She was a virgin on our wedding night how was i suppose to know. Guess i was hoping she'd be a betty crocker in the kitchen and a whore in the bedroom.
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I have never bought a car without driving it....you should have known a woman that waited is not going to be a whore in bed. I was married once and while not as bad as of a deal as you have....I am divorced.

Quad
 
Quadsweep said:
I have never bought a car without driving it....
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Amen to that shit! I cant believe I actually just read about someone who waited till marriage. You almost never see that these days.

No chance in hell I would marry a woman if I wasnt sure the sex was good. Period
:jenscat
 
Sassy69 said:
:)

Self-medicating w/ hormones -- people don't realize just how fundamental our hormones & personal body chemistry is to who we are / how we think / how we act / how we feel about ourselves. I've been single when I've done competition prep so I've never been a miserable bitch to anyone directly in my house - however my parents were the target of several long distance calls during my first prep experience 6 1/2 yrs ago to the point that I STILL can't talk to them about diet. I didn't even tell them I did a show last summer until 3 days AFTER the show was over. THAT"S how much it affects how you interact w/ other people -- my parents who love me unconditionally and are 1500 miles away couldn't stand to be around me.

Here's another example -- http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=526017 -- just to let you know-- Quad is one of the sweetest, most personally aware person I know and here he is telling you how it is.

So don't let yourself get too caught up in how the AAS is making you feel - it gives you that feeling of well-being and power, health & strength. What good is a cocky attitude if it costs you the person who knows & loves you the most?

That's where you sort of have half the battle already won in that your wife is aware of the stuff and you at least arent' sneaking around her back. But seems now something has changed and she wants things back to 'normal'. Or maybe she feels like her relationship w/ you is threatened by your change in attitude and she needs you to continue acknowledging her place in your life as noted above. Whatever it is, the whole discussion of 'what AAS does to you' is not so much an issue so you need to be very open & honest and discuss it -- if she can voice what specifically it is that changed or whatever.

And like I said before - if you've been ON for 9 months, has that been a straight 9 months where a lot of your life has been centering around your looks, the size of your muscles, your training, how cocky you feel, etc. -- that's a long time for someone else to support your excitement in your new lifestyle -- maybe she is tired of the topic, maybe it is cutting into HER lifestyle, maybe she's tired of other people's comments about you or their attention to you or whatever. Her feelings are legitimate whatever they are so they should be listend to and acknowledged and considered.

And for you -- generally you can't stay on AAS 'all the time' -- just like contest prep - it should go in cycles -- you are on, you get big, you feel that euphoria of life, etc., then you have to come down as well and let your natural test production run for a while. However you feel now, tone down the desire to be like that 'all the time' and look at it as a phase in your fitness lifestyle that has its time and results, and then you come off, let your system recover, accept that you aren't always going to feel like Superman, learn to adjust down and then back up if you cycle again. But keep an even keel to it all for you and for her.

Anyway -- also wanted to let you invite your wife to the women's board if she has questions or wants her own focus on 'fitness', etc. instead of all you you you you you :)
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You've got some good points. Nice to see a woman's perspective for a change. You are so right as far as being more self-centered, cocky, popular, etc. Hell even my own family and relatives seem to like me more now that i'm jacked. It's probably a combination of things all of which are in this post. I guess "toning" it down would be my best angle and I certainly don't want to make my marriage any worse than it is. Maybe sacrifice just a bit on not spend so much time on the internet, or tanning, etc. One more thing, this is about the two posts about virgins- I understand your logic and your way of thinking but just understand that half of America doesn't think that way. Your conservatives down here in the south believe premarital marriage is wrong. Anyway, thanks again.
 
