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Just for looks really. Why look shitty, or wimpy or average. When you can fucking stick out of the average crowd and have all eyes on you because you look damn good!
savage1026
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My guess is that at least 25% of users suffered from some type of inferiority complex at one time in their life. I suppose that is as good of a reason as any.
i do it for myself. and no one else. if i were the only person in the entire world, i would still juice. i enjoy how i feel and how i look, i enjoy being able to do more at the gym than how i normally would if i never had chosed to juice. i do not do this to look good for girls, i do not do this to be envied by guys. its all for me. yeah im selfish like that.
Dieselgoku23
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I first decided to use it because I was not growing anymore naturally!!! now I do to reach personal goals, I can care less what other people think!!!!
To be above average. For the feeling it gives me. Because I want to be healthy until 100. Because I love the attention from the women... and girls of course. Because when it comes summer time and I am playing tennis, basketball, or biking without a shirt, it makes other look bad ;-)
Whiskey
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flyin j
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I lifted for 4 years naturally and made great gains in size and strength, gains that I was really proud of, but I realized that I still didnt have that "look" that I wanted so after alot of research I realized that if used properly it isnt all that bad so then I decided to take it to the next level and havent really regreted it that much.
"Life is ours we live it our way"
METALLICA
'Nothing else matters'
"Life is ours we live it our way"
METALLICA
'Nothing else matters'
dsh89
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The human body only has so much potential. And mine was zero. LOL. I found it so hard to keep off fat, even though I could allways gain muscle well. I am not to the point I want to be, hell I may never get there, but why not use something that helps me to come closer than I was before? Plus I wanna get freaky HUGE!
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Mr_MAX
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savage1026 said:
i have to say i lean tward this idea...
most are out to prove themselves in a since...
I love the benefits .. the respect and looking sexy as fuck...
the thought of being super human..
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flowerz
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Steroid use=Total turn off
If you really want something interesting, talk to people who used to use anabolics (not just a couple cycles) but don't anymore for whatever reason. It's always interesting to see how someone else (or a population) who began with the same goals and enjoyed the same things changed through time and concluded. For those who are introspective, it can insightful and quite often enables one to view his own feelings and desires in a more transparent manner since there is to a large extent a range of commonality.
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flowerz
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Madcow2 said:
Excellent advice.
blut wump
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This was posted by FreakMonster back in December. I think it's worth a cut and paste for anyone who didn't read it back then...
Great Article: This is why we do it!!!
Guest Atomic Dog
Merry Christmas, Bob
by Chris Shugart
Note: Since most of our readers are probably busy around this time of year, this issue and the next will be a little shorter than usual. Don't worry, though, there's still plenty of info here to keep you busy for a few hours.
"So, what are you doing for a living these days?" Bob asked me. We're sitting on the couch at one of those tedious holiday get-togethers, you know, the ones where you're supposed to be nice to family members you never see except during major holidays and funerals. I think Bob is my wife's brother-in-law's second cousin or something.
"I'm the assistant editor and a writer for Testosterone magazine," I say. Bob looks at me with a blank expression on his face, as if I'd just told him I sell handmade testicle warmers beside the freeway and was looking to open franchises across the nation.
"It's a bodybuilding magazine," I say.
Blank expression. Deer caught in the headlights. Ronnie Coleman doing trigonometry.
"Oh," Bob finally says, "I heard you were, like, one of those bodybuilder guys or something. So, what's that like, you know, working out every day and stuff? I just don't have time to lift weights all day, but I
have been meaning to get rid of this beer belly." He takes another sip of beer. "What do you suggest?" Sip.
At first I was a little offended. I wanted to grab him up and say, "You can't tell I'm a bodybuilder?! Look at my ***! Now, if that's not a nice round squat-built piece of sirloin, I don't know what is! You think that comes naturally? I can crack walnuts with this puppy! Wanna see? Huh, punk? Do ya? Do ya?"
