Y_lifter said:Down here, we call these Never been off pavement vehicles
Pavement Princesses
I agree that they are way over priced for the components, capability and poor mechanical quality.
It's simply stating "I have a Range Rover just like the brits on african safari used to use". "What time is Soccer practice again" ?
I'd rather pay $45 and get a Toyo Land Cruiser or FJ Cruiser
or even $60 for a Hummer H1
jnevin said:The rovers do have very good off road capabilities. I just wouldn't drop $85K on something that will get scratched to hell by rocks and branches.
Frisky said:I need a tank with my driving record...![]()
jnevin said:It wouldn't make it through the a.m. rush hour.

CaliGirl said:ha ha ha!!!! where are you going to get a new H1 alpha for 60K ?????? try 110K (if your lucky) You can get an old used up one for 60K probably beat to shit, and then you have the mechanical issues to deal with...
Y_lifter said:I was talking pre owned on the H1, yes..
Here are two nice 2003's in the 60's
http://www.lynchhummer.com/Pre-ownedpictures.html
Even an H2 would be better than a RR IMO for off roading capability..
Y_lifter said:I was talking pre owned on the H1, yes..
Here are two nice 2003's in the 60's
http://www.lynchhummer.com/Pre-ownedpictures.html
Even an H2 would be better than a RR IMO for off roading capability..
Y_lifter said:Agreed that buying anything used without knowing what to look for or look at
can be bad, especially with a truck or 4x4.
Hence, Most people that don't know what to look for buy new
or get screwed.
That white 2003 H1 with the loaded out leather looked real nice on the outside.
You would need to verify the suspension components mostly and look for water
damage, even though those things sometimes have a snorkel
alien amp pharm said:I see tons of middle aged trophy wives driving large expensive SUV's yacking on the phone while little Timmy and Melinda watch a dvd in the back seat.
Their 4X4 is shinny and clean and has never even been put in 4wheel drive.
They are usually riding in the passing lane at inconsistent speeds or tailgating cars.
I want to put a 9MM in their head.
jnevin said:I see, only a redneck that tows shit can own a truck. No just buying a car because you like it, it needs function. Sounds like caligirl rallies her trucks, btw.
Ludendorf said:never saw the point in owning a truck if you don't use it for what it's made for.
poser'ish, trying to be a tough guy/gal
jnevin said:Lol. That's about as highschool as anything I've ever heard.
rnch said:again i say.............to spend Big Bucks for a rugged off road vehicle and have to suffer with all the electrical and mechanical gremlims that LR'S foist off on the unsuspecting american buying public......what's wrong with buying a well built, reliable toyota/lexus?
Ludendorf said:sounds like you are guilty of the same offense.
i just lol at city peeps trying to be all rugged and countryish
jnevin said:How? And lol at the bumpkin that doesn't realize that a city person can pull a boat to the mtns or may want 4wd to go up canyons to ski. It's got nothing to do with wanting to look country for most. I doubt they'd want people to think they're simpletons.
Ludendorf said:well then their you go, if you have something to tow makes sense to have a vehicle that can do it.
i'm just sick of fatty detroit vacationing peeps with their suvs and disregard for others while driving
lol @ buying 4wd for a once a yr ski trip.
i don't like having to have a 4wd...costs a lot, makes the veh heavier, reduces economy. but it is a necessity for my locale. i don't understand why you would want it if you don't require it
curling said:90k? Are they crazy you can get a Porshe SUV for that much(which I think is a ripoff too) with more HP why do the Range Rovers cost so much?
according to JD power and MILLIONS of satisfied owners; toyota/lexus makes the highest quality vehicles. period. for YEARS.Ludendorf said:according to JD power, toyota is leading the industry in recalls right now.
might want to rethink things
rnch said:according to JD power and MILLIONS of satisfied owners; toyota/lexus makes the highest quality vehicles. period. for YEARS.
your line of "reasoning" is akin to condemming a blue chip stock because of a temporary blip in the stock market.
curling said:90k? Are they crazy you can get a Porshe SUV for that much(which I think is a ripoff too) with more HP why do the Range Rovers cost so much?
deco said:Plus servicing that thing is out fucking rageous. Can't even get rid of it anymore and it's only 01
CaliGirl said:Ludendorf, jealousy is unbecoming of a man. to each his own.
rnch said:according to JD power and MILLIONS of satisfied owners; toyota/lexus makes the highest quality vehicles. period. for YEARS.
your line of "reasoning" is akin to condemming a blue chip stock because of a temporary blip in the stock market.
CaliGirl said:yeah, I noticed that RR don't hold thier value. I have seen some 2002 and 3's for on lots here in the 30's...? why?
deco said:Cause warranty expires and after 40k-50k miles you're car turns into a cry baby. On top of that it starts leaking oil like there's no tommorow
ludendork, ludendork.....your reply makes NO sense and reeks of the jealousy caligirl already called u out on.Ludendorf said:to stoop to your hickish level:
ford's problems are just a temp blip
now go and drive your miata around the garabage of no
rnch said:ludendork, ludendork.....your reply makes NO sense and reeks of the jealousy caligirl already called u out on.![]()
rnch said:according to JD power and MILLIONS of satisfied owners; toyota/lexus makes the highest quality vehicles. period. for YEARS.
your line of "reasoning" is akin to condemming a blue chip stock because of a temporary blip in the stock market.
Mr. dB said:# of recalls does not correlate to reliability in any way.
take a hike, you UP hozer!Ludendorf said:lol @ you
why would i be jealous? explain that to me.
i drive a similiar make of truck as she does, so that's not it
maybe i'm jealous of her boobies? i dunno
and trust me bor, I'm jealous of no one living in the shithole that is NO
Y_lifter said:It's more an indicator of poor design...
But Poor design habits can lead to lower reliability..
Vicious circle..
Also keep in mind that Toyota has become the #2 in volume sales.
So a higher number of vehicles may mean an increase in number of recalls but the same if not lower percentage of the whole.
Mr. dB said:It can also mean that the manufacturer has a very cautious legal department.
All designs have correctible flaws. Do you really feel more confident with a manufacturer who fails to acknowledge or correct them?
rnch said:take a hike, you UP hozer!![]()
HeatherRae said:good question. Status symbols? I personally think that people who have to have a fancy SUV as a status symbol even though they live in suburbia USA are annoying. I mean, since when must spoiled children have a playstation, movies and all their toys with them just to shut up and behave in the car? LOL. I mean isn't the purpose of SUV's for off-roading or tough terrains? Don't get me started. ;-)
you.hanselthecaretaker said:I'd take a jeep over a range/land rover any day.
hanselthecaretaker said:omg Iyou.
hanselthecaretaker said:I'd take a jeep over a range/land rover any day.
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