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Why ORAL glutamine is a complete and utter waste of money
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Fonz said:
Hi
just saw this very interesting and informative thread,
I do feel that L-Glutamine has some benifits, but is it worth the money........NO
its too refined, almost exclusively synthetic, and thus does not offer protection against ph changes that go on throughout digestion, and it also does not offer other peptide fractions that are benificial to us.
Glutamine Peptides are another story......
The Glutamine Peptides that will be available soon have a almost complete amino acid profile, plus stable Glutamine.........thus they are available though the process of digestion through the GI tract
one obstacle is the taste......of Peptides. its mildley earthy.....not bad just natural.....so you got to mix them with a flavored drink.
for naturals and post cycle/ off cycle recovery its my opinion that they help a great deal
bigbabybodybuilder
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very nice. good posts
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Nutrition 2002 May;18(5):367-70 Related Articles, Links
Impact of oral L-glutamine on glutathione, glutamine, and glutamate blood levels in volunteers.
Valencia E, Marin A, Hardy G.
Pharmaceutical Nutrition Group, School of Biological and Molecular Sciences, Oxford Brookes University, Oxford, United [email protected]
OBJECTIVE: We investigated the effect of glutamine supplementation on plasma glutamine (Gln), glutamate (Glu), and whole-blood glutathione (GSH) concentrations in human volunteers. METHODS: Subjects first adapted to a standard diet with known intakes of protein, total GSH, cysteine, methionine, and total Glu (Glu values include Glu and Gln) for 3 d. Plasma Gln, Glu, and whole-blood GSH levels were then measured at 4-h intervals over 24 h. Supplemental oral Gln (0.3 g x kg(-1) x d(-1)) was ingested for 10 d and then 24-h plasma levels of Gln, Glu, and whole-blood GSH were measured. RESULTS: The plasma concentrations of Glu (116%; P = 0.006) and Gln (20%; P = 0.046) were significantly higher, whereas concentrations of GSH were significantly lower (37%; P = 0.00091) after oral Gln supplementation. CONCLUSION: Oral Gln increases Glu and Gln levels in plasma of healthy subjects but does not increase GSH red cell (whole-blood) levels. Thus, GSH biosynthesis and preservation of GHS stores in red blood cells may involve rate-limiting substrates other than Gln.
Impact of oral L-glutamine on glutathione, glutamine, and glutamate blood levels in volunteers.
Valencia E, Marin A, Hardy G.
Pharmaceutical Nutrition Group, School of Biological and Molecular Sciences, Oxford Brookes University, Oxford, United [email protected]
OBJECTIVE: We investigated the effect of glutamine supplementation on plasma glutamine (Gln), glutamate (Glu), and whole-blood glutathione (GSH) concentrations in human volunteers. METHODS: Subjects first adapted to a standard diet with known intakes of protein, total GSH, cysteine, methionine, and total Glu (Glu values include Glu and Gln) for 3 d. Plasma Gln, Glu, and whole-blood GSH levels were then measured at 4-h intervals over 24 h. Supplemental oral Gln (0.3 g x kg(-1) x d(-1)) was ingested for 10 d and then 24-h plasma levels of Gln, Glu, and whole-blood GSH were measured. RESULTS: The plasma concentrations of Glu (116%; P = 0.006) and Gln (20%; P = 0.046) were significantly higher, whereas concentrations of GSH were significantly lower (37%; P = 0.00091) after oral Gln supplementation. CONCLUSION: Oral Gln increases Glu and Gln levels in plasma of healthy subjects but does not increase GSH red cell (whole-blood) levels. Thus, GSH biosynthesis and preservation of GHS stores in red blood cells may involve rate-limiting substrates other than Gln.
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1: Int J Sports Med 2000 Jan;21(1):25-30 Related Articles, Links
The effect of free glutamine and peptide ingestion on the rate of muscle glycogen resynthesis in man.
van Hall G, Saris WH, van de Schoor PA, Wagenmakers AJ.
