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Why Commericial Gyms SUCK ASS! (my must read article.)

Illuminati

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I posted this on the PL forum, but thought that mabye some of you guys here would enjoy reading it....



Ok, so I just moved across country (from Maine to Oregon) and I was looking for a gym. Right across the street from where I live is a place called 24hr Fitness. It was the only place that I could find in the area, so I decided to go and check it out to see what the place was all about. I go in, tell the girl behind the counter that I am interested in a membership, and that I would like to take a look at the gym. She pages some guy, and tells me to have a seat, and he will be right there. So I wait for about 15 minutes. My frustration is steadily growing. I go back to the counter, and ask her again. She pages the guy again, and assures me that he is going to be there soon to show me the gym, and tell me about it. 10 more minutes go by, and I am getting pissed, but he finally shows up. So I figure, what the hell, lets talk to this guy. He starts giving me the low down on the gym. I tell him I really dont care about how many treadmills they have, or how many eliptical machines they have, or the fact that they have 1 Billion nautilus equipment machines. I tell him all that I am interested in is the free weight room, and that is what I want to look at. so he takes me upstairs, up 30 steps to be exact to the free weight room, thinking to myself "this ought to be great after a serious ME squat/deadlift day."
He shows me the free weight section. Let me take a second to describe it...on one side of the room there are 3 flat benches, 1 incline bench, and 1 decline bench, 1 Power Rack, another squat rack, and maybe, I say maybe, 2000lbs of weights. in the middle of the room, there is located there 1million nautilus machines, he even points out to me that they have "color coded the equipment so that I will know what equipment works what. the chest machines are black, the shoulder stuff it pink...." All the way on the other side of the room from the benches and power rack (about 50ft. away) are all the db's. granted the db's were decent set (from 5-125lb db's).
he shows me the rest of the gym (the locker room, pool, sauna, hot tub, steam room...) and they sits me down to discuss the membership price. i should back up and tell you that this guy explains to me that his job is the equivalent of a car salesman, only he sells memberships.
So I thinking to myself, this place could be alright, I wonder what is is gonna cost. So he is giving me his pitch, flips the page in his little book, and shows me the membership price....$1700 FOR A YEAR! I shit my pants when he showed me that, and I could tell he knew it, because of the foul look on my face.
I said to him "are you serious?"
He says "well it comes with 20 free visits with a Personal Trainer."
I tell him "I'm not interested in speaking with a trainer, because 99% of them aren't gonna tell me anything that I dont already know."
"well, all of the trainers hold at least 3 certifications....blah,blah, blah."
"I really dont care."
"well, if that is too much for you, we have another plan." He flips the page in his little book, and shows it to me.
Again, I shit my pants. "You mean to tell me, that you want $350 for an enrollment fee, $70 for (I can't remember now what the $70 was for) and then $40 a month?!?"
"yeah. that is our only other plan."
"so what you are telling me, is that in order to get a membership on a monthly basis, I have to give you $460 up front?"
"hold on, let me add this all up," he says to me. He grabs his calculator, adds all the numbers up, and then says "it will come to around $506."
by this time there is a mound of shit on the floor because I shit my pants again. "where do you get $506?"
"Oh, you have to pay for your first and last months membership."
in bewilderment, i tell him "sorry. I could build my own gym for what you guys want to charge. this is outrageous. I think i will find somewhere else to go."
"how bout i give you free 3 day membership, you check the gym out, and if you like it, we can get you signed up?"
"sure whatever," i figure i could at least get 3 days of lifting for free.

