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Why you should be strong.

kingkrs

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"A man who doesn't exercise will have a weak body, a sluggish mind, weak will and will lack energy. He can hardly hope to succeed in the the times that we are experiencing and can expect to continue to an uncertain time in the future. And the man that lives right and exercises right not only obtains tremendously powerful muscles that obey his every command but his internal organs perform their duties perfectly. He also obtains a thorough mastery of his will and an easy and contented mind.

This frequent employment of one's will power makes it possible to control the body and to easily perform feats that otherwise would be difficult or impossible. This type of man becomes independent and self-reliant. He will never be a coward and when real danger threatens, he is the one that others look to and depend upon.

When a man is strong he has a real mastery over himself. This strength breeds energy and courage, helps to meet with success the more difficult problems and tasks of life. Results in true contentment and enjoyment of living. Who would want to be inactive and weak when proper physical training benefits so greatly?"


-Bob Hoffman-


I had gotten this off another site and thought you all might agree and relate to this as I did.

Keep training and stay motivated!
 
Honestly, stuff like that makes me gag now. It's too pseudo-motivational and just seems like they're trying to sound some what prophetic (that's a word now, if it wasn't before). I understand the premise, I agree to some extent, but I can't read shit like that any more. I find my own drive anyway.
 
Anthrax Invasion said:
Honestly, stuff like that makes me gag now. It's too pseudo-motivational and just seems like they're trying to sound some what prophetic (that's a word now, if it wasn't before). I understand the premise, I agree to some extent, but I can't read shit like that any more. I find my own drive anyway.
Keep in mind this was written in the thirties. A time when it wasn't common to be strong, or be a bodybuilder for that matter.
 
Anthrax Invasion said:
Honestly, stuff like that makes me gag now. It's too pseudo-motivational and just seems like they're trying to sound some what prophetic (that's a word now, if it wasn't before). I understand the premise, I agree to some extent, but I can't read shit like that any more. I find my own drive anyway.

Sounds like someones back on a post bashing rampage... :chomp:

I think I smarter than you so I shit on all your posts...

Get a life bitch!!!
 
Chambewy20 said:
Sounds like someones back on a post bashing rampage... :chomp:

I think I smarter than you so I shit on all your posts...

Get a life bitch!!!

:FRlol: Shut up. :rolleyes:
 
i dont see anything lame about it at all... this should be on the homepage for Elite Fitness... out mission statement!!!
our society is so fat and overweight and "weak" (minded too)... that is what makes me gag, is seeing people feed their kids McD's 3 times a day 7 days a week (yes I realy know people who do that!)
K for post!!!
 
kingkrs said:
Keep in mind this was written in the thirties. A time when it wasn't common to be strong, or be a bodybuilder for that matter.

Nah, that's cool, just not my thing. Motivational stuff is very generic, so it never hits home with me. As I said, I agree with some of the stuff in that, but the choice of words is going out of the way. I can just say "strength is good". Enough for me. 'cause then I can follow the chain of strength, courage, pride, confidence, money, power, fame, sex, drugs, rock and roll or wherever it'll take you. :p
 
kingkrs said:

"A man who doesn't exercise will have a weak body, a sluggish mind, weak will and will lack energy. He can hardly hope to succeed in the the times that we are experiencing and can expect to continue to an uncertain time in the future. And the man that lives right and exercises right not only obtains tremendously powerful muscles that obey his every command but his internal organs perform their duties perfectly. He also obtains a thorough mastery of his will and an easy and contented mind.

This frequent employment of one's will power makes it possible to control the body and to easily perform feats that otherwise would be difficult or impossible. This type of man becomes independent and self-reliant. He will never be a coward and when real danger threatens, he is the one that others look to and depend upon.

When a man is strong he has a real mastery over himself. This strength breeds energy and courage, helps to meet with success the more difficult problems and tasks of life. Results in true contentment and enjoyment of living. Who would want to be inactive and weak when proper physical training benefits so greatly?"