Department of Human Biology, Maastricht University, The Netherlands. [email protected]
The present study investigated previous claims that ingestion of glutamine and of protein-carbohydrate mixtures may increase the rate of glycogen resynthesis following intense exercise. Eight trained subjects were studied during 3 h of recovery while consuming one of four drinks in random order. Drinks were ingested in three 500 ml boluses, immediately after exercise and then after 1 and 2 h of recovery. Each bolus of the control drink contained 0.8 g x kg(-1) body weight of glucose. The other drinks contained the same amount of glucose and 0.3 g x kg(-1) body weight of 1) glutamine, 2) a wheat hydrolysate (26% glutamine) and 3) a whey hydrolysate (6.6% glutamine). Plasma glutamine, decreased by approximately 20% during recovery with ingestion of the control drink, no changes with ingestion of the protein hydrolysates drinks, and a 2-fold increase with ingestion of the free glutamine drinks. The rate of glycogen resynthesis was not significantly different in the four tests: 28 +/- 5, 26 +/- 6, 33 +/- 4, and 34 +/- 3 mmol glucosyl units x kg(-1) dry weight muscle x h(-1) for the control, glutamine, wheat- and whey hydrolysate ingestion, respectively. It is concluded that ingestion of a glutamine/carbohydrate mixture does not increase the rate of glycogen resynthesis in muscle. Glycogen resynthesis rates were higher, although not statistically significant, after ingestion of the drink containing the wheat (21 +/- 8%) and whey protein hydrolysate (20 +/- 6%) compared to ingestion of the control and free glutamine drinks, implying that further research is needed on the potential protein effect.
The effect of free glutamine and peptide ingestion on the rate of muscle glycogen resynthesis in man.
van Hall G, Saris WH, van de Schoor PA, Wagenmakers AJ.
Department of Human Biology, Maastricht University, The Netherlands. [email protected]
The present study investigated previous claims that ingestion of glutamine and of protein-carbohydrate mixtures may increase the rate of glycogen resynthesis following intense exercise. Eight trained subjects were studied during 3 h of recovery while consuming one of four drinks in random order. Drinks were ingested in three 500 ml boluses, immediately after exercise and then after 1 and 2 h of recovery. Each bolus of the control drink contained 0.8 g x kg(-1) body weight of glucose. The other drinks contained the same amount of glucose and 0.3 g x kg(-1) body weight of 1) glutamine, 2) a wheat hydrolysate (26% glutamine) and 3) a whey hydrolysate (6.6% glutamine). Plasma glutamine, decreased by approximately 20% during recovery with ingestion of the control drink, no changes with ingestion of the protein hydrolysates drinks, and a 2-fold increase with ingestion of the free glutamine drinks. The rate of glycogen resynthesis was not significantly different in the four tests: 28 +/- 5, 26 +/- 6, 33 +/- 4, and 34 +/- 3 mmol glucosyl units x kg(-1) dry weight muscle x h(-1) for the control, glutamine, wheat- and whey hydrolysate ingestion, respectively. It is concluded that ingestion of a glutamine/carbohydrate mixture does not increase the rate of glycogen resynthesis in muscle. Glycogen resynthesis rates were higher, although not statistically significant, after ingestion of the drink containing the wheat (21 +/- 8%) and whey protein hydrolysate (20 +/- 6%) compared to ingestion of the control and free glutamine drinks, implying that further research is needed on the potential protein effect.
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Am J Clin Nutr 1998 Apr;67(4):660-3 Related Articles, Links
An oral glutamine load enhances renal acid secretion and function.
Welbourne T, Claville W, Langford M.
