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Why do people "Wannabe" Native American?

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Why do non-Indian people "Wanna be" Indian? It's strikingly bizarre: people who dabble and hobby-play with Indian religious beliefs and ceremonies (without any authentic training, and even by paying huge amounts to attend new-age weekend retreats and buy new-age "Indian spirituality" workbooks). And if I meet one more person who swears,

"My great-grandmother was full-blooded Cherokee"

...usually followed with a version of:

"...But she never reported it so she's not on the rolls and we can't prove it/but the courthouse with her records in it burned down so we can't prove it/but our family never talked about it and I'm trying to research it back, but we can't prove it/you can *really* tell in the old pictures of her but we can't prove it..."

...I'm gonna scream. I'm beginning to suspect there was never an actual Cherokee nation, only a bunch of great-grandmothers (most of them "Princesses," at that!).

I seldom hear people invent a contrived "my great-grandmother was full-blooded Black" heritage; just Indian. It is somehow "cool?" Does it make people feel "exotic" or less ordinary? Less guilty? Entitled to something? Somehow more profoundly spiritual? Culturally "dangerous" in an exciting way? Is it a backlash reaction against being just another middle-class suburban white guy (or gal) who mows the grass and eats at Burger King?

Seriously, what's going on?
 
smokinghawk said:
I seldom hear people invent a contrived "my great-grandmother was full-blooded Black" heritage
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Dosent Citrus say this?
 
Often, Indians (not calling anyone "native American" b/c there is no such thing, Indians came from northern Asia) get benefits like free college, government shit, etc.
 
Really Ranger? So I guess you must be the bottom.
Whats his name, Abdul?
 
Smoking Hawk - I can relate to this, majority of people say "Cherokee" as well because the don't know anything else to lie about. peace
 
I don't see why Indians get free shit and don't pay taxes.

Same with the poor.

Fuck the handouts!!!!

-Warik
 
My great grandmother ran the hotel on an Indian Reservation but she was Swiss....does that count???

SH - I have no idea. Maybe some of them should take a trip to one of the reservations in the midwest and see the state of the Nation, wonder if they would think it was so romantic then???
 
I am 1/16 Cherokee and I feel very exotic and less ordinary for it.

My Great Great Grandmother was full-blooded Cherokee, making my Great Grandmother 1/2 Cherokee, my Grandfather 1/4 Cherokee, my Mother 1/8 Cherokee, and me 1/16 Cherokee.

I am trying to get reparations from the US Government because I am part Indian. I deserve them because I am a princess. It says so on the bottom of the sweatpants I workout in.
 
the best part is, the older indians are revered as being resourceful with there little stone arrow heads, pit houses etc, meanwhile during the same time frame the egyptians were building pyramids and the Sphynx!

Ever wonder why indians cannot spring $1.79 for a fucking toothbrush? This tripe in AZ charges $20,000 to hunt elk on the reservation for one hunt, and i have talked to the guides and not one of them had more than 5 teeth in their heads.
 
"My great-grandmother was full-blooded Cherokee"

...usually followed with a version of:

"...But she never reported it so she's not on the rolls and we can't prove it/but the courthouse with her records in it burned down so we can't prove it/but our family never talked about it and I'm trying to research it back, but we can't prove it/you can *really* tell in the old pictures of her but we can't prove it..."

...I'm gonna scream. I'm beginning to suspect there was never an actual Cherokee nation, only a bunch of great-grandmothers (most of them "Princesses," at that!). "

THAT IS TRULLY FUNNY!!!!! BWHAHAHAHAAA
 
I am a Second Generation American
My grandmother was full-blooded Cherokee and I have Pictures to prove it.

I don't brag about it, but at least when people start talking the "go back to where you came from" crap, 1/4 of me can smile.
 
Second to the Civil War and Slavery,
IMO the way the Native American Population was treated by the US Govt is one of our darkest areas of US History.

Read up on it..
Sure they killed Women and Children Settlers.

Imagine if Mexican or Canadians just started building homes in Texas or New York...
They when you got upset about it, they shipped the residents off to some god forsaken craphole like Detroit.
 
BeefyBull said:
Often, Indians (not calling anyone "native American" b/c there is no such thing, Indians came from northern Asia) get benefits like free college, government shit, etc.
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We do??? Are you sure? Even tribally-run colleges aren't free. We DO get health care (inferior, understaffed, and often hundreds of miles away from anywhere you might live). Where are all these "Freebies" I keep hearing about?
 