-Bob Hoffman-


I had gotten this off another site and thought you all might agree and relate to this as I did.

Keep training and stay motivated!

The whole quote honestly is a total joke. I've been working out for years and am mighty strong but sometimes I think that "we" need to get overourselves and get off our pedestals. Working out doesn't make us better or stronger (at least not mentally or emotionally stronger) then anyone else no more then money makes another person better or stronger. I mean we work out to look good and feel good. End of story. I mean look at this bullshit quite "He also obtains a thorough mastery of his will and an easy and contented mind.". You think this applies to most bodybuilders? What about all the substance abusers in the bodybuilding industry? I mean the whole thing is filled with total bullshit quotes...Here's another one "This strength breeds energy and courage, helps to meet with success the more difficult problems and tasks of life".
 
dosteov said:
The whole quote honestly is a total joke. I've been working out for years and am mighty strong but sometimes I think that "we" need to get overourselves and get off our pedestals. Working out doesn't make us better or stronger (at least not mentally or emotionally stronger) then anyone else no more then money makes another person better or stronger. I mean we work out to look good and feel good. End of story. I mean look at this bullshit quite "He also obtains a thorough mastery of his will and an easy and contented mind.". You think this applies to most bodybuilders? What about all the substance abusers in the bodybuilding industry? I mean the whole thing is filled with total bullshit quotes...Here's another one "This strength breeds energy and courage, helps to meet with success the more difficult problems and tasks of life".

Non-believer! It's true! I lifted weights, and then I became CEO of my company. EXPLAIN THAT!

:FRlol:
 
dosteov said:
The whole quote honestly is a total joke. I've been working out for years and am mighty strong but sometimes I think that "we" need to get overourselves and get off our pedestals. Working out doesn't make us better or stronger (at least not mentally or emotionally stronger) then anyone else no more then money makes another person better or stronger. I mean we work out to look good and feel good. End of story. I mean look at this bullshit quite "He also obtains a thorough mastery of his will and an easy and contented mind.". You think this applies to most bodybuilders? What about all the substance abusers in the bodybuilding industry? I mean the whole thing is filled with total bullshit quotes...Here's another one "This strength breeds energy and courage, helps to meet with success the more difficult problems and tasks of life".

I think that this applies to someone who trains to better themselves rather than just to look good in the mirror. I bet if you ask ten poeple who strength train, 9 out of that 10 would say they have gained a greater self confidence, and or mental tooughness. The man wrote this in the 1930's well before the "substance abusers" and other dickheads in the bodybuilding industry. I feel it is true, if I can will myself to grow and get stronger, then most other difficult tasks that life gives me are a little easier. I mean getting stronger and bigger is nothing but small determined accomplishments. So one can apply those "victories" and self confidence gained twards future endeavors. It has worked for me.

Maybe you should question why you go to the gym. Besides who said "we" are on a pedestal? Maybe you, but I do not put myself on one just because I train to get stronger. I definatley feel like a more capable person because of my strength training.
 
kingkrs said:
I think that this applies to someone who trains to better themselves rather than just to look good in the mirror. I bet if you ask ten poeple who strength train, 9 out of that 10 would say they have gained a greater self confidence, and or mental tooughness. The man wrote this in the 1930's well before the "substance abusers" and other dickheads in the bodybuilding industry. I feel it is true, if I can will myself to grow and get stronger, then most other difficult tasks that life gives me are a little easier. I mean getting stronger and bigger is nothing but small determined accomplishments. So one can apply those "victories" and self confidence gained twards future endeavors. It has worked for me.

Maybe you should question why you go to the gym. Besides who said "we" are on a pedestal? Maybe you, but I do not put myself on one just because I train to get stronger. I definatley feel like a more capable person because of my strength training.