Then I realize this just might cause a scene and could cost me several Christmas presents. I was planning on returning any presents I got and using the money to buy a power rack, so I didn't want to jeopardize this gift getting opportunity. I also realized that old Bob probably had a certain preconceived image of a
bodybuilder and I just didn't fit that image. I'm not gorilla huge; I weigh about 205 at 5'11" right now. (When I first started lifting I was a pudgy 159, so that's not too shabby.) Also, I wasn't wearing clown pants, a fluorescent string tank top, a hanky on my head and one of those little fanny packs. And isn't that what real bodybuilders are supposed to wear?
Bob continued to sit there drinking his Natural Light, smoking a cigarette and waiting for an answer, oblivious to the fact that he'd come this close to seeing some serious walnut- crunching *** power. I tried to figure out how I could explain to the average guy what the typical T-Man does and why he does it. How could I get him to understand what it is we do, how we feel, how we live? So I took a deep breath and told him something like this:
"Well, Bob, I guess you could use the term bodybuilder if you really need a label for what it is we do. Most of us actually don't stand on stage and compete, though. We lift weights and manipulate our diets so that we'll look good naked. Sure, it's healthy too, and we'll probably live a longer and more productive life than the average guy, but mostly it's about the naked thing. Truthfully, it goes beyond even that.
"Let's be honest here. We do it because of people like you, Bob. We look at you sitting there with your gut hanging over your belt and we watch you grunt and groan just getting out of a chair. Guys like you are our inspiration, Bob. You're better than Anthony Robbins, Bill Phillips, Deepak Chopra, and Zig **ing Ziglar all wrapped up into one. We love it when guys like you talk about not having time to exercise. Every time we see you munching on a bag of potato chips, you inspire us. You're my shot in the arm, Bob, my living and breathing wake-up call, my own personal success coach.
"You want to know what it is we do? We overcome. We're too busy to train, too, but we overcome. We're too busy to prepare healthy meals and eat them five or six times a day, but we overcome. We can't always afford supplements, our genetics aren't perfect, and we don't always feel like going to the gym. Some of us used to be just like you, Bob, but guess what? We've overcome.
"We like to watch 'normal' people like you tell us about how they can't get in shape. We smile and nod sympathetically like we feel your pain, but actually, we're thinking that you're a pathetic piece of that needs to grow a spine and join a gym. You smile sheepishly and say that you just can't stay motivated and just can't stand that feeling of being sore. (For some reason you think that admitting your weaknesses somehow justifies them.) We listen to you bitch and moan. We watch you look for the easy way out. Because of people like you, Bob, we never miss a workout.
"You ask us for advice about diet and training and usually we politely offer some guidance, but deep inside we know you won't take our advice. You know that too. We smile and say, 'Hope that helps. Good luck,' but actually we're thinking, 'Boy, it would suck to be you.' We know that 99% of people won't listen to us. Once they hear that it takes hard work, sacrifice and discipline, they stop listening and tune us out.
"We know they wanted us to say that building a great body is easy, but it just isn't. This did not take five minutes a day on a TorsoTrack. We did not get this way in 12 short weeks using a Bowflex and the Suzanne Somers' 'Get Skinny' diet. A good body does not cost five easy payments of $39.95.
"We like it that while you're eating a candy bar and drinking Mountain Dew, we're sucking down a protein shake. You see, that makes it taste even better to us. While you're asleep we're either getting up early or staying up late, hitting the iron, pushing ourselves, learning, succeeding and failing and rising above the norm with every rep. Can you feel that, Bob? Can you relate? No? Good. This wouldn't be half as fun if you could.
"We do it because we absolutely and totally get off on it. We do it because people like you, Bob, either can't or won't. We do it because what we do in the gym transfers over into the rest of our lives and changes us, physically, mentally, maybe even spiritually. We do it because it beats watching fishing and golf on TV. By the way, do you know what it's like to turn the head of a beautiful woman because of the way you're built? It feels good, Bob. Damned good.
"When we're in the gym, we're in this indescribable euphoria zone. It's a feeling of being on, of being completely alive and aware. If you haven't been there, then it's like trying to describe color to a person who's been blind since birth. Within this haze of pleasure and pain, there's knowledge and power, self-discipline and self-reliance. If you do it long enough, Bob, there's even enlightenment. Sometimes, the answers to questions you didn't even know you had are sitting there on those rubber mats, wrapped up in a neat package of iron plates and bars.