Department of Physiology, Louisiana State University Medical Center, Shreveport 71130, USA. [email protected]
In a recent study, a small oral glutamine load acutely elevated plasma bicarbonate concentrations in healthy adults (Am J Nutr 1995;61:1058-61). The present study was designed to elucidate the renal mechanism underlying the base-generating response to L-glutamine. Accordingly, vehicle (489 mL diet soda) or vehicle plus 2 g L-glutamine (28 mg/kg body wt) was ingested and the gain in extracellular fluid volume bicarbonate was compared with renal acid elimination as either ammonium excretion or tubular acid secretion (titratable acid plus bicarbonate reabsorption). Vehicle alone, which contained 27 mmol acid, did not increase extracellular fluid volume bicarbonate over the 90-min period. In contrast, L-glutamine increased plasma bicarbonate concentration (from 25.4+/-2 to 27.9+/-1 mmol/L, P < 0.05) and extracellular fluid volume bicarbonate by an estimated 39+/-10 mmol. When added to that required to neutralize the ingested acid, the combined total for new bicarbonate generated gave an estimated 66+/-10 mmol. Surprisingly, ammonium excretion accounted for < 2% of this newly generated bicarbonate. However, acid secreted and excreted as net acid (5.2+/-4.0 mmol/90 min) as well as that coupled to enhanced bicarbonate reabsorption (76+/-20 mmol/90 min) readily accounted for the estimated base gain (81+/-24 compared with 66+/-10 mmol/90 min). Concomitant with enhanced renal acid secretion, the oral glutamine load elicited an increase in glomerular filtration rate. These results rule out a role for L-glutamine as a direct precursor of bicarbonate and instead point to an indirect role in accelerating acid secretion, apparently coupled to increased glomerular filtration rate.
An oral glutamine load enhances renal acid secretion and function.
Welbourne T, Claville W, Langford M.
Department of Physiology, Louisiana State University Medical Center, Shreveport 71130, USA. [email protected]
In a recent study, a small oral glutamine load acutely elevated plasma bicarbonate concentrations in healthy adults (Am J Nutr 1995;61:1058-61). The present study was designed to elucidate the renal mechanism underlying the base-generating response to L-glutamine. Accordingly, vehicle (489 mL diet soda) or vehicle plus 2 g L-glutamine (28 mg/kg body wt) was ingested and the gain in extracellular fluid volume bicarbonate was compared with renal acid elimination as either ammonium excretion or tubular acid secretion (titratable acid plus bicarbonate reabsorption). Vehicle alone, which contained 27 mmol acid, did not increase extracellular fluid volume bicarbonate over the 90-min period. In contrast, L-glutamine increased plasma bicarbonate concentration (from 25.4+/-2 to 27.9+/-1 mmol/L, P < 0.05) and extracellular fluid volume bicarbonate by an estimated 39+/-10 mmol. When added to that required to neutralize the ingested acid, the combined total for new bicarbonate generated gave an estimated 66+/-10 mmol. Surprisingly, ammonium excretion accounted for < 2% of this newly generated bicarbonate. However, acid secreted and excreted as net acid (5.2+/-4.0 mmol/90 min) as well as that coupled to enhanced bicarbonate reabsorption (76+/-20 mmol/90 min) readily accounted for the estimated base gain (81+/-24 compared with 66+/-10 mmol/90 min). Concomitant with enhanced renal acid secretion, the oral glutamine load elicited an increase in glomerular filtration rate. These results rule out a role for L-glutamine as a direct precursor of bicarbonate and instead point to an indirect role in accelerating acid secretion, apparently coupled to increased glomerular filtration rate.
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Am J Clin Nutr 1995 May;61(5):1058-61 Related Articles, Links
Increased plasma bicarbonate and growth hormone after an oral glutamine load.
Welbourne TC.
Department of Physiology, Louisiana State University College of Medicine, Shreveport 71130, USA.
An oral glutamine load was administered to nine healthy subjects to determine the effect on plasma glutamine, bicarbonate, and circulating growth hormone concentrations. Two grams glutamine were dissolved in a cola drink and ingested over a 20-min period 45 min after a light breakfast. Forearm venous blood samples were obtained at zero time and at 30-min intervals for 90 min and compared with time controls obtained 1 wk earlier. Eight of nine subjects responded to the oral glutamine load with an increase in plasma glutamine at 30 and 60 min before returning to the control value at 90 min. Ninety minutes after the glutamine administration load both plasma bicarbonate concentration and circulating plasma growth hormone concentration were elevated. These findings demonstrate that a surprisingly small oral glutamine load is capable of elevating alkaline reserves as well as plasma growth hormone.
