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Why I Hate Squat Suits

bblazer

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You got to wear them. This picture is of the damage caused by a BROKEN IN 1 ply IPF regulation squat suit after a 1 hour squatting session. The pic was taken about 3 hours after I took the suit off, and the burns and bruising have had time to settle down a bit too.

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That black box is a little on the small side.... ;)

Its an optical illusion created by my disproportionately huge thigh muscles. In fact they are so big, when I stand next to a Mini Cooper they are often confused for a Smart Car.

But as Uncle Cracker says: "It may be small but it fits 'em all."

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haha, check out my journal bro i have a question for u in there.
 
You need to find a good tailor to take that suit up for you. Surely it can be a little tighter!

I can get my briefs, suit, and all my shirts on and off myself..lol. I need to hurry up and grow into them!

The shirt I use the most is my 1 ply 10 year old closed back Titan Fury...and I get it on and off myself. Funny stuff!
 
You should love this...

Inzer double denim.

 
Lol

Bblazer when you start a thread like this you should warn us to the nature of the images in it, hairy, nude, pale, small black boxes, very disturbing :worried:

Wait until I show pictures of my hairy man boobs.

You'll be trying to find out ways to poke out your mind's eye.

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You need to find a good tailor to take that suit up for you. Surely it can be a little tighter!

I can get my briefs, suit, and all my shirts on and off myself..lol. I need to hurry up and grow into them!

The shirt I use the most is my 1 ply 10 year old closed back Titan Fury...and I get it on and off myself. Funny stuff!

I have to hang off the J hooks and wriggle around to get it up high enough. You should see the looks I get from the soccer moms on the elliptical machines.

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lol i would have went nuts halfway thru. I hate when shirts get caught trying to take them off i usually get pissed and go ape shit on the thing trying to get it off.
 
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Lifting suits are another necessity for big squats. They are not only a safety aid but they actually enable training with heavier weights by adding extra support to the hips and glutes


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Lifting suits are another necessity for big squats. They are not only a safety aid but they actually enable training with heavier weights by adding extra support to the hips and glutes


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lol i would have went nuts halfway thru. I hate when shirts get caught trying to take them off i usually get pissed and go ape shit on the thing trying to get it off.

I thought I was going to have to drive home one day in one of my tighter ones.

They aren't hard for me to get on (all mine are HUGE) but once I have any kind of pump, am sweaty, and in a bad mood...getting one off can really try my patience.
 
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Lifting suits are another necessity for big squats. They are not only a safety aid but they actually enable training with heavier weights by adding extra support to the hips and glutes


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Apparently someone forgot to tell Ivan suits are necessities for a big squat:



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I love how the "exceptions" are always used to try and prove a "rule".

There is a HUGE difference between 265 kgs and 400-500kgs as well. Again...not using an "exception" to prove the "rule".
 
I love how the "exceptions" are always used to try and prove a "rule".

There is a HUGE difference between 265 kgs and 400-500kgs as well. Again...not using an "exception" to prove the "rule".
I'm not sure what you're trying to say.....I mean, Chakarov is by no means abnormal or an "exception" among Oly lifters. You must also keep in mind that squats like the ones Ivan is doing above are not the training focus and are a supplement to help the C&J/snatch. Oly lifters don't care what they squat. Anyway.....the point is just suits, shirts, etc. while helpful in the right situation are by no means a necessity....unless you're a PL'er lifting in an equipped competition.
 
I'm not sure what you're trying to say.....I mean, Chakarov is by no means abnormal or an "exception" among Oly lifters.

:)

I'm by far no beginner when it comes to lifting. I'm a huge fan of Dimas, we all cried when he retired (he writes for a news paper now).

By the same token that you can show someone like Dimas or Chakarov doing a no, no, no squat with INSANE weights is similar to posting up an NBA All-Star as an example of a basketball player and possibly relating to how high a basketball player can jump. You can't use an All-Star as an example.

If you want to use a sample of squatters, let's not use the top .0005% of the squatters in the World as an example. Lets use the top 10% at least and say that a decent squat suit or briefs will help with the protection of the hips in the squat lift. For the majority of HARD squatters (and especially those using a wider stance) a pair of briefs will for sure allow them to squat with intensity for longer periods without injury or hip pains. I hardly ever get hip pains from heavy hard box squats but that is just me and it is rare. (I box squatted an easy 682 a few weeks ago with loose belt only, below depth).

