???why Eq And Not Deca???

[Juicta]

I'm in a bit of a dilemma, I am a big fan of Deca and have been for the last 7 years, I could easily drink the stuff with my morning oats and firmly believe that if used in the right quantities it will cure any disease known to man, but it seems that everybody I know is moving away from Deca as well as most the post on the site, everybody is using Eq instead of good old Deca.

My comp is 30 weeks out and I'm doing two 14 week courses my 1st one I can experiment a little and was thinking of using EQ (1st time) instead of Deca with Test, should I go for EQ and leave the Deca out, can I stack EQ and Deca with Test or will that not be advised?

 

[Outtlaw]

Well Im not moving away from deca. I've tried them both and I prefer deca over eq. Of course, when talking about contest prep that's a different situation.

 

[Juicta]

Good to see that somebody out there still believes in Deca, pre contest I have used Deca, stopped it 2 weeks out and I have consistantly placed in the top 4 in SA for the last 3 years, but this year is going to be a different story, don't have woman issues like I had the last three years, it'll just be me and my Deca

 

[RADAR]

I'm a fan of Deca myself, EQ is over rated to me but to answer your question ,yes you can mix all three Test,Deca, EQ. Bear in mind EQ needs a min of 12 weeks to run.

RADAR

 

[LVTitan]

deca's number one fan right here !!

i mix my deca with eq and i don't run test with it either.
just started this week another eq/deca cycle.
will be adding the deca in 5 weeks, one month preload on eq

 

[random]

Real rough men use Deca little child use EQ

 

[LVTitan]

Real rough men use Deca little child use EQ

eq haters and other 's like to wear their pants too low in their avatar

 

[wayneboard1]

eq haters and other 's like to wear their pants too low in their avatar

LOL.

 

[BOWTECH]

I'm a fan of Deca myself, EQ is over rated to me but to answer your question ,yes you can mix all three Test,Deca, EQ. Bear in mind EQ needs a min of 12 weeks to run.

RADAR

Yep...Just finished up the Deca. I was running all three at once and loving it. Now running eq & test. Very good results

 

[random]

Quote:
Originally Posted by LVTitan
eq haters and other 's like to wear their pants too low in their avatar




LOL.

LOL whatever i m not gay

 

[Juicta]

Yep...Just finished up the Deca. I was running all three at once and loving it. Now running eq & test. Very good results

What sort of quantities were you using when you ran the triplets? And in your opinion which brand is better? In S A its not easy finding anything but QV, but I managed to get someone who claims to be able to get GTP so we'll see.

I'm glad to see that there are some people in this silly world sick pre contest diets, lifting weights and pumping juice that still use / abuse Deca I'm proud to be one

 

[phatstud]

what would be the main advantage/dis of running decca vs EQ?

i ran EQ for about 13wks or so with Sust and was very happy with it.

 

[djsf]

Another deca lover here. I have not tried eq so I can't comment on it. I am going to try it next cycle (probably test/deca/eq as RADAR mentioned). MY friend told me this was his favorite stack ever so I will try it.

 

[Juicta]

Another deca lover here. I have not tried eq so I can't comment on it. I am going to try it next cycle (probably test/deca/eq as RADAR mentioned). MY friend told me this was his favorite stack ever so I will try it.

I can't believe I was considering running Eq and not Deca think I need to go sit in the corner and think about what I almost did I was also thinking of hitting the three of them for 12 weeks, How does 800-1000mg Test,Deca 600mg and EQ 400mg per week sound? Its a very basic course, but I am sure this combo will make you grow like a mother fucker...

 

[RADAR]

Another deca lover here. I have not tried eq so I can't comment on it. I am going to try it next cycle (probably test/deca/eq as RADAR mentioned). MY friend told me this was his favorite stack ever so I will try it.

Doing the same but adding Tbol

RADAR

 

[BOWTECH]

What sort of quantities were you using when you ran the triplets? And in your opinion which brand is better? In S A its not easy finding anything but QV, but I managed to get someone who claims to be able to get GTP so we'll see.

I'm glad to see that there are some people in this silly world sick pre contest diets, lifting weights and pumping juice that still use / abuse Deca I'm proud to be one

Test e 750/week
Deca 500mg/week
Eq 600mg/week

I run alot of BD gear. But I have ran GTP and LSP also. I can't complain about any of them they all worked very well for me. I have run QV in the past and that worked well too.

 

[kbrkbr]

I don't use deca anymore for two reasons.

1. It takes me longer to recover than eq.

2. Can't use finasteride with deca, and since test is always my base, gotta have my finasteride.

 

[dullboy]

LOL whatever i m not gay

self loathing is a terrible thing...

 

[boxerjake]

Some " old school " thinkers who still perscribe to the bulking then cutting phases of training like the increase appitite from the EQ .... but vet roids can make one feel a bit off colour

Todays brand of skinny thin lean lanky bodybuilder types want to be lean gainers and instead of bulking and cutting so they often stick with steriod types that don't cause a ton of bloat ..

