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why does everyone pick prop for cutting
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You only NEED prop if you are competing because of how quick it gets out of your system. If you are just cutting up to look good for the summer you can use any test with the same results except maybe a touch more water retention. But like I said if you are not competeing it doesn't really matter. I personally hate doing daily injections so I only use the prop for pre-contest. Sustonan is a test cocktail so it will obviously work the same.
wnt2bBeast
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most people are sheep
water retention can be controlled or eliminated through an AI
water retention can be controlled or eliminated through an AI
Gastroc O'Jenkins
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AI = aromatase inhibitors gunz
im cutting on sust now, no water retention with .5mg adex
im cutting on sust now, no water retention with .5mg adex
Makavelli
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I'm using a G of ent right now on a pre contest cycle and I'm not holding any water. I've tried using prop several times, but the swelling is so bad that it cripples me. So now I just use ent. with rimi until 4 weeks out, then I switch to suspension, then drop all test before the show.
Makavelli said:
MAK i heard suspension is worse ( pain wise) than prop. true? different for everyone. also.. leading up to a show u want to use short esters so they can clear right before the show, right. so if your using Enanthate, doesn't it stay in your system for a few months? or do they only get what your blood levels read?
Depends on the suspension..Jurox is the most painful stuff i've ever used but there are some UG labs that are pain free. Becareful though because you run a higher risk of infection if their sterility practices are not on point since it is water based. test E will not be in your system for months. 3-4 weeks after last injection tops.sweed said:
Makavelli
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halfaclue said:
Right. Test ent will usually be out of your system, meaning that physiologically it won't have any detrimental effects, w/in 3 weeks. I cut out the ent. 4 weeks out to be safe. Suspension can be painful, but as stated above it depends on the brand. More people have a problem with prop than susp.
I swear to god bro, virormones are like butter, even less painless than Zambons. Email me if you want to talk about it more....Makavelli said:Either you're a lucky mutha fucka that doesn't get pain from prop and winny, or I need a new source...
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enduser007
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i did use prop once..but it hurt my thighs so bad that I stopped it after 4 shots. It made the layer right underneath my skin so hard and dry, it was tough to get the needle thru it. I stopped the prop and it went away.
halfaclue: why do you say sustonan would be the same. since you're shooting it once a week or even twice a week. the prop levels in your body would be like a roller coaster since its a short-acting ester. cuz you're not injecting it frequent enough to keep the levels same. IF you're injecting it ED or EOD, then it defeats the purpose.
just my .02 buddy.
halfaclue: why do you say sustonan would be the same. since you're shooting it once a week or even twice a week. the prop levels in your body would be like a roller coaster since its a short-acting ester. cuz you're not injecting it frequent enough to keep the levels same. IF you're injecting it ED or EOD, then it defeats the purpose.
just my .02 buddy.
Makavelli
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enduser007 said:
I believe he's saying that test is test. As long as you keep steady blood levels, there's no difference, whether you're using prop, susp, ent, cyp, or sust. I recommend injecting sust once a week. It has four esters that pick up where the previous one left off. That's what most people don't realize. Their argument is always "what about the prop?". Most response is "what about the other 3 esters that maintain the blood levels after the prop drops off?".
I dont understand why this is so hard for people to understand. This post should be a sticky too. Sust was invented to keep steadier blood levels with less frequent injections. Im sick of hearing "Well, to make good use of the prop, inject sust ED or eod... BULLSHIT!Makavelli said:
Thanks Mak. K to you.
Bionic
enduser007 said:
You are correct in props roller coaster but you are looking for with sus is a balance over all.
Prop works right away
Cyp kicks in shortly after
Test E kicks in shortly after cyp
This gives you a pretty much constant supply of test in your blood. the type of test varies but test is test.
terrapin
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What about this instead of Sust?:
Pharmaceutical Name: Andropen
Chemical name: Testosterone Acetate, Testosterone Decanoate, Testosterone
Propionate, Testosterone Phenylpropionate, Testosterone Cypionate
Chem. Abstr. Name:
Molecular formula:
Molecular Weight:
Product Desription:
Andropen is a combination of five of testosterone. The presence of the acetate ester allows andropen to display a rapid initial physiological response. The other four esters, which release at slower rates, prolong the physiological response with a relatively flat absorption curve over the duation of the injection life-cycle. Testosterone is a male sexual hormone with pronounced, mainly androgenic action, possessing the biological and therapeutic properties of the natural hormone. It is normally produced in women in small physiological quantities. In addition to the specific action that determines the sexual characteristics of the individual, testosterone also has a general anabolic action, manifested in enhancement of protein synthesis. Under the effect of testosterone, body weight increases and urea excretion is reduced. High doses suppress the production of hypophyseal gonadotropin, while low doses stimulate it. It has an antitumor effect on mammary gland metastases
Pharmaceutical Name: Andropen
Chemical name: Testosterone Acetate, Testosterone Decanoate, Testosterone
Propionate, Testosterone Phenylpropionate, Testosterone Cypionate
Chem. Abstr. Name:
Molecular formula:
Molecular Weight:
Product Desription:
Andropen is a combination of five of testosterone. The presence of the acetate ester allows andropen to display a rapid initial physiological response. The other four esters, which release at slower rates, prolong the physiological response with a relatively flat absorption curve over the duation of the injection life-cycle. Testosterone is a male sexual hormone with pronounced, mainly androgenic action, possessing the biological and therapeutic properties of the natural hormone. It is normally produced in women in small physiological quantities. In addition to the specific action that determines the sexual characteristics of the individual, testosterone also has a general anabolic action, manifested in enhancement of protein synthesis. Under the effect of testosterone, body weight increases and urea excretion is reduced. High doses suppress the production of hypophyseal gonadotropin, while low doses stimulate it. It has an antitumor effect on mammary gland metastases
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Tux
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Dude, if he had that up he changed it within 30 seconds, he's got the info for Andropen up there now 
Yes that would be a good substitute for sust in theory, as it's a blend of short, medium, and long ester tests. How good it is in reality I don't know, haven't seen anyone use it yet, but if you guys want to send me some I'll bravely and courageously volunteer to try it!
Yes that would be a good substitute for sust in theory, as it's a blend of short, medium, and long ester tests. How good it is in reality I don't know, haven't seen anyone use it yet, but if you guys want to send me some I'll bravely and courageously volunteer to try it!
Still there ...... 16th word after "Product Description:"Tux said:Dude, if he had that up he changed it within 30 seconds, he's got the info for Andropen up there now
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