"Want to lose that beer belly, Bob? I have a nutty idea. Put down the **ing beer. I'll tell you what, Bob. Christmas morning I'm getting up real early and hitting the iron. I want to watch my daughter open her presents and spend the whole day with her, so this is the only time I have to train. The gym will be closed, so I'm going out in my garage to workout. You be at my house at six in the morning, okay? I'll be glad to help you get started on a weight training program. It'll be colder than Hillary Clinton's coochie in there, so dress warm.
"But let me tell you something, Bob. If you don't show up, don't bother asking me again. And don't you ever sit there and let me hear you bitch about your beer belly again. This is your chance, your big opportunity to break out of that rut. If you don't show up, Bob, you've learned a very important lesson about yourself, haven't you? You won't like that lesson.
"You won't like that feeling in the pit of your stomach either or that taste in your mouth. It will taste worse than defeat, Bob. Defeat tastes pretty goddamned nasty, but what you'll be experiencing will be much worse. It will be the knowledge that you're weak, mentally and physically. What's worse is that you'll have accepted that feeling. The feeling will always be with you. In the happiest moments of your life, it'll be there, lying under the surface like a malignant tumor. Ignore it at your own peril, Bob.
"Don't look at me like that either. This just may be the best Christmas present you'll get this year. Next Christmas, Bob, when I see you again, I'm going to be a little bigger, a little stronger, and a little leaner. What will you be? Will you still be making excuses? This is a gift, Bob, from me to you. I'm giving you the chance to look fate in those pretty eyes of hers and say, 'Step off, bitch. This is my party and you're not invited.' What do you say, Bob? Monday, Christmas morning, 6am, my house. The ball's in your court."
Okay, so maybe that's not the exact words I used with Bob, but you get the picture. Will Bob show up Monday? I don't know, but I kind of doubt it. In fact, Bob will probably take me off his Christmas card list. He probably thinks I've got "too much Testosterone," like that's a bad thing. I think Bob is just stuck in a rut, and as the saying goes, the only difference between a rut and a grave is depth.
Great Article: This is why we do it!!!
Guest Atomic Dog
Merry Christmas, Bob
by Chris Shugart
Note: Since most of our readers are probably busy around this time of year, this issue and the next will be a little shorter than usual. Don't worry, though, there's still plenty of info here to keep you busy for a few hours.
"So, what are you doing for a living these days?" Bob asked me. We're sitting on the couch at one of those tedious holiday get-togethers, you know, the ones where you're supposed to be nice to family members you never see except during major holidays and funerals. I think Bob is my wife's brother-in-law's second cousin or something.
"I'm the assistant editor and a writer for Testosterone magazine," I say. Bob looks at me with a blank expression on his face, as if I'd just told him I sell handmade testicle warmers beside the freeway and was looking to open franchises across the nation.
"It's a bodybuilding magazine," I say.
Blank expression. Deer caught in the headlights. Ronnie Coleman doing trigonometry.
"Oh," Bob finally says, "I heard you were, like, one of those bodybuilder guys or something. So, what's that like, you know, working out every day and stuff? I just don't have time to lift weights all day, but I
have been meaning to get rid of this beer belly." He takes another sip of beer. "What do you suggest?" Sip.
At first I was a little offended. I wanted to grab him up and say, "You can't tell I'm a bodybuilder?! Look at my ***! Now, if that's not a nice round squat-built piece of sirloin, I don't know what is! You think that comes naturally? I can crack walnuts with this puppy! Wanna see? Huh, punk? Do ya? Do ya?"
Then I realize this just might cause a scene and could cost me several Christmas presents. I was planning on returning any presents I got and using the money to buy a power rack, so I didn't want to jeopardize this gift getting opportunity. I also realized that old Bob probably had a certain preconceived image of a
bodybuilder and I just didn't fit that image. I'm not gorilla huge; I weigh about 205 at 5'11" right now. (When I first started lifting I was a pudgy 159, so that's not too shabby.) Also, I wasn't wearing clown pants, a fluorescent string tank top, a hanky on my head and one of those little fanny packs. And isn't that what real bodybuilders are supposed to wear?