These are the ones that think the ab's are the only body part that matters and walk around in pixy sticks for legs .

Most everything is test based anyways so why not just stick with the meat and potatos .. funny how the first 2 roids still offer the best results today dispite everything else thats been brought to the market place .. good old test and d-bol can and will build you an solid foundation if you put you mind to training instead of spending all your energy thinking about what steroid to use next .

I've used deca for joint relief and EQ for getting down all the calories but the base is still test products as they are what makes you a male ...

 

[LVTitan]

Some " old school " thinkers who still perscribe to the bulking then cutting phases of training like the increase appitite from the EQ .... but vet roids can make one feel a bit off colour

Todays brand of skinny thin lean lanky bodybuilder types want to be lean gainers and instead of bulking and cutting so they often stick with steriod types that don't cause a ton of bloat ..

These are the ones that think the ab's are the only body part that matters and walk around in pixy sticks for legs .

Most everything is test based anyways so why not just stick with the meat and potatos .. funny how the first 2 roids still offer the best results today dispite everything else thats been brought to the market place .. good old test and d-bol can and will build you an solid foundation if you put you mind to training instead of spending all your energy thinking about what steroid to use next .

I've used deca for joint relief and EQ for getting down all the calories but the base is still test products as they are what makes you a male ...

and on any other day i'd agree with you bro.. i DO NOT subscribe to the 'bulk then cut' way myself, i prefer lean mass building, i think it is healthier, and i like staying around 5-7%bf year round. and no, i dont work out my abs, dont care for abs that much.
but i cant use test anymore as it gives me horrible sides, sides which i do not get from deca or eq, so i use eq as my base now.
if i could get away with test, then yes, test/deca would be my only cycle.

 

[kbrkbr]

and on any other day i'd agree with you bro.. i DO NOT subscribe to the 'bulk then cut' way myself, i prefer lean mass building, i think it is healthier, and i like staying around 5-7%bf year round. and no, i dont work out my abs, dont care for abs that much.
but i cant use test anymore as it gives me horrible sides, sides which i do not get from deca or eq, so i use eq as my base now.
if i could get away with test, then yes, test/deca would be my only cycle.

LV
What sides do you get from test? Acne etc?

 

[Retabolil2]

I'm a fan of Deca myself, EQ is over rated to me but to answer your question ,yes you can mix all three Test,Deca, EQ. Bear in mind EQ needs a min of 12 weeks to run.

RADAR

Radar could you please explain me 12weeks min for Eq cycle?
Does this rule stand for GTP stuff as well? I was under impression their stuff shouldnt be used for more than 3days

 

[boxerjake]

I don't perscibe to that manner of training myself ... it was just used as an example

I works for some so ..

For the record i've always gone with the short 3 week to 4 week cycles with little or no suppression what so ever and always kept 100% of the gains due to the timeline this is not the popular way with 98% of drug users as it takes years of work to reach there goals instead of months ..

I'm not in a race and in it for the long haul .. i started out at 185lbs at 5" 10 and today i sit at 230lbs never loosing as much as an ounce after a cycle and no pct's !

It works for me so i'll stick with it ..

I love deca btw ... I'm not on the gear right now and last night i was benching 400 and change ... on deca that # goes up by at least 30 to 50 lbs due to joint relief ... EQ camps me out infront of the fridge and my wife armed with a 2x4 slapping my wrists everytime i open the fridge door as the food bill is her duty ...

All gear serves us all a different purpose so use what works in your own situation and take other opinions into consideration but not always the stay hard rule ..

After all .. this is a place to learn

 

[bigrand]

4 weekers eh?
I remember talkin about those short thing awhile back......how do you run them, what are your gains?

Was thinking of running 4-6 weekers with NPP, Tren, drol and tbol (various combos of them).

 

[LVTitan]

LV
What sides do you get from test? Acne etc?

acne yes, but post cycle, not during cycle...
and you guys can all say what you want about 'roid rage' being mythical, but on deca/eq i am a happy camper, and i feel calm no matter what happens..

when i take test, i snap at everybody, pull mother fuckers out of their cars for cutting me off, and i put hands on my exgirlfriend... say what you want, but test made me very angry person, only test had this effect on me.
and the post cycle acne lasted over a year last time, only thing that helped me was accutane.

 

[random]

Originally Posted by random
Real rough men use Deca little child use EQ


eq haters and other 's like to wear their pants too low in their avatar

Deca was a favorite gor Arnold, Lou and Franco :s tsssssss EQ is for child

 

[flex2win]

There's a reason why Deca is the number one anabolic used worldwide:
It can be used in all various scenarios and results are incredible.
In this case, Deca...TKO 1st round over EQ...if you can handle the sides..