Good stuff, as do I. Training does help build confidence to a degree, even if you train for vanity. Any accomplishment builds confidence and pride, and that makes you succeed in other areas, 'cause you have a better mental outlook. And yes, the mind contributes a lot to any endeavor.
 
Anthrax Invasion said:
Good stuff, as do I. Training does help build confidence to a degree, even if you train for vanity. Any accomplishment builds confidence and pride, and that makes you succeed in other areas, 'cause you have a better mental outlook. And yes, the mind contributes a lot to any endeavor.

I would wonder why in my red karma message you told me to go back to C&C, and who says I am a stupid cunt? I can't recall anyone having said that, did someone mention to you that I was? Who are "they"?

Do you feel I should go back to C&C because I know nothing about powerlifting? I wonder....If you feel this is true and that I am a stupid cunt - tell me why.

I disapproved of your post because (it appears to me) you like to start trouble with people you tend not to agree with. Forums are for learning and everyone has something to contribute. When you attack others or insult them, there is no motivation for them to return - wouldn't you say this is true? I'm all ears if you feel I don't belong in the PL or lifting forums, and an explanation why. Man up.
 
kingkrs said:
if I can will myself to grow and get stronger, then most other difficult tasks that life gives me are a little easier. I mean getting stronger and bigger is nothing but small determined accomplishments. So one can apply those "victories" and self confidence gained twards future endeavors.

Agreed. Learning to succeed in one area can help in others. No question. And mental toughness and determination that you learn in weights can help in other areas.

That said though, I find that bodybuilding (note I didn't say weight training) can have a negative effect on a lot of lifters. They can become very self-absorbed and I think their confidence actually takes a hit b/c they're constantly critiquing themselves, comparing themselves to others, looking at themselves in the mirror. Can be very unhealthy. And I think that's why some of them need to walk around w/ their arms sticking out, kind of swaggering to see who's checking them out . . . they lack true confidence. Some, not all. Just an observation.
 
Quadsweep's Sister said:
I would wonder why in my red karma message you told me to go back to C&C, and who says I am a stupid cunt? I can't recall anyone having said that, did someone mention to you that I was? Who are "they"?

Do you feel I should go back to C&C because I know nothing about powerlifting? I wonder....If you feel this is true and that I am a stupid cunt - tell me why.

I disapproved of your post because (it appears to me) you like to start trouble with people you tend not to agree with. Forums are for learning and everyone has something to contribute. When you attack others or insult them, there is no motivation for them to return - wouldn't you say this is true? I'm all ears if you feel I don't belong in the PL or lifting forums, and an explanation why. Man up.

Actually, I wasn't starting trouble. I said I didn't like the quote. It appears to me that you need to shut your mouth.

Forums are for debating as well. Forums can be for a lot of things.

If I insult someone and they don't want to return, tough fucking shit. I'm not going to coddle people. That happens enough already. It makes me sick. If someone can't deal with a little toughness, too bad. They don't have to read my fucking posts. Neither do you.

Also, forums have a private message system to take care of situations like this. I could have just called you a cunt here if you wanted, but I figured I wouldn't bother.
 
Day-um. You blasted him for being his normal crotchety self? I think its pretty well understood that you get AI's opinions whether you like 'em or not. And he's free to express them. He just said he didn't like the quote. That's fair and up for debate isn't it? Geesh. I didn't know we had to censor our thoughts on here . . .
 
Protobuilder said:
Agreed. Learning to succeed in one area can help in others. No question. And mental toughness and determination that you learn in weights can help in other areas.

That said though, I find that bodybuilding (note I didn't say weight training) can have a negative effect on a lot of lifters. They can become very self-absorbed and I think their confidence actually takes a hit b/c they're constantly critiquing themselves, comparing themselves to others, looking at themselves in the mirror. Can be very unhealthy. And I think that's why some of them need to walk around w/ their arms sticking out, kind of swaggering to see who's checking them out . . . they lack true confidence. Some, not all. Just an observation.
Agreed. That is why this statement by Bob Hoffman applies more to strength athletes than bodybuilders. IMO.
 