Bob continued to sit there drinking his Natural Light, smoking a cigarette and waiting for an answer, oblivious to the fact that he'd come this close to seeing some serious walnut- crunching *** power. I tried to figure out how I could explain to the average guy what the typical T-Man does and why he does it. How could I get him to understand what it is we do, how we feel, how we live? So I took a deep breath and told him something like this:
"Well, Bob, I guess you could use the term bodybuilder if you really need a label for what it is we do. Most of us actually don't stand on stage and compete, though. We lift weights and manipulate our diets so that we'll look good naked. Sure, it's healthy too, and we'll probably live a longer and more productive life than the average guy, but mostly it's about the naked thing. Truthfully, it goes beyond even that.
"Let's be honest here. We do it because of people like you, Bob. We look at you sitting there with your gut hanging over your belt and we watch you grunt and groan just getting out of a chair. Guys like you are our inspiration, Bob. You're better than Anthony Robbins, Bill Phillips, Deepak Chopra, and Zig **ing Ziglar all wrapped up into one. We love it when guys like you talk about not having time to exercise. Every time we see you munching on a bag of potato chips, you inspire us. You're my shot in the arm, Bob, my living and breathing wake-up call, my own personal success coach.
"You want to know what it is we do? We overcome. We're too busy to train, too, but we overcome. We're too busy to prepare healthy meals and eat them five or six times a day, but we overcome. We can't always afford supplements, our genetics aren't perfect, and we don't always feel like going to the gym. Some of us used to be just like you, Bob, but guess what? We've overcome.
"We like to watch 'normal' people like you tell us about how they can't get in shape. We smile and nod sympathetically like we feel your pain, but actually, we're thinking that you're a pathetic piece of that needs to grow a spine and join a gym. You smile sheepishly and say that you just can't stay motivated and just can't stand that feeling of being sore. (For some reason you think that admitting your weaknesses somehow justifies them.) We listen to you bitch and moan. We watch you look for the easy way out. Because of people like you, Bob, we never miss a workout.
"You ask us for advice about diet and training and usually we politely offer some guidance, but deep inside we know you won't take our advice. You know that too. We smile and say, 'Hope that helps. Good luck,' but actually we're thinking, 'Boy, it would suck to be you.' We know that 99% of people won't listen to us. Once they hear that it takes hard work, sacrifice and discipline, they stop listening and tune us out.
"We know they wanted us to say that building a great body is easy, but it just isn't. This did not take five minutes a day on a TorsoTrack. We did not get this way in 12 short weeks using a Bowflex and the Suzanne Somers' 'Get Skinny' diet. A good body does not cost five easy payments of $39.95.
"We like it that while you're eating a candy bar and drinking Mountain Dew, we're sucking down a protein shake. You see, that makes it taste even better to us. While you're asleep we're either getting up early or staying up late, hitting the iron, pushing ourselves, learning, succeeding and failing and rising above the norm with every rep. Can you feel that, Bob? Can you relate? No? Good. This wouldn't be half as fun if you could.
"We do it because we absolutely and totally get off on it. We do it because people like you, Bob, either can't or won't. We do it because what we do in the gym transfers over into the rest of our lives and changes us, physically, mentally, maybe even spiritually. We do it because it beats watching fishing and golf on TV. By the way, do you know what it's like to turn the head of a beautiful woman because of the way you're built? It feels good, Bob. Damned good.
"When we're in the gym, we're in this indescribable euphoria zone. It's a feeling of being on, of being completely alive and aware. If you haven't been there, then it's like trying to describe color to a person who's been blind since birth. Within this haze of pleasure and pain, there's knowledge and power, self-discipline and self-reliance. If you do it long enough, Bob, there's even enlightenment. Sometimes, the answers to questions you didn't even know you had are sitting there on those rubber mats, wrapped up in a neat package of iron plates and bars.