 

[kbrkbr]

acne yes, but post cycle, not during cycle...
and you guys can all say what you want about 'roid rage' being mythical, but on deca/eq i am a happy camper, and i feel calm no matter what happens..

when i take test, i snap at everybody, pull mother fuckers out of their cars for cutting me off, and i put hands on my exgirlfriend... say what you want, but test made me very angry person, only test had this effect on me.
and the post cycle acne lasted over a year last time, only thing that helped me was accutane.

YIkes. Test actually mellows my old ass out. Funnyhow this stuff effects each of us differently.

 

[LVTitan]

EQ is for child

keep preaching that around radar and mustang and others who use eq and i have NO DOUBT in my mind look way better than you !

 

[Jayhawk21]

What is there to guard against progesterone gyno?

 

[LVTitan]

What is there to guard against progesterone gyno?

um, you could take a suicide ai like aromasin has been known to have some progesterone effects.. but nothing really blocks it that i know of
unless you can get your hands on some ru486

this is what i've heard , i cannot confirm any of this with experience.

 

[hangclean]

There is still no scientific evidence that show progesterone induced gyno exists.

 

[RADAR]

acne yes, but post cycle, not during cycle...
and you guys can all say what you want about 'roid rage' being mythical, but on deca/eq i am a happy camper, and i feel calm no matter what happens..

when i take test, i snap at everybody, pull mother fuckers out of their cars for cutting me off, and i put hands on my exgirlfriend... say what you want, but test made me very angry person, only test had this effect on me.
and the post cycle acne lasted over a year last time, only thing that helped me was accutane.

I had this same problem first running test , i had broke a toe so i parked my vette way out in the K mart parking lot away from everyone, came out (still limping frome the toe) lo & behold this dude had parked right beside my vette so close i saw him getting in his car he had barely enough room to squeeze in thats how close he was i couldn't get over there fast enough, the wife said my face was beet red i was raging, at least he didn;t door my car but he peeled rubber when he saw me comming & the look on my face, now after several test cycles i'm a mellow fellow.
Your body needs time to adapt to the hormones.


RADAR

 

[Juicta]

when i take test, i snap at everybody, pull mother fuckers out of their cars for cutting me off, and i put hands on my exgirlfriend... say what you want, but test made me very angry person, only test had this effect on me.
and the post cycle acne lasted over a year last time, only thing that helped me was accutane.[/QUOTE]


My 1st couple of Test cycles as well, I just couldn't keep it together I remember talking to an I-Rate client midway through my 1st course, can't exactly remember what was said but I snapped called his mother something and slammed the phone down, then I broke the phone by pounding the handset into the other piece with my fist after the phone was in 15 000 little plastic pieces I stopped looked around and saw about 50 people staring at me, needles to say I was asked to take the rest of the day off...

These days though I am alot more placid on the juice than off the stuff I just keep reminding myself that its not me its the juice and walk away, well 9 out 10 at least, still feel sorry for the fucker who ends up being no 10, plenty misplaced roid rage...

 

[galaxy]

acne yes, but post cycle, not during cycle...
and you guys can all say what you want about 'roid rage' being mythical, but on deca/eq i am a happy camper, and i feel calm no matter what happens..

when i take test, i snap at everybody, pull mother fuckers out of their cars for cutting me off, and i put hands on my exgirlfriend... say what you want, but test made me very angry person, only test had this effect on me.
and the post cycle acne lasted over a year last time, only thing that helped me was accutane.

Do u ever just run EQ alone? Like continue with just EQ after your main course?

 

[LVTitan]

There is still no scientific evidence that show progesterone induced gyno exists.

uh... okay

 

[LVTitan]

I had this same problem first running test , i had broke a toe so i parked my vette way out in the K mart parking lot away from everyone, came out (still limping frome the toe) lo & behold this dude had parked right beside my vette so close i saw him getting in his car he had barely enough room to squeeze in thats how close he was i couldn't get over there fast enough, the wife said my face was beet red i was raging, at least he didn;t door my car but he peeled rubber when he saw me comming & the look on my face, now after several test cycles i'm a mellow fellow.
Your body needs time to adapt to the hormones.


RADAR

i'm the opposite bro,my first couple cycles with test i had no problems, the more i used it, the more of an angry person i became. i vowed to never use it again after i saw what i did to my girl. i cannot go back to that person.

 

[tin2]

Deca is awsome .. Eq is better for recovery .. there 2 diff things ..depends what u want i guess.

 

[Mavafanculo]

only stuff that REALLY got me in a rage was a prohormone (go figure) 1-TU which was a 1-test product.

the worst of the aas's for me rage-wise is tren, but still not horrible.

 

[Mavafanculo]

Deca is awsome .. Eq is better for recovery .. there 2 diff things ..depends what u want i guess.

recovery as is natural endogenous test production or recovery from training?
deca is probably better for training recovery.

 

[LVTitan]

Do u ever just run EQ alone? Like continue with just EQ after your main course?

no, but i'm not opposed to it, i just recently found the eq/deca cycle so i havent done too much to it. this currennt cycle i am running the eq for 5 weeks before starting the deca, and i may keep running the eq after depending on how i feel.