Protobuilder said:
Agreed. Learning to succeed in one area can help in others. No question. And mental toughness and determination that you learn in weights can help in other areas.

That said though, I find that bodybuilding (note I didn't say weight training) can have a negative effect on a lot of lifters. They can become very self-absorbed and I think their confidence actually takes a hit b/c they're constantly critiquing themselves, comparing themselves to others, looking at themselves in the mirror. Can be very unhealthy. And I think that's why some of them need to walk around w/ their arms sticking out, kind of swaggering to see who's checking them out . . . they lack true confidence. Some, not all. Just an observation.


couldn't agree more. i know this pro bodybuilder lady who is so absorbed w/herself. everything is a contest to her. i'll walk by, and she'll say something like "you look huge today. But my arms are still bigger." yeah, it might have been funny the first time. but she says it over and over again. so just to amuse myself, I'll throw my arm up, flex it real quick, and she'll say something like "that's not fair. My ass is still nicer than yours." its like she is always looking for reassurance that she's big. yeah, shes big alright. Her gut that is from the Gh.
Then there is this guy that comes to the gym, every now and then, to get help w/his poses from the gym owner. (the gym owner is a former Mr. Oregon winner.) the guy is about 5'6" and jacked from his Gh/test cycle. But to be honest, I'm bigger than the guy, and I'm a powerlifter. But still, he comes in, stands there doing his poses in the mirror with the gym owner, critiquing how he looks. then you hear him say something like "I just got done going through my poses for the last 2 hours, so I'm kind of cramped up right now. Plus I'm carb. depleted..."
why would anybody want to live a life like that? it really is just as bad as someone who is annorexic. i couldn't imagine looking at myself under a microscope every day, and think to myself, "man, i really would love to have a big mac right now, but if I do, i'm gonna get fat." or even worse, looking at everybody that walks by, analizing how they look, and then worry myself to death that they are bigger than me.
the owner of the gym has offered to help me with a contest dieting. but refuse to do it, because I dont' want to live that life style. its bad enough that I'm a little OCD about strength. but to be that way about how I look? fuck that shit. I got better things to worry about, like deadlifting 600lbs!
 
Illuminati said:
couldn't agree more. i know this pro bodybuilder lady who is so absorbed w/herself. everything is a contest to her. i'll walk by, and she'll say something like "you look huge today. But my arms are still bigger." yeah, it might have been funny the first time. but she says it over and over again. so just to amuse myself, I'll throw my arm up, flex it real quick, and she'll say something like "that's not fair. My ass is still nicer than yours." its like she is always looking for reassurance that she's big. yeah, shes big alright. Her gut that is from the Gh.
Then there is this guy that comes to the gym, every now and then, to get help w/his poses from the gym owner. (the gym owner is a former Mr. Oregon winner.) the guy is about 5'6" and jacked from his Gh/test cycle. But to be honest, I'm bigger than the guy, and I'm a powerlifter. But still, he comes in, stands there doing his poses in the mirror with the gym owner, critiquing how he looks. then you hear him say something like "I just got done going through my poses for the last 2 hours, so I'm kind of cramped up right now. Plus I'm carb. depleted..."
why would anybody want to live a life like that? it really is just as bad as someone who is annorexic. i couldn't imagine looking at myself under a microscope every day, and think to myself, "man, i really would love to have a big mac right now, but if I do, i'm gonna get fat." or even worse, looking at everybody that walks by, analizing how they look, and then worry myself to death that they are bigger than me.
the owner of the gym has offered to help me with a contest dieting. but refuse to do it, because I dont' want to live that life style. its bad enough that I'm a little OCD about strength. but to be that way about how I look? fuck that shit. I got better things to worry about, like deadlifting 600lbs!
so true, although I do care about how I look a little bit. Not my main motivation though.
 