Sassy69 said:
And like I said before - if you've been ON for 9 months, has that been a straight 9 months where a lot of your life has been centering around your looks, the size of your muscles, your training, how cocky you feel, etc. -- that's a long time for someone else to support your excitement in your new lifestyle -- maybe she is tired of the topic, maybe it is cutting into HER lifestyle, maybe she's tired of other people's comments about you or their attention to you or whatever. Her feelings are legitimate whatever they are so they should be listend to and acknowledged and considered.
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That's a great post Sassy. I needed to read it.
 
solidspine said:
Having the same issue, my wife wants to buy me a fake –whatever – to jack off?
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I spent 2 yrs of my last 5 yr relationship with a girl that had little interest in sex. At first she was a total whore in bed letting me 3-hole qualify her regularly. Then over a 3 yr period she slowly "weened" me down to one load extraction of my choice every couple months. I couldve pressed the issue and got it more often, but I wasn't about to ask her to bang me if she didnt want to on her own. I'll never tolerate something like that again. Normally I wouldn't anyway but since she was a stripper I just accepted her lack of interest in sex as one of her flaws. I figure 7-8 yrs of shaking your ass nightly might do that. Still, never again will I deal with that shit. What's the point of dating a hot chick if you never bang her? It's like owning a ferrari you can never drive-yet you still have the payment, maintenance, insurance, etc.
 
Amen. I started juicing at age 48, and didn't realize one of the benefits was increased libido. I hadn't had a.m. wood in ten years and just figured it was part of getting old. All of a sudden the little feller was begging for attention and my attitude toward getting laid shifted into high school gear. I lucked out and this young milf fell in love with me. Istill can't believe it, but... I made it very clear that i need a lot of sex for at least the next 10-15 years and she was all for it. It's been two great years and now were engaged even though in 30 years she'll be changing diapers again. Mine!
 
lmao... on the diapers comment. Oh yeah, sassy i've done PCT but only half of what was needed for instance.. 3 month cycle... 1.5 month layoff with PCT.
 
You said that before your gear use you were having sex once every 3 weeks and it wasn't an issue. THAT IS A BIG ISSUE WHEN YOU"RE WITH SOMEONE WHETHER MARRIED OR NOT! And now that you're all amped up you want it every day right? You have to fix that problem when you are on PCT bro. Only you and your wife can figure it out, but you have to get that up to at least 1-2 time per week without gear. That way when you're on, she can expect you to want it a couple more times per week than usual.
 
I'm still using gear without my old lady knowing i've been married five years, and gearing up for three of them, she just thinks i'm a freakin beast she's always talking to her sisters and friends about it. I'm just tired of sneaking around. I usually just take an extra long time in the bathroom when I take a shower leave the shower running and she thinks i'm beating off.
 
twice a week for me would be a godsend. getting a bj from the ole' lady seems like a medicinal process. She might as well wear latex gloves. I can't remember the last time i actually thought of her while i was getting head. lol. Marriage if for life though. Gotta do counseling, porn you know whatever it takes man.... A romp in the hay every 3 weeks will do but i'm trying to get once a week. Scary thing is maybe i'm finally getting use to it? Maybe i don't want it either? ha ha. enough of this thread though. This is an AS board right?
 
I had to post on this one, I dont know about alot of other broz but Im luck as hell when It comes to my wife. She is the most saportive person I know 95% of the time and I think she like it when Im on or off but I think she likes it more when Im on LOL.... FG will help me with pinz and all, she even understands the pct shit that I go thrue but she also likes how her hubby is 245ibs standing next to her in the mall in line wile she is paying the casher :p ............

Oh well I guess Im lucky LOL....................
 
Castro_bigdog said:
I had to post on this one, I dont know about alot of other broz but Im luck as hell when It comes to my wife. She is the most saportive person I know 95% of the time and I think she like it when Im on or off but I think she likes it more when Im on LOL.... FG will help me with pinz and all, she even understands the pct shit that I go thrue but she also likes how her hubby is 245ibs standing next to her in the mall in line wile she is paying the casher :p ............

Oh well I guess Im lucky LOL....................
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Im with you on that bro! my wife and i can talk about anything! she knows all about gear and wants to do everything with me so much that she even had me get her some supplements of her own!! ive never known a girl that likes sucking cock so much either!!!
 
My wife knows about my use and will even do some injections for me. We've been married for 13yrs and still having sex 5 times a week and sometimes more than that when time permits.Before anyone gets married they should live together for a couple years to make sure they have the found the right person and to see if they change in that time or not.
 
my thoughts as i have posted time and time again. some things are better kept secret. as long as gear is illegal, keep it secret. hell hath mo feury like a scorned woman! you say today, "but, i want to share everything with my wife, blah, blah, blah. remember your wife today could be your ex wife tomorrow!
 
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