Increased plasma bicarbonate and growth hormone after an oral glutamine load.
Welbourne TC.
Department of Physiology, Louisiana State University College of Medicine, Shreveport 71130, USA.
An oral glutamine load was administered to nine healthy subjects to determine the effect on plasma glutamine, bicarbonate, and circulating growth hormone concentrations. Two grams glutamine were dissolved in a cola drink and ingested over a 20-min period 45 min after a light breakfast. Forearm venous blood samples were obtained at zero time and at 30-min intervals for 90 min and compared with time controls obtained 1 wk earlier. Eight of nine subjects responded to the oral glutamine load with an increase in plasma glutamine at 30 and 60 min before returning to the control value at 90 min. Ninety minutes after the glutamine administration load both plasma bicarbonate concentration and circulating plasma growth hormone concentration were elevated. These findings demonstrate that a surprisingly small oral glutamine load is capable of elevating alkaline reserves as well as plasma growth hormone.
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1: J Cell Mol Med 2002 Jul-Sep;6(3):377-82 Related Articles, Links
Effects of oral supplement of L-glutamine on diverted colon wall.
Paulo FL.
Colorectal Surgery Division, Department of Surgery, State University of Rio de Janeiro, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. [email protected]
Diverted colorectal segments can present trophic and inflammatory changes. These alterations are of special importance in the patients whose colostomy becomes permanent, as well as in the differential diagnosis with other inflammatory diseases. This study was accomplished to quantify these alterations and to determine if oral supplement of L-glutamine would avoid them. Twenty-six adult male Wistar rats were distributed in three groups: control, colostomized and colostomized+L-glutamine. The colostomized group received a loop colostomy. The colostomized+L-glutamine group received a colostomy similar to the previous group and oral supplement of L-glutamine. Partial volumes of all layers of the colonic wall were measured by image analysis stereology. The diversion caused a decrease of partial volumes of the mucosa and the epithelium as well, and also of the height of the intestinal crypts (p<0.05). There was an increase of partial volumes of the lamina propria, of the submucosa and of the muscularis mucosae vs controls (p<0.05). The partial volume of the muscularis propria didn't show significant alteration. The supplementation of L-glutamine was effective in preventing the atrophy of mucosa and epithelium (p<0.05), also avoiding the increase of partial volumes of the submucosa and lamina propria (p<0.05). This supplement didn't change significantly the muscular layers. In conclusion, colostomy causes the atrophy of the colon wall, mainly due to the atrophy of the epithelium. The supplementation of L-glutamine is able to avoid these changes.
Effects of oral supplement of L-glutamine on diverted colon wall.
Paulo FL.
Colorectal Surgery Division, Department of Surgery, State University of Rio de Janeiro, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. [email protected]
Diverted colorectal segments can present trophic and inflammatory changes. These alterations are of special importance in the patients whose colostomy becomes permanent, as well as in the differential diagnosis with other inflammatory diseases. This study was accomplished to quantify these alterations and to determine if oral supplement of L-glutamine would avoid them. Twenty-six adult male Wistar rats were distributed in three groups: control, colostomized and colostomized+L-glutamine. The colostomized group received a loop colostomy. The colostomized+L-glutamine group received a colostomy similar to the previous group and oral supplement of L-glutamine. Partial volumes of all layers of the colonic wall were measured by image analysis stereology. The diversion caused a decrease of partial volumes of the mucosa and the epithelium as well, and also of the height of the intestinal crypts (p<0.05). There was an increase of partial volumes of the lamina propria, of the submucosa and of the muscularis mucosae vs controls (p<0.05). The partial volume of the muscularis propria didn't show significant alteration. The supplementation of L-glutamine was effective in preventing the atrophy of mucosa and epithelium (p<0.05), also avoiding the increase of partial volumes of the submucosa and lamina propria (p<0.05). This supplement didn't change significantly the muscular layers. In conclusion, colostomy causes the atrophy of the colon wall, mainly due to the atrophy of the epithelium. The supplementation of L-glutamine is able to avoid these changes.