Protobuilder said:
Day-um. You blasted him for being his normal crotchety self? I think its pretty well understood that you get AI's opinions whether you like 'em or not. And he's free to express them. He just said he didn't like the quote. That's fair and up for debate isn't it? Geesh. I didn't know we had to censor our thoughts on here . . .

I never said anything at all about censoring of thoughts or posts. He or anyone else can be as crochety as they want to be. If anything is up for debate, then anything is up for disapproval. The quote whether you enjoy it or not was just put up by someone because they thought others would get (something) out of it; good, bad or indifferent. The first reply back is it makes you gag and you can't read that shit. Hey, whatever you say - its just somewhat of a downer for the person who thought well of it and took the time to post it up.

I don't censor my thoughts anywhere on here, but in turn I never tell people to shut up, that they are a cunt or asshole, that their posts they took the time to put up make me gag... I'm not always warm and fuzzy, just not into making people feel like crap I supposse. That's where I'm coming from with this.

We've all probably come across this at one time or another and maybe recently here; but in the context of this thread I'll post it. It provides another look at strength, not so much from our emotional perspective but from the iron itself and the lessons it teaches those who lift.

IRON, from Details Magazine
By Henry Rollins

Posted on NaturalStrength.com on May 21, 2001

I believe that the definition of definition is reinvention. To not be like your parents. To not be like your friends. To be yourself.
Completely.

When I was young I had no sense of myself. All I was, was a product of all the fear and humiliation I suffered. Fear of my parents. The humiliation of teachers calling me "garbage can" and telling me I'd be mowing lawns for a living. And the very real terror of my fellow students. I was threatened and beaten up for the color of my skin and my size. I was skinny and clumsy, and when others would tease me I didn't run home crying, wondering why. I knew all too well. I was there to be antagonized. In sports I was laughed at. A spaz. I was pretty good at boxing but only because the rage that filled my every waking moment made me wild and unpredictable. I fought with some strange fury. The other boys thought I was crazy.

I hated myself all the time. As stupid at it seems now, I wanted to talk like them, dress like them, carry myself with the ease of knowing that I wasn't going to get pounded in the hallway between classes. Years passed and I learned to keep it all inside. I only talked to a few boys in my grade. Other losers. Some of them are to this day the greatest people I have ever known. Hang out with a guy who has had his head flushed down a toilet a few times, treat him with respect, and you'll find a faithful friend forever. But even with friends, school sucked. Teachers gave me hard time. I didn't think much of them either.

Then came Mr. Pepperman, my advisor. He was a powerfully built Vietnam veteran, and he was scary. No one ever talked out of turn in his class.Once one kid did and Mr. P. lifted him off the ground and pinned him to the blackboard. Mr. P. could see that I was in bad shape, and one Friday in October he asked me if I had ever worked out with weights. I told him no. He told me that I was going to take some of the money that I had saved and buy a hundred-pound set of weights at Sears. As I left his office, I started to think of things I would say to him on Monday when he asked about the weights that I was not going to buy. Still, it made me feel special. My father never really got that close to caring. On Saturday I bought the weights, but I couldn't even drag them to my mom's car. An attendant laughed at me as he put them on a dolly.

Monday came and I was called into Mr. P.'s office after school. He said that he was going to show me how to work out. He was going to put me on a program and start hitting me in the solar plexus in the hallway when I wasn't looking. When I could take the punch we would know that we were getting somewhere. At no time was I to look at myself in the mirror or tell anyone at school what I was doing.
In the gym he showed me ten basic exercises. I paid more attention than I ever did in any of my classes. I didn't want to blow it. I went home that night and started right in.

Weeks passed, and every once in a while Mr. P. would give me a shot and drop me in the hallway, sending my books flying. The other students didn't know what to think. More weeks passed, and I was steadily adding new weights to the bar. I could sense the power inside my body growing. I could feel it.