"Want to lose that beer belly, Bob? I have a nutty idea. Put down the **ing beer. I'll tell you what, Bob. Christmas morning I'm getting up real early and hitting the iron. I want to watch my daughter open her presents and spend the whole day with her, so this is the only time I have to train. The gym will be closed, so I'm going out in my garage to workout. You be at my house at six in the morning, okay? I'll be glad to help you get started on a weight training program. It'll be colder than Hillary Clinton's coochie in there, so dress warm.
"But let me tell you something, Bob. If you don't show up, don't bother asking me again. And don't you ever sit there and let me hear you bitch about your beer belly again. This is your chance, your big opportunity to break out of that rut. If you don't show up, Bob, you've learned a very important lesson about yourself, haven't you? You won't like that lesson.
"You won't like that feeling in the pit of your stomach either or that taste in your mouth. It will taste worse than defeat, Bob. Defeat tastes pretty goddamned nasty, but what you'll be experiencing will be much worse. It will be the knowledge that you're weak, mentally and physically. What's worse is that you'll have accepted that feeling. The feeling will always be with you. In the happiest moments of your life, it'll be there, lying under the surface like a malignant tumor. Ignore it at your own peril, Bob.
"Don't look at me like that either. This just may be the best Christmas present you'll get this year. Next Christmas, Bob, when I see you again, I'm going to be a little bigger, a little stronger, and a little leaner. What will you be? Will you still be making excuses? This is a gift, Bob, from me to you. I'm giving you the chance to look fate in those pretty eyes of hers and say, 'Step off, bitch. This is my party and you're not invited.' What do you say, Bob? Monday, Christmas morning, 6am, my house. The ball's in your court."
Okay, so maybe that's not the exact words I used with Bob, but you get the picture. Will Bob show up Monday? I don't know, but I kind of doubt it. In fact, Bob will probably take me off his Christmas card list. He probably thinks I've got "too much Testosterone," like that's a bad thing. I think Bob is just stuck in a rut, and as the saying goes, the only difference between a rut and a grave is depth.
van_wilder
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flowerz said:
LOL... why are you here then? ^^ GREAT POST!
Look, in all due respect ( kind of sort of ). But I think this thread should be closed. It is somewhat of a very stupid question. Why do we to this???? COME ON!!! GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK!!! WHY DO YOU THINK WE DO IT???!!!! FOR ONLY ONE FUCKING REASON......TO LOOK GREAT!!!!!!! THAT'S IT...NOTHING MORE....NOTHING LESS.
PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD! DUMB,DUMB,DUMB!!!!
PLEASE CLOSE THIS THREAD! DUMB,DUMB,DUMB!!!!
flyin j
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savage1026 said:
I actually quit working out all together for about 8 months and that is about 50% of why. I had been working out for a year and learned alot about it, and realized that people looked at "us" differently and had their stereotypes and opinions about people like "us", and im not talking about "juicers" in particular but big muscular guys all together I would hear alot of negative stereotypes and opinions about people who worked out all the time and didnt want that to be me at all because I wasnt like that I just liked the look,feeling and the challenge of it all so I decided to hang it up because I didnt want to be thrown in there also. Then about 5 months in I realized how miserable I was and disgusted that I let the public and other people make my desicions for me so I battled with the idea (and my ex gf) of coming back and 3 months later I was back and loved it and will never quit again (P.S. thank god for muscle memory
), and that is why I always leave this on my posts,"Life is ours we live it our way"
METALLICA
'Nothing else matters'
Not just because I love the song, I love and live by those lyrics because life is ours and we live it our way and fuck everybody else, it is as simple as that
majutsu said:
Thanks bro! That avatar is last years....so called cutting cycle. Very weak cutting cycle. That sig pic is this years Test and Slin cycle.
I was athletic but not muscular.
Then I had horrible accident that broke both my collar bones. I was in therapy for 8 months.
My chest and arm muscles atrophied from not using them for a long time.
I used to think that if you take AAS, your prostate would stick out of your ass like a third cheek.