You must also keep in mind that squats like the ones Ivan is doing above are not the training focus and are a supplement to help the C&J/snatch. Oly lifters don't care what they squat. Anyway.....the point is just suits, shirts, etc. while helpful in the right situation are by no means a necessity....unless you're a PL'er lifting in an equipped competition.

Squats are a supplement exercise for my sport as well and I FULLY see your point about suits and shirts. There can be a line between protection and HELP. I'd like to compete in a powerlifting meet in the next year or two and I'll be wearing the MAXIMUM allowed for sure!

Been using the shirted bench press to greatly help my overhead press lately with great results too. Shoulders and chest are not taking a beating and it is frying my triceps!!!!!
 
I'm not sure what you're trying to say.....I mean, Chakarov is by no means abnormal or an "exception" among Oly lifters. You must also keep in mind that squats like the ones Ivan is doing above are not the training focus and are a supplement to help the C&J/snatch. Oly lifters don't care what they squat. Anyway.....the point is just suits, shirts, etc. while helpful in the right situation are by no means a necessity....unless you're a PL'er lifting in an equipped competition.

You just said yourself that oly lifting and powerlifting are 2 different thing. sure 585lbs is a big squat to most but im powerlifting that is nothing. So i would not consider that a big squat which would "require" a suite. Plus im 99% sure bblazer was referring to powerlifting as thats all he talks about. haha
 
You just said yourself that oly lifting and powerlifting are 2 different thing. sure 585lbs is a big squat to most but im powerlifting that is nothing. So i would not consider that a big squat which would "require" a suite. Plus im 99% sure bblazer was referring to powerlifting as thats all he talks about. haha

There's other things besides powerlifting?

Why else would you lift weights?

Oh yea, to "tone" and "firm up." I forgot about that.

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:)

I'm by far no beginner when it comes to lifting. I'm a huge fan of Dimas, we all cried when he retired (he writes for a news paper now).

By the same token that you can show someone like Dimas or Chakarov doing a no, no, no squat with INSANE weights is similar to posting up an NBA All-Star as an example of a basketball player and possibly relating to how high a basketball player can jump. You can't use an All-Star as an example.

If you want to use a sample of squatters, let's not use the top .0005% of the squatters in the World as an example. Lets use the top 10% at least and say that a decent squat suit or briefs will help with the protection of the hips in the squat lift. For the majority of HARD squatters (and especially those using a wider stance) a pair of briefs will for sure allow them to squat with intensity for longer periods without injury or hip pains. I hardly ever get hip pains from heavy hard box squats but that is just me and it is rare. (I box squatted an easy 682 a few weeks ago with loose belt only, below depth).



Squats are a supplement exercise for my sport as well and I FULLY see your point about suits and shirts. There can be a line between protection and HELP. I'd like to compete in a powerlifting meet in the next year or two and I'll be wearing the MAXIMUM allowed for sure!

Been using the shirted bench press to greatly help my overhead press lately with great results too. Shoulders and chest are not taking a beating and it is frying my triceps!!!!!

You know, I agree with you for the most part, but I've come to believe that most people are capable of similar results as those elites. And yes, this is merely correlative and anecdotal, but it seems like powerlifters - the ones who are most likely to use suits - are the ones who have the most trouble with hip problems. Just makes me wonder how safe powerlifting technique really is.

You just said yourself that oly lifting and powerlifting are 2 different thing. sure 585lbs is a big squat to most but im powerlifting that is nothing. So i would not consider that a big squat which would "require" a suite. Plus im 99% sure bblazer was referring to powerlifting as thats all he talks about. haha

Considering the ROM, depth, lack of equipment, his bodyweight, the ease at which he doubled the weight, and the fact that that video was 3 days prior to a competition, and I'd consider that a big squat. :cool:
 
You know, I agree with you for the most part, but I've come to believe that most people are capable of similar results as those elites. And yes, this is merely correlative and anecdotal, but it seems like powerlifters - the ones who are most likely to use suits - are the ones who have the most trouble with hip problems. Just makes me wonder how safe powerlifting technique really is.

I'm another one here who isn't exactly new to PLing, and I know of only one PLer with hip problems. His came after he turned 60 and he needed a hip replacement.

Could you maybe "de-generalize" your statement a bit, and explain what the the hip problems are, who is experiencing them, and why you think they have to do with powerlifting technique?

Thanks!

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Well i know that wide stance squatting is used to put more work on the hips opposed to a narrow stance. Could have something to do with it when squatting 7-8-900lbs for years on end. So there is one reason i can see the use for a suit.
 