Right before Christmas break I was walking to class, and from out of nowhere Mr. Pepperman appeared and gave me a shot in the chest. I laughed and kept going. He said I could look at myself now. I got home and ran to the bathroom and pulled off my shirt. I saw a body, not just the shell that housed my stomach and my heart. My biceps bulged. My chest had definition. I felt strong. It was the first time I can remember having a sense of myself. I had done something and no one could ever take it away. You couldn't say shit to me.

It took me years to fully appreciate the value of the lessons I have learned from the Iron. I used to think that it was my adversary, that I was trying to lift that which does not want to be lifted. I was wrong. When the Iron doesn't want to come off the mat, it's the kindest thing it can do for you. If it flew up and went through the ceiling, it wouldn't teach you anything. That's the way the Iron talks to you. It tells you that the material you work with is that which you will come to resemble. That which you work against will always work against you.

It wasn't until my late twenties that I learned that by working out I had given myself a great gift. I learned that nothing good comes without work and a certain amount of pain. When I finish a set that leaves me shaking, I know more about myself. When something gets bad, I know it can't be as bad as that workout.

I used to fight the pain, but recently this became clear to me: pain is not my enemy; it is my call to greatness. But when dealing with the Iron, one must be careful to interpret the pain correctly. Most injuries involving the Iron come from ego. I once spent a few weeks lifting weight that my body wasn't ready for and spent a few months not picking up anything heavier than a fork. Try to lift what you're not prepared to and the Iron will teach you a little lesson in restraint and self-control.

I have never met a truly strong person who didn't have self-respect. I think a lot of inwardly and outwardly directed contempt passes itself off as self-respect: the idea of raising yourself by stepping on someone's shoulders instead of doing it yourself. When I see guys working out for cosmetic reasons, I see vanity exposing them in the worst way, as cartoon characters, billboards for imbalance and insecurity. Strength reveals itself through character. It is the difference between bouncers who get off strong-arming people and Mr.Pepperman.

Muscle mass does not always equal strength. Strength is kindness and sensitivity. Strength is understanding that your power is both physical and emotional. That it comes from the body and the mind. And the heart.

Yukio Mishima said that he could not entertain the idea of romance if he was not strong. Romance is such a strong and overwhelming passion, a weakened body cannot sustain it for long. I have some of my most romantic thoughts when I am with the Iron. Once I was in love with a woman. I thought about her the most when the pain from a workout was racing through my body.

Everything in me wanted her. So much so that sex was only a fraction of my total desire. It was the single most intense love I have ever felt, but she lived far away and I didn't see her very often. Working out was a healthy way of dealing with the loneliness. To this day, when I work out I usually listen to ballads.

I prefer to work out alone. It enables me to concentrate on the lessons that the Iron has for me. Learning about what you're made of is always time well spent, and I have found no better teacher. The Iron had taught me how to live. Life is capable of driving you out of your mind. The way it all comes down these days, it's some kind of miracle if you're not insane. People have become separated from their bodies. They are no longer whole.

I see them move from their offices to their cars and on to their suburban homes. They stress out constantly, they lose sleep, they eat badly. And they behave badly. Their egos run wild; they become motivated by that which will eventually give them a massive stroke. They need the Iron Mind.

Through the years, I have combined meditation, action, and the Iron into a single strength. I believe that when the body is strong, the mind thinks strong thoughts. Time spent away from the Iron makes my mind degenerate. I wallow in a thick depression. My body shuts down my mind.

The Iron is the best antidepressant I have ever found. There is no better way to fight weakness than with strength. Once the mind and body have been awakened to their true potential, it's impossible to turn back.

