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why so many rotator cuff injuries on here?
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FatRat
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Here is a reference that I have to hand as an example, but there are some better resouirces out there, ill have a look:
http://familydoctor.org/handouts/265.html
http://familydoctor.org/handouts/265.html
overhead
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Part of it maybe that most people who hurt their shoulder and do not go to the doctor *assume* its a rotator injury. I did, suffered with it for a while and when I finally went to the doc it turned out to be a problem with my biceps tendon. I did manage to screw my rotator up about a year later. Physical Ther. I went to said that the reason people get injured in that area is a lack of proper support for the joint, meaning weak muscles around it and doing exercises that put the joint in an unnatural position like casualbb listed above.
Eatmorechicken
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Rotator cuff injuries are very common due to imbalanced overuse issues and risky exercises.
It's very common for people to do a lot of upper body pressing movements without also doing comparable amounts of pulling work in similar planes of movement. That sets up strength and flexibility imbalances between opposing muscles groups making one more injury prone. Also, the muscles performing the external rotation function just don't get much in the way of sufficient adaptive training through any of the typical exercises, other than the Olympic lifts, if you consider them typical. So if the Olympic lifts aren't ideal for your goals, you're pretty much forced to throw in some direct isolation movements for the external rotator function if you want to ensure avoiding injury due to imbalance issues.
Also, there are just some movements that are unnatural for most people's biomechanics and therefore associated with more injury risk. Before I injured my rotator cuff, the behind-the-neck press was my favorite movement, and I was using it frequently. I was also doing dumbell pullovers on occasion. After injuring my shoulder, I found out both of these exercises fall into the rotator injury prone risk group. Also in this group are upright rows, dips, behind-the-neck pulldowns, and arnold presses. Of course individual biomechanics varies and allows some people to use these movements effectively without issue, but as a general rule, these seem to be commonly accepted by sports therapists as involving greater risk for a lot of people.
Pay no attention to it, and you just may end up with a serious enough tear for expensive surgery and long rehab only to end up with sub-optimal shoulder functionality for the rest of your life after it's all said and done. Thankfully mine did not get that bad, but I've had a couple unfortunate acquaintences of whom theirs' did.
It's very common for people to do a lot of upper body pressing movements without also doing comparable amounts of pulling work in similar planes of movement. That sets up strength and flexibility imbalances between opposing muscles groups making one more injury prone. Also, the muscles performing the external rotation function just don't get much in the way of sufficient adaptive training through any of the typical exercises, other than the Olympic lifts, if you consider them typical. So if the Olympic lifts aren't ideal for your goals, you're pretty much forced to throw in some direct isolation movements for the external rotator function if you want to ensure avoiding injury due to imbalance issues.
Also, there are just some movements that are unnatural for most people's biomechanics and therefore associated with more injury risk. Before I injured my rotator cuff, the behind-the-neck press was my favorite movement, and I was using it frequently. I was also doing dumbell pullovers on occasion. After injuring my shoulder, I found out both of these exercises fall into the rotator injury prone risk group. Also in this group are upright rows, dips, behind-the-neck pulldowns, and arnold presses. Of course individual biomechanics varies and allows some people to use these movements effectively without issue, but as a general rule, these seem to be commonly accepted by sports therapists as involving greater risk for a lot of people.
Pay no attention to it, and you just may end up with a serious enough tear for expensive surgery and long rehab only to end up with sub-optimal shoulder functionality for the rest of your life after it's all said and done. Thankfully mine did not get that bad, but I've had a couple unfortunate acquaintences of whom theirs' did.
louden_swain
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because everyone and their mother is bench pressing. . . .the wrong way.
makedah
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I got my bum shoulder from months of low-weight/high rep OHPs and a summer of ringing up groceries. (Cashiers often wreck their rotators.)
I've rehabbed it. I protect it by doing rear delt work weekly and benching PL style. No behind the neck movements or upright rows for me. And I do OHPs with a short ROM.
I've rehabbed it. I protect it by doing rear delt work weekly and benching PL style. No behind the neck movements or upright rows for me. And I do OHPs with a short ROM.
PolishHammer1977
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kentucky said:are all of you guys major league pitchers
j/k
Is this something I should be wary about a weightlifter?
Do we have any major league players here??
I think that the most common issue has to be the lack of experience.
Understanding how the body works, the compound movements, your own personal weaknesses and that there is always a lesson to be learned.
Take training slow and steady. Learn and progress. Active recovery. Listen to your body.
Cuthbert
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Fast Twitch Fiber
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I've screwed up both of mine. My left was from baseball, th right was from dumbell bench presses. I let the dumbell sink too low while trying to get a good stretch at the bottom. Damn it hurt. That's been about 9 years ago. It hurt off and on for about 8 years but the past year has been pretty much constant pain.
houseofpain
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Bad form and sudden jerky movements to try and "cheat" the wieghts up instead of slow controlled movements are the biggest two reasons why I see guys screwing up their shoulders in the gym.
Fast Twitch Fiber
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I think it should be pointed out for newbies that you should do some rotator cuff isolation exercises at least once a week. Maybe you can avoid some of the problems us "old folks" are having. I sure wish I had done this from the beginning.
overhead
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I do not know what they are called, but most involve shoulder rotation with the elbow at a ninety degree angle. An example would be laying on your side with a dumbell in you hand. Arm against your side, rotating the dumbell from your stomach up until your arm is parallel with the floor.
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