Warik said:
I don't see why Indians get free shit and don't pay taxes.

Same with the poor.

Fuck the handouts!!!!

-Warik
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Uh, dude, you need to check your stereotypes. We DO pay taxes. We pay every bit of the full income tax YOU do (federal AND state), and sales tax, too. The only exception is when certain taxed items (i.e., cigarettes) are sold on Indian land where state taxes on the items--not on the people buying them--don't apply, and ANYONE (Indian or non-Indian) can buy from those outlets and receive that discount.

Here are some of the other "handouts" we get:

100% of all nuclear waste stored off-site is located on Indian land, usually without tribal consent (the Goshiute and Mescalero Apaches are the only tribes that have consented). 100% of uranium mines during the 1970's were on Indian land, where several hundred thousand TONS of uranium tailings waste are still heaped on riverbeds and beside our housing. I toured reservations across the U.S. and took photos myself.

Cyanide lagoons from golds mines are located on Indian lands because the Federal government doesn't have to enforce environmental laws there, or pay mining royalties. Montana, Idaho, Colorado, and Nevada tribes have water contaminated with mercury, cadmium, and cyanide traces because of this.

Covert sterilization of tens of thousands of Indian women in government health clinics during the 1970's, done without the knowledge or consent of those women. Only halted when Congress investigated the problem after documents were stolen form the BIA occupation. Now a matter of public record.

5,000 more laws regulating Indians than non-Indians.

Water stolen by dams, and then sold back to us or withheld unless tribes consent to logging or dumping leases. (Reagan authorized the Army Corps of Engineers to dam the Paiute's only fresh water supply, using the Paiute's own money (without their consent), and then used the drought to blackmail the tribes into buying the water back fro the ACE *and* approving oil leases. That's just one example of dozens).

Deliberate exposure of the Shoshones of Nevada to radiation releases as an experiment to test the effects of radiation on the thyroid, during the 1980's.

Violation of all 371 treaties.

Laws requiring that all tribal accounts must be held in Federal trusts, and that Indian land cannot be used as collateral for loans to start businesses. Then we find out that $400 BILLION of our money has vanished from our own Federal bank accounts, replaced with a $40 MILLION reimbursement authorized by Clinton. When we sue to demand accountability for our stolen money (while the populaytion complains about all the "Free stuff" we get and wonder how we got "poor"), U.S. Federal Courts hold Interior Secry's Babbit and Norton in contempt for hiding the documents that identify how the money was taken, and where it was spent.

Want some of these "free handouts?"

Seems like YOUR nation got a lot of "free handouts" from us, culminating in a $400 billion cash grab right from our bank accounts.

No, nobody ever wants these situations. They just want dreamcatchers, Cherokee great-grandmothers, and fake ceremonies to feel special.
 
smokinghawk said:
Why do non-Indian people "Wanna be" Indian? It's strikingly bizarre: people who dabble and hobby-play with Indian religious beliefs and ceremonies (without any authentic training, and even by paying huge amounts to attend new-age weekend retreats and buy new-age "Indian spirituality" workbooks). And if I meet one more person who swears,

"My great-grandmother was full-blooded Cherokee"

...usually followed with a version of:

"...But she never reported it so she's not on the rolls and we can't prove it/but the courthouse with her records in it burned down so we can't prove it/but our family never talked about it and I'm trying to research it back, but we can't prove it/you can *really* tell in the old pictures of her but we can't prove it..."

...I'm gonna scream. I'm beginning to suspect there was never an actual Cherokee nation, only a bunch of great-grandmothers (most of them "Princesses," at that!).

I seldom hear people invent a contrived "my great-grandmother was full-blooded Black" heritage; just Indian. It is somehow "cool?" Does it make people feel "exotic" or less ordinary? Less guilty? Entitled to something? Somehow more profoundly spiritual? Culturally "dangerous" in an exciting way? Is it a backlash reaction against being just another middle-class suburban white guy (or gal) who mows the grass and eats at Burger King?

Seriously, what's going on?
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LOL. Well, my mother says that her grandmother was half Cherokee Indian. I have seen the pictures and she does look it.
 
The anwser is simple. Many white people are idiotic sheep. It is *very* cool to be a minority these days and since most white people have ZERO respect for themselves they will try to denounce their race and become a minority at any cost. God put most white people on this earth as a joke. They are clowns, just laugh at them and be on your way.
 
why ? cause this way they think they might avoid taxes. Honestly, I dont have any indian blood, just some jew blood...
 