So i get my membership, and decide to go back that night. that day, being monday, i was doing a ME squat/deadlift day (i have modified my WSB). I walk in with my 15x15x15 inch box made out of plywood, my bands, belt, gym bag...the girl behind the counter looks at me, rolls her eyes and lets me in.
I go up to the squat rack, and start setting up. I get the green bands attached to the rack, set my box up, and start box squatting. 4 "trainers" come over to me. "what are you doing? dont you know that box squatting is bad for you back, it puts your spine...."
to avoid the arguement, i tell them "yeah, i know." shake my head at them, and then do anothe set. they are still standing there.
"its unsafe to attach those rubber bands to the bar like that, what if they break?"
"well that is the chance that I will take." i shake my head, get back under the bar, and do another set.
at this point, they start to back away. i think they realized that I wasn't going to listen to them, and they left, but watched me from afar.
after squatting, i set the bands up, and did speed pulls, with band tension.
i was feeling pretty spent, so i decided that i would do some curls, some weighted ab work, and get out of there. so I make my journey across the 50ft room to the db section of the gym. do my curls, and then on to my weighted ab work. i grab one of their little mats so that i wouldn't leave a huge sweat mark on the floor, put the mat down, and then go to move a bench out of the way so that i would have a little more space. but the Fing bench won't budge. so i pull on it a little harder, and it still doesn't move. I'm pissed, and thinking WTF! So i pull on the bench with all that i got, and finally, come to realize that the thing isn't gonna move. I look down at the thing, and notice that the bench is bolted to the ground! no wonder the thing wouldn't move. so i do my ab work, and get out of there.
I go back today, (Tuesday) and its my DE Bench day. so i start to get set up on the bench for band presses. I go to do some warm up sets w/o the bands. i get under the bar, and immediately notice 2 things wrong. the hooks on the bench weren't adjustable, and I had a hard time unracking the weight because the hooks were too high. the only other hooks on the bench were at just about chest level. second thing I notice, is that the bar isn't regulation. the rings on the bar were only about 28 inches apart. no point in trying to get my hands at 32inches apart, because the hooks holding the bar wouldn't allow me to. ( the hooks were about 38 inches apart, my hands are big, and I couldn't get a hold of the bar.) so i think to myself, at least this is a DE day, and I'm not maxing out. i thought about setting up in the power rack, and doing my bench in there. Great idea, minus the fact that all of the benches are bolted to the ground! there goes that idea. so i decide to make due. I get done my warm up sets, and start to get ready to add the bands. I recently broke my mini's while pulling them out of my pile of stuff, they were under my chain, they were old and worn, and one of them broke. so i had to use the lights (the purple jumpstretch bands.) so i walk through the maze of nautilus machines to the other side of the gym (50ft away) and grab the 85lb db's, thinking to myself, this is going to be fun. i pick them up, and then go over the river and through the woods, to the bench that i was working on. i drop the db's on the floor, and it echoed throughout the entire place. I got some angry stares. I can only imagine what it would be like when I deadlift, and do a controlled drop with 500+ lbs. i would probably have to pay to put a new floor in.

what a pain in the ass. i dont think that i could have had a worse experience at a gym. maybe i could have made it work if it hadn't been for the fact that the facility sucked ass, didn't accomodate serious lifters, didn't bolt all of their equipment to the ground, didn't have 1 million nautilus machines, didn't put the db's on the other side of the gym from the benches, didn't have only 1 power rack and most of all, DIDN'T CHARGE $1700 FOR A ONE YEAR MEMBERSHIP. well, i guess on the plus side, I would have gotten 20 free visit with a personal trainer, who wouldn't be able to tell me anything about powerlifting, WSB, or have a clue who Louie Simmons is.
 
Wow, good story, lol I can;t believe the 1700 for a membership. Do they think you're going to walk out of the gym with one of the benches or something? What's the point of bolting them to the floor. I would have loved to hear what happened if you did do a big deadlift.

Good luck on finding another gym in your area.
 
i was told there is a place called Jungle Gym in Portland (im in oregon.) i guess its a pretty hardcore gym that caters a little better to powerlifters. i am going to make my way there sometime today, and see what's up with it.

djeclipse said:
Wow, good story, lol I can;t believe the 1700 for a membership. Do they think you're going to walk out of the gym with one of the benches or something? What's the point of bolting them to the floor. I would have loved to hear what happened if you did do a big deadlift.

Good luck on finding another gym in your area.
 
Sad to say, I started at 24hr and got ripped off :-(. They HATE deadlifts, most people will try to stop you from doing squats, and the benches will always be full. The Golds Gym I go to now isn't bad, but still full of college idiots. Oh, and you are correct, the personal trainers are worthless, I knew more going in before my first lift then they ever taught me. Glad I only used the 1 free visit with him.

Aside from that, the location I went to was a lot better, much bigger free weight room, and DB's had a seperate set of benches/inclines/etc to use.
 
Nice tread mate but listen to this!

I would have paid every penny for that gym because a 24 hour place RIGHT ACROSS THE ROAD is heaven compared with absolutely fuck all in London.

I finish work at 19:00-20:30 and have to be in before 08:00.