The Iron never lies to you. You can walk outside and listen to all kinds of talk, get told that you're a god or a total bastard. The Iron will always kick you the real deal. The Iron is the great reference point, the all-knowing perspective giver. Always there like a beacon in the pitch black. I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
 
HYOOGE difference between being concerned and obsessed with how you look. LoL Most, if not all, of us are concerned with how we look. But some people get into weights & bodybuilding and may even start w/ a decent self image, but can get trapped, like Narcissus, staring at themselves all the time and their self image can actually get worse. Just kind of weird how that works.
 
Illuminati said:
couldn't agree more. i know this pro bodybuilder lady who is so absorbed w/herself. everything is a contest to her. i'll walk by, and she'll say something like "you look huge today. But my arms are still bigger." yeah, it might have been funny the first time. but she says it over and over again. so just to amuse myself, I'll throw my arm up, flex it real quick, and she'll say something like "that's not fair. My ass is still nicer than yours." its like she is always looking for reassurance that she's big. yeah, shes big alright. Her gut that is from the Gh.
Then there is this guy that comes to the gym, every now and then, to get help w/his poses from the gym owner. (the gym owner is a former Mr. Oregon winner.) the guy is about 5'6" and jacked from his Gh/test cycle. But to be honest, I'm bigger than the guy, and I'm a powerlifter. But still, he comes in, stands there doing his poses in the mirror with the gym owner, critiquing how he looks. then you hear him say something like "I just got done going through my poses for the last 2 hours, so I'm kind of cramped up right now. Plus I'm carb. depleted..."
why would anybody want to live a life like that? it really is just as bad as someone who is annorexic. i couldn't imagine looking at myself under a microscope every day, and think to myself, "man, i really would love to have a big mac right now, but if I do, i'm gonna get fat." or even worse, looking at everybody that walks by, analizing how they look, and then worry myself to death that they are bigger than me.
the owner of the gym has offered to help me with a contest dieting. but refuse to do it, because I dont' want to live that life style. its bad enough that I'm a little OCD about strength. but to be that way about how I look? fuck that shit. I got better things to worry about, like deadlifting 600lbs!
actually this is a condition similar to anorexia, called muscle dysmorphia, commonly known as bigorexia. there've been alot of posts on the AAS board about this... it usually affects bodybuilders (competitive and rec).
 
quadsweeps sister said:
I never said anything at all about censoring of thoughts or posts. He or anyone else can be as crochety as they want to be. If anything is up for debate, then anything is up for disapproval. The quote whether you enjoy it or not was just put up by someone because they thought others would get (something) out of it; good, bad or indifferent. The first reply back is it makes you gag and you can't read that shit. Hey, whatever you say - its just somewhat of a downer for the person who thought well of it and took the time to post it up.

I don't censor my thoughts anywhere on here, but in turn I never tell people to shut up, that they are a cunt or asshole, that their posts they took the time to put up make me gag... I'm not always warm and fuzzy, just not into making people feel like crap I supposse. That's where I'm coming from with this.

I know better than to get involved in 'net drama, LoL, but this just really irks me. You bomb AI b/c his post wasn't supportive? LoL It's a CONVERSATION. People AREN'T going to agree w/ everything you say. He didn't attack the poster. He didn't say "You're an idiot for posting that!" He just said the quote from Hoffman didn't really do anything for him. Sure, he said up front it made him gag, but that's clearly hyperbole. And that's just how he expresses himself. So what? He then went on to give a mature response that voiced his opinion. He didn't like it. So what? Ten other people will say they liked it. And again, so what? That's what you do here. Frankly, I don't see you posting in this forum very often so I think it's a bit rude to show up and slam a guy b/c you deem his post "somewhat of a downer." I mean, as long as you don't attack the person involved--which AI didn't--you should be able to voice your opinion using your own individual tone & demeanor. That's what makes this place interesting and fun. I hate to think there's people like you hovering around looking to throw bombs at people who aren't politically correct and who don't use your approved language & tone.
 
kingkrs said:
so true, although I do care about how I look a little bit. Not my main motivation though.

anybody that works out, even if strength is the name of their game, cares to some extent about how they look.
 