Re: Re: Why do people "Wannabe" Native American?

IanStuart said:
The anwser is simple. Many white people are idiotic sheep. It is *very* cool to be a minority these days and since most white people have ZERO respect for themselves they will try to denounce their race and become a minority at any cost. God put most white people on this earth as a joke. They are clowns, just laugh at them and be on your way.
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Wow, such great wisdom you have. Will you run for office so I can vote for you?
 
smokinghawk said:
Uh, dude, you need to check your stereotypes. We DO pay taxes. We pay every bit of the full income tax YOU do (federal AND state), and sales tax, too. The only exception is when certain taxed items (i.e., cigarettes) are sold on Indian land where state taxes on the items--not on the people buying them--don't apply, and ANYONE (Indian or non-Indian) can buy from those outlets and receive that discount.

Here are some of the other "handouts" we get:
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GREAT reply!
It's a common misconception that Native People "get" things.
As the above knowledgeable member knows, we get a lot of ONE thing "free"...it's called "the shaft".
I get weary of hearing how "injuns are sure getting rich off those casinos". BULL!
Checks average less than $4000 twice a year from a Harrah's casino, & that's headed for the sewer as the economy declines. Small price for every inch of ground the casinos & cities & towns sit on, V (yes)?
"Free" health care? Define "health" & "care"! Through the great "health care", there have been hundreds of thousands of covert sterilizations of child-bearing Natives. I know one Tribe that estimates it will take them more than 100 years to recover from the decimation the ILLEGAL sterilizations had on their women!
Guinea Pig Central SHOULD be the new name of our "health care".
No, Natives know, if you REALLY want health, or care, go outside the system!

Look at the stats the Feds themselves put out. Who's the poorest in America? Native People!

What other race has to REGISTER, has to PROVE they are who they say they are?
What other race has a BLOOD QUANTUM that can mean your grandchild can never be a "member" of your own Tribe if his mom marries outside the Tribe?
What other race's lands & finances are almost completely controlled by one "branch" of government, who has the power to lease said lands for 99 years at a time to coal companies, mining companies, ranchers, whoever wants dibs?
What other race was NOT allowed American Citizenship until 1924, & was NOT allowed a vote until 1948?
Let me think...oh, yeah, NO other race!

The Hollywood & New Age image of the "noble savage" is as ludicrous as it comes.
The difference between REAL Native life & what you read about or see on TV & the big screen is beyond the difference between day & night.

I would invite anyone who "wants to be Indian" to spend just one summer or one winter on a "reservation" like Pine Ridge, just ONE. Even on the most "modern" rez, you WILL learn what it means to LIVE "Indian".

Philip Deloria's book PLAYING INDIAN , & his dad's books (Vine Deloria, Jr) Custer Died for Your Sins & God is Red , would give non-Natives good insight, IF they could read the books all the way through without ripping them apart.
~I;-)
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Fast Twitch Fiber said:
I've never heard anyone making such claims.
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Really? WOW! You haven't seen all the NEW AGE books written by fake "Indians" that promise to "guide" non-Natives into the "spirit realm" so they can "become" "indian"?
You haven't seen "medicine cards"?

It's a multi-BILLION dollar industry!

You haven't seen whites dressed as "indians" gathering at 'seminars' & weekend retreats, sweat lodges, astroturf dance grounds, banging on their hand drums & whooping it up?
You haven't seen the ads for "indian psychics"? Or "shamans", which is NOT a word n any Native American language?
You haven't read the numerous articles of how the REAL Tribes are battling in courts every day to stop the FAKE tribes & FAKE "indians" who are selling all those books & CDs, etc, from committing CULTURAL GENOCIDE?

You haven't seen the Wannabes who claim to be eastern, or woodland "indians" but who wear those hot pink, turquoise headdresses that only PLAINS Tribes used? Nor seen the teepees in the east?

Lucky man!
 
beefybull said:
Often, Indians (not calling anyone "native American" b/c there is no such thing, Indians came from northern Asia) get benefits like free college, government shit, etc.
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Now THAT statement is really some "BEEFY BULL"!

I never figured out why whites think this way!
Maybe because they just don't go to the REAL Tribes & ASK?

Look at the Federal stats. Native People are classified as THE poorest in America!
About the ONLY "free" things Natives get are jack & squat.

Go to any "reservation" & hang out for more than a week! Talk to the PEOPLE.
Get back to us.
 
Wow. Thank you so much for bumping this awesome 7 year old thread. Good thing the members you're replying to don't post here anymore.
 
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