Then I got involved in the case of a cop who was tested positive for AAS and he was taking Deca. That made me read about Deca and my eyes were opened.
I was frustrated with slow progress that I was making. I started my first cycle without any information on Deca only. I liked the results.
Then I stumbled on this board.
My target is not very ambitious. Just want to be above average.
I don't just want to look good. I also want the strength.
Then I had horrible accident that broke both my collar bones. I was in therapy for 8 months.
My chest and arm muscles atrophied from not using them for a long time.
I used to think that if you take AAS, your prostate would stick out of your ass like a third cheek.
Then I got involved in the case of a cop who was tested positive for AAS and he was taking Deca. That made me read about Deca and my eyes were opened.
I was frustrated with slow progress that I was making. I started my first cycle without any information on Deca only. I liked the results.
Then I stumbled on this board.
My target is not very ambitious. Just want to be above average.
I don't just want to look good. I also want the strength.
WannaBeBig72
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babes, babes and more babes
21gun
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Sorry to fuckin affend you Carth. I was just interested in knowing what motivates us to eat, sleep, and live this wonderful sport. Some do it for fun, some for chicks, and some just to see what potential the human body has. So, next time if you don't like a thread, don't participate in it. Enough said.
21gun said:
I did participate and then thought about it. And then I thought it was a stupid question. That's it. Because it is obvious why we do it. It is like asking us why we breath? Or why do we eat food? Anyways...you see how much Karma I got from saying what I said. I wasn't the only one that thought the same thing too. Just let it go. I do not want to fight with you over something like this. I'm sorry. I apologize. Really...I am. Please accept my apologies. That was rude of me.
21gun said:
No No. My fault and I apologize. You do not need to apologize to me. I'm sorry for what I said. That was rude on my part. And thanks for the compliments.
shamrock11
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LOL! Carth watch the "roid rage". Looking good by the way. When is your comp. against satch?
PitBullFootBall
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keeping up with the jones's - you look at the guys who knock you around in practice every afternoon and and get fed up and decide to level the playing feild.
shamrock11 said:
Your answer is right above you ^ and underneath this pic
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saveawhistle
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to get that edge....
greekhookup
New member
exactly!!!! when you workout you feel great, you dont have to big huge as hell and have everybody in the gym looking at you and talking about you, now-a-days its all about having a great body, even though being like ronnie colmen would be cool for a week or so
BOOEY said:
Have you seen Bonds before the juice? Fucking pathetic!!!! A total fucking wimp! No girl would ever look at him. Strongman!? Come on! Picture a strongman not being big! I'm sure they get girls that love big fucking huge guys.
Saint V said:
Dude. Fuck her! Ignore her. She is one of the many stupid, ignorant and uneducated morons out there! People fear what they do not know. In other words....STUPID BITCH! Just let it go!
dan140 said:Great Point. Being bigger than 99.9 percent of the population certainly helps the ego!
Plus, most chicks dig it, even if they initially won't admit it. And what can I say, I just love girls!
No doubt! My wife at first was like..." I don't like big guys blah blah blah" And then...." I don't like you so big blah blah blah ". But then when I lost shit loads of weight and went down to 160...OMFG!!!! Now it was...." I miss the big you " . You look better and tougher blah blah blah.
So....like you said...."most chicks dig it, even if they initially won't admit it!!!
BOOEY said:
Exactly my point. Girls " supposedly " want the skinny, ripped abs, pretty boy look. But want they get that and see that Mr. 140lbs cannot protect them from a fucking fly....they quickly change their minds. Just like my misses did. And now she admits she was FUCKING STUPID for wanting the Mr. ambercrombie. Now she has what is known as CARTH. And she can't get enough of the beast!
Carth said:Have you seen Bonds before the juice? Fucking pathetic!!!! A total fucking wimp! No girl would ever look at him. Strongman!? Come on! Picture a strongman not being big! I'm sure they get girls that love big fucking huge guys.
Some chicks dig buff guys and some seem to be more comfortable with the petite type. Don't be unrealistic though.Bonds juiced or not could get more woll than most toliet seats could ever dream of.
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