I'm another one here who isn't exactly new to PLing, and I know of only one PLer with hip problems. His came after he turned 60 and he needed a hip replacement.

Could you maybe "de-generalize" your statement a bit, and explain what the the hip problems are, who is experiencing them, and why you think they have to do with powerlifting technique?

Thanks!

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Specific people? How about Dave Tate?

As for the basis of my statement, just think about the movement efficiency and fluidity of a PLer versus, say a 100m sprinter. Most PLers don't even like the walk from the car to the gym. :) Who would you guess is more likely to have joint problems? Admittedly though, there are a lot factors that are relevant here, so to isolate technique alone probably isn't wise. But I will say that (not so) common sense should tell you that if you frequently handle near-limit loads for a significant period of time, your joints are gonna take a beating.

LMAO!!!!!

That mullet takes at least 200 lbs off that bar just for the douchebag factor.

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Pssshh.....you're just jealous you can't have hair that sexy. :chomp:
 
You know, I agree with you for the most part, but I've come to believe that most people are capable of similar results as those elites. And yes, this is merely correlative and anecdotal, but it seems like powerlifters - the ones who are most likely to use suits - are the ones who have the most trouble with hip problems. Just makes me wonder how safe powerlifting technique really is.

How many OLY lifters can compete into their 50's? How many develop wrist, elbow, hip, knee problems? I have a friend who has represented his country AT the Olympics and has switched to Strongman (where he has done more than just make the finals at WSM) and has soooo fewer injuries in Strongman than OLY lifting. Past his mid 20's he couldn't do OLY any more due to injuries (small ones that hindered progress).

I have a few friends who have competed at the Olympics in OLY lifting and nearly all of them have hip and knee problems. Knee is common and so is hip. Elbow, wrist, and shoulder is common and so are painful hands.

Most people can accomplish what these "elites" can? C'mon man. How many people on the planet can do a 215kg Clean and Jerk like Dimas at ANY body weight...much less at his 82.5, 83, and 85kg class? How many SHW's can do that in the World? How many American lifters can do that?

With Power Lifters as well as all athletes, they need to spend more time pre-habbing so they don't have to rehab. I can't agree more. I have one gym session a week devoted only to prehab (rev hypers, rotators, abs, hips, sled walking, shoulder traction, etc...).

Any performance based sport will have injuries and pains though. I'm pretty sure Table Tennis Pro's have shoulder, elbow, wrist, knee, and ankle issues (among "others"). :)

Considering the ROM, depth, lack of equipment, his bodyweight, the ease at which he doubled the weight, and the fact that that video was 3 days prior to a competition, and I'd consider that a big squat. :cool:

Yes, a strong squat. How much more could he do for 1 rep though? Just a thought. Take away the drop, bounce, and extreme speed on the way down, and how would it affect him? I can't drop that fast, even if I tried...lol. Wish I could.

One could also guess him to be as high as 95-99kgs up to 3 days prior to weigh-ins as well. It is very common to be able to drop 10% of your bodyweight the day of weigh-ins (the horror of the though!).

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Just talked to a friend of mine who has worked with Dimas and he said that his POSTED PR's were:
Snatch 182
Clean and Jerk 220
Front Squat 290
OLY Squat 337.5
Deadlift 290

He said that he thought that he might have had SLIGHTLY better gym PR's at different times over his career, but maybe only by a kg or two, depending on their training at the times.
 
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Snatch 182
Clean and Jerk 220
Front Squat 290
OLY Squat 337.5
Deadlift 290

Just for you...lol
Snatch: 400.4
Clean and Jerk: 462
Front Squat: 585.8
OLY Squat: 742.5
Deadlift: 638

At a competing bodyweight of 187 lbs.
 
Thanks.

I think I am the only computer geek that is mathematically challenged.

Could you also convert that to stone for me as well. And not those damn stones you like to toss around. I want the British version of stone weight!

A 638 pull at 187 is pretty decent I would say. A little work at Westside could help with that though ;)

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Thanks.

I think I am the only computer geek that is mathematically challenged.

Could you also convert that to stone for me as well. And not those damn stones you like to toss around. I want the British version of stone weight!

A 638 pull at 187 is pretty decent I would say. A little work at Westside could help with that though ;)

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That was the ONLY lift that I thought was low of his. Dimas as a freak of nature. He took Bronze in Athens with a broken bone in his hand (he just taped it up) and after his final lift he took his shoes off and put them at the edge of the platform. Everyone in our house was crying.
 
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