Protobuilder said:
I know better than to get involved in 'net drama, LoL, but this just really irks me. You bomb AI b/c his post wasn't supportive? LoL It's a CONVERSATION. People AREN'T going to agree w/ everything you say. He didn't attack the poster. He didn't say "You're an idiot for posting that!" He just said the quote from Hoffman didn't really do anything for him. Sure, he said up front it made him gag, but that's clearly hyperbole. And that's just how he expresses himself. So what? He then went on to give a mature response that voiced his opinion. He didn't like it. So what? Ten other people will say they liked it. And again, so what? That's what you do here. Frankly, I don't see you posting in this forum very often so I think it's a bit rude to show up and slam a guy b/c you deem his post "somewhat of a downer." I mean, as long as you don't attack the person involved--which AI didn't--you should be able to voice your opinion using your own individual tone & demeanor. That's what makes this place interesting and fun. I hate to think there's people like you hovering around looking to throw bombs at people who aren't politically correct and who don't use your approved language & tone.
umm... it doesn't look like she bombed him... that was "quadsweep" who bombed him.
 
I'm just eating popcorn and enjoying the internet drama. Well, not popcorn but pasta. Man, I'm so sick of pasta right now. Ok, on with the show.
 
Quadsweep's Sister said:
I would wonder why in my red karma message you told me to go back to C&C, and who says I am a stupid cunt? I can't recall anyone having said that, did someone mention to you that I was? Who are "they"?

Do you feel I should go back to C&C because I know nothing about powerlifting? I wonder....If you feel this is true and that I am a stupid cunt - tell me why.

I disapproved of your post because (it appears to me) you like to start trouble with people you tend not to agree with. Forums are for learning and everyone has something to contribute. When you attack others or insult them, there is no motivation for them to return - wouldn't you say this is true? I'm all ears if you feel I don't belong in the PL or lifting forums, and an explanation why. Man up.

I agree with everything you said, basically, barring te part in red....some people just bring nothing to the table worth eating..
 
Protobuilder said:
I take it all back. I'd bomb AI if I knew how. Just on principle. LoL

j/k

Corniness in 3...

2...

1...

That's 'cause I am da bomb! OHHH SNAP!
 
Protobuilder said:
What precisely is an "invasio" anyway? LoL

It's a slick way of saying invasion. Maybe in another language or something. If you say it with a certain emphasis it sounds bad ass.

Also, my 'n' key got stolen by gnomes some time back. After a grueling fight, I won it back. Ahh, the greatness of war.
 
kingkrs said:

"A man who doesn't exercise will have a weak body, a sluggish mind, weak will and will lack energy. He can hardly hope to succeed in the the times that we are experiencing and can expect to continue to an uncertain time in the future. And the man that lives right and exercises right not only obtains tremendously powerful muscles that obey his every command but his internal organs perform their duties perfectly. He also obtains a thorough mastery of his will and an easy and contented mind.

This frequent employment of one's will power makes it possible to control the body and to easily perform feats that otherwise would be difficult or impossible. This type of man becomes independent and self-reliant. He will never be a coward and when real danger threatens, he is the one that others look to and depend upon.

When a man is strong he has a real mastery over himself. This strength breeds energy and courage, helps to meet with success the more difficult problems and tasks of life. Results in true contentment and enjoyment of living. Who would want to be inactive and weak when proper physical training benefits so greatly?"


-Bob Hoffman-


I had gotten this off another site and thought you all might agree and relate to this as I did.

Keep training and stay motivated!


i work my ass of 5 days aweek in the gym, eat all day, never go out, and rest as much as possible and probably have the weakest will of anyone you will ever meet.
 
Protobuilder said:
ROFL!! At least you're honest.

AI -- stealing keys is a federal offense.

Tell that to the fucking gnomes. :kaioken: Greedy bastards.

Step One: Steal Underpants

Step Two: ...

Step Three: Profit
 
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