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Why does everyone want to run cutting cycles?!?

This post just hits on everything I beleive in about training. When you really think about it this game of ours (bodybuilding/competitive or just recreational) it is very political and almost religious. There are dozens of ideals and practicies with which we as individual bodybuilders have to sculpt our "gym philiosophy" around. Some people adhere to a training and diet regimine that prevents them from ever getting big, but allows them to be quite lean year round. Some people are mass addicts and don't mind carrying 12%bf so long as they're growing animals.

I personally have never seen the point in the perpertual cutter. Why go into the gym day in day out to not gain an ounce of muscle. Why sacrifice 5 pounds of muscle for an extra 1% reduction in bodyfat. Many people don't compete and have no need to be at ridiculously low bodyfat levels, but we see it all the time here on the board and in our gyms. Why are these people putting themselves through this? It makes you wonder whom they're doing it for and who they're really training for. Dieting to 8% or so(reasonable for most) is fine. It's a challenging new goal to keep your time in the gym exciting and fresh. But why this nonsense about going beyond that when there is no pay day involved and no judges to win over?

My philosophy since nearly day one of my training was to get f**k'n huge. Why the hell not? I'm putting a lot of my soal into this life, why not walk around and draw jaw dropping stares wherever I go. I'm putting a passionate dedication into my gym time, diet, and lifestyle, why not put all that effort and knowledge to work and get something truely remarkable to show for it. In my eyes 6%bf at 160 pounds isn't remarkable. We all went to school with kids whom already had this physique without ever touching a weight and simultaneously eating doughnuts and dorittos. If you're going to be using AS why not put them to work for you and see how muscle muscle you can grow? In my opinion that's more of a challenge than cutting.

Honesty compells me to say that if you feel you have to carry sub7-8% bodyfat in an effort to impress and even attract the opposite sex you are not only doing this for the wrong reason, but you're a weak individual and severly lacking in self-value. I think most of us know that it doesn't take much to impress people. The only person you need to impress is yourself. So if you're dieting to challenge yourself and find your pottential then more power to you, but if your the "I'm going on vacation and need to drop fat overnight" type then maybe you need to find your spine.
 
what if someone wants to lose some extra fat..... im at around 15% but am only 180..... i know i should gain a lot more weight ... but i just cant stand the extra fat around the waist... when ur saying cutting, you mean cutting (AAS) cycle.... what about cardio.... if ur saying get as huge as possible, then cardio shouldnt be done cause u want the extra cal's. correct??
 
aky said:
what if someone wants to lose some extra fat..... im at around 15% but am only 180..... i know i should gain a lot more weight ... but i just cant stand the extra fat around the waist... when ur saying cutting, you mean cutting (AAS) cycle.... what about cardio.... if ur saying get as huge as possible, then cardio shouldnt be done cause u want the extra cal's. correct??

I'm personally talking about guys who are already at low body fat(10-12%) but just continue to push it as a means of justifying thier self-worth. If you want to drop some fat and tighten up then by all means make that your goal. But unless you have a show or a paycheck don't get too carried away for the sole means of impressing others. If you have to do this to gain confidence in yourself then you're doing it for the wrong reasons. If you're doing it to challenge yourself and better yourself then it's a worthwhile project. Keep in mind that 15%bf is not fat.
 
Beezers said:


I'm personally talking about guys who are already at low body fat(10-12%) but just continue to push it as a means of justifying thier self-worth. If you want to drop some fat and tighten up then by all means make that your goal. But unless you have a show or a paycheck don't get too carried away for the sole means of impressing others. If you have to do this to gain confidence in yourself then you're doing it for the wrong reasons. If you're doing it to challenge yourself and better yourself then it's a worthwhile project. Keep in mind that 15%bf is not fat.

so at 6ft, 180 and 15% you'd recommend i bulk? That was my original plan (on fina(75) and prop(100) ED shots with 1mg l'dex ED) but i started to change my mind...... i dont want to get too sluggish and be out of breath climbing the stairs... this is what happened last time to me at 190.
 
Best post I've read all week!!! Exactly my beliefs! Bravo to the man who wrote this! Hell I'm 300lb. at 14% bodyfat right now and I still bulk, so this post should say something to you fellas.

Gram of Test + Anti-E = Great Results (only for experienced, see my post otherwise on how to save money); Diet is key. I love it!!! It's basically everything I stand for in the game!
 
WCP you're just a crackhead juice newbie, everyone knows cutting is the way to go, bulking on large test doses is just BAD!!!!!!!!!
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aky said:


so at 6ft, 180 and 15% you'd recommend i bulk? That was my original plan (on fina(75) and prop(100) ED shots with 1mg l'dex ED) but i started to change my mind...... i dont want to get too sluggish and be out of breath climbing the stairs... this is what happened last time to me at 190.

Contrary to the popular and exagerated belief that you always gain fat while bulking this simply is not true. In fact, if you eat right and traing right your body fat percentage will go down as your lean body mass increases. You won't actually loose fat, but you'll look as though you did and the percentage of fat mass will decrease with an increase in lean body mass weight. It's like spreading the same amount of water over a larger area. It gets shallower and looks like less volume. You're not fat from a health perspective, so there really is no other reason to drop fat other than vanity. It all comes down to your goals. If you want to get bigger then do it. With a clean diet you can gain mass without added fat.
 
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