Nowhere is open except for one gym 45 mins journey away that sounds like a romper room compared to your place! It has ust a bar and bench (no rack, DB up to 75lbs, and no dedicated lifing area for things like barbells). It charges $300 membership and $70 a month too.
 
Ouch, lifting overseas is more difficult than I imagined.....yet oddly enough Americans are still fat and lazy.....wonder if we'll ever run out of excuses as to why "we're not ripped like I was 5 yrs ago".
 
Haha I used to live in Portland until recently and belonged to 24 Fitness. I went to the one on Broadway occasionally but mostly went to the one across the river in Vancouver, which was actually decent. They had 2 power racks and 2 squat racks and a lifting platform with rubber plates and all.

A friend of mine told me the trainers there now wear bright yellow shirts that say 'Ask me how!' on the back.

I don't remember any good gyms in the area unfortunately, since 24 F was good enough for me :mix:
 
I guess I am spoiled over here.

My gym, the one about 15min drive from my house (the one closer to my house sucks) has 1 squat rack, 2 power racks, 3 bench press benches and dimbells from 5lbs to somethign like 150, and trpples of the very low weights (5-35lbs), doubles of the middle weights (40-100). There are also a few hard core powerifters working out there (that actually compete).

All this for 35.00 a month and you're not ging to believe where I am... the Y.M C.A. I guess I am lucky.
 
Damn a YMCA with all that?

That sucks the benches were bolted to the ground. What idiot designed that place with the DBs on the other side of the gym????

I go the chain "(insert city's name here) Sports Club". They have them all over the Mid-Atlantic. Actually have a ton of REALLY nice equipment, and nobody really uses the racks (2 racks, and 3 Smiths). Some guys will crowd the DB section with the MOVEABLE benches, but the majority of people are on the 1478586359 treadmills and ellipticals. It's great b/c the cardio and machines are on the complete other side of the gym, no interaction. And the trainers all wear matching bright uniforms, all tan and shit, and yes, they are idiots. Little expensive tho.
 
vin01 said:
Damn a YMCA with all that?

ya, they built a huge one here, it has 2 pool, squash courts, a gym for basketball etc. it's called the Walker YMCA, some rich dude probably needed to spend some money as a tax write off. It also has 2 smith machines and a shit load of tread mills, eliptical machines, bikes, a seperate room for a spinning class and those rowing machines.

they did the same thing with the weight room, they put all the heavy weights furthest away from the rest of the gym and mirrors to seperate the so no one will see us. I love it. unfortunately it still attracts the typical morons.

After reading about some of these gym set up's I think I am lucky.

And then a few years later the same guy/owner opened another big Y.M.C.A. in my city but they really screwed up with the weight area. Thet spent themoney on those rupper plates but only got one bench, one squat rack etc.
 
I used to work at a place similar to 24 hr, but they were more lenient about PL/OLY stuff. Thye even had a DL platform and boxes for box squats. For the most part the members were upper-middle class treadmill trotters, but my GOD there were so many amazingly hot women there. That's the only thing I really miss about the place.

The funniest thing was they had a machine called the "Butt Blaster" and it was ~5 feet away from the men's locker room entrance (directly forward of it), so every time you came out you got a nice shot of some spandex clad hottie shoving her leg up in the air. Good times.
 
i hear ya on that. one of the best gyms that i have ever lifted at was the Local Y back in my home town

djeclipse said:
I guess I am spoiled over here.

My gym, the one about 15min drive from my house (the one closer to my house sucks) has 1 squat rack, 2 power racks, 3 bench press benches and dimbells from 5lbs to somethign like 150, and trpples of the very low weights (5-35lbs), doubles of the middle weights (40-100). There are also a few hard core powerifters working out there (that actually compete).

All this for 35.00 a month and you're not ging to believe where I am... the Y.M C.A. I guess I am lucky.
 
Hmm I feel lucky after reading this thread.

I go to Gold's here in Madison, TN (near nashville), they have 4 dedicated benchs, 2 incline, 1 decline.

2 racks of dumbells on opposite sides of the gym both with their own sets of benches from 5-150lb.

Only 2 racks tho, 2 smith racks, and a sea of cardio and nautilus stuff.

All for $25/mo no signup fee, I did get 3 free months with a personal trainer at 1x a week for free through work. He was actually exceptionally knowledgeable and was showing me some shoulder routines from Charles Glass. We are good friends now even though I didn't continue to use the trainer services he still BSes with me everyday I see him.
 
I pay $100 a year at 24 hour fitness. I got in when the company had just started and was hurting for money, paid $700 up front and $100/year as long as I kept renewing the contract. I guess they expect most people to be out within two years, I've had my membership for almost seven-years now. So, I've paid ~$1400 over seven years which comes to just under $17 a month. And considering the monthly cost is monotonically decreasing towards $8.33 it's a pretty sweet deal. I think my college gym was like $20/month for alumni.

I've never had anyone tell me not to deadlift or squat. I do go to another 24hr sometimes though that has a sign that says no deadlifting, but I've done deadlifts pretty much everytime I've gone there and never been contested. I haven't done any Westside style lifting in a while, but a couple years back I did some band and chain work, and I got a lot of people asking me what I was doing, but never had anyone tell me to stop.

Overall, I can't complain. I can't believe that anyone would pay $1700 a year for membership fees. The salesman that was trying to sell you on those memberships was shitty, I know for a fact that they have at least ten different payment plans all of differing cost and usage arrangements. One thing I've found with 24hr is that the quality of their gyms is very inconsistent. Some are really nice with everything I want, new/good equipment and others suck ass. I'm fortunate enough to live near probably the nicest one I've ever been to(Quality of scenery(T&A) is very high too). However, occasionaly I stay at my Aunt and Uncle's house and the one near them is a piece of crap.
 
All this for 35.00 a month and you're not ging to believe where I am... the Y.M C.A. I guess I am lucky.

I also work out at the Y.M.C.A and for the price its not really that bad ($18 a month) they have 2 dedicated benches and 2 sets of dbs from 1 - 130lbs. and every other piece of upper body equipment i can think. The only problem with it is they only have 1 squat rack besides the smith which i hate and one leg press and a few other things. Its not all that much and was fine untell after new years! Now you can't get on a machine because all of these idiots coming in there and thinking there gona get buff in a week or 2. I just hope they all leave soon, if not ill have to go to another gym called fitness connection. I heard it is awesome there and they are about to put 24 hour out of business there used to be about 200 cars at 24 hour and tonight i saw 2 on my way to the Y since they built fitness connection. It is only 24 a month with no beginning fees and the place is huge never been inside though, but i heard its almost all free weights. Oh yeah the YMCA has no physical trainers except one which is kinda cool, but i know alot more than him about lifting so no problems there!
 
I decided to work some math (I'm a nerd). Those "free" training sessions were $39.70 each, unless there were other benefits that haven't been mentioned.
 
Guinness5.0 said:
The funniest thing was they had a machine called the "Butt Blaster" and it was ~5 feet away from the men's locker room entrance (directly forward of it), so every time you came out you got a nice shot of some spandex clad hottie shoving her leg up in the air. Good times.

BUTT BLASTER?!?!

OMFG! that's hilarious. sorry, but it just gives a mental image of flatulence!
 
you gotta be fucking shitting me. $1700 to lift fucking weights. fuck that. i woulda capped that guy in the face for trying to rob me like that. thanks all that is holy for hardcore gyms. i pay 269.00 a year. small gym, 2 squat racks, which people only use to curl in, 2 benches and a lot of obsolete equipment, but we've got db's that go up to 180lbs. and we drink beer after 9pm.
 
I know exactly what you mean. I always have to find a gym away from home, due to work travel. I can't tell you how many times I have to bargain with someone to workout there. Almost every time they want to tell you why you should be doing more cardio or lifting lighter, and the ones telling you this look like fuckin pencilneck lifting wanna be's. I have had to pay as much as 20 bucks for one workout. Let me tell you, I tried to hit every friggin muscle I could. Had to stop twice to keep from puking. I was ther for about 3 and a half hrs. So, I figure I got my money's worth.
 
The Gold's by my house might be the best deal. All the free weights are in the back (the gym is a restored warehouse). There are 5 walk out racks, 1 Smith, 2 power racks, 4 flat benches, 2 inclines, and 2 declines. Plus they have a load of Hammer Strength machines. They also have 2 sets of dumbells from 5-120lbs. And there are like 12 flat/adjustable benches floating around for dumbell work. There is a whole other section of just machines. It only cost me $27.00, no initiation. Pretty good deal, considering that when the gym is packed, I still don't have to wait because I'm not trying to get on the bicep curl machine or the lat pulldown..
 
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