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Why Arent Guns Illegal In Usa???????

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ya i know it doesnt make machine guns and shit legal but it leads to them guns and look what happens, fuckin 30 people get killed, now tell me does a gun make u feel safe?
 
Wootoom said:
ya i know it doesnt make machine guns and shit legal but it leads to them guns and look what happens, fuckin 30 people get killed, now tell me does a gun make u feel safe?

Yes, I live in New Orleans and I don't want nobody to steal my Heinkens after a hurricane.
 
Wootoom said:
ya i know it doesnt make machine guns and shit legal but it leads to them guns and look what happens, fuckin 30 people get killed, now tell me does a gun make u feel safe?


yes.. very

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Guns will always be on the black market and in the hands of criminals, I rather have one at my side then one pointed in my face with no option except for death .....
 
because even if they were, people that are looking to kill people like this guy will still be able to find a gun regardless. Look how easy it is to buy drugs, guns will still be around no matter if they ban em or not. People are still going to get high, and people are still going to shoot up things.
 
I could give you a lecture about the anti-Cromwellian feelings that influenced the founding father's. You don't want that....
 
events like school shootings make me want to exercise my concealed carry right on campus, not ban guns.
 
why aren't guns illegal in the US? because we aren't nazi germany, communist cuba, communist china, or any other place where the government brutally oppresses the unarmed populace.
 
i dont want guns thats what i dont want, i like the USA, not saying it doesnt happen in Canada but at least there illegal and harder to get
 
javaguru said:
I could give you a lecture about the anti-Cromwellian feelings that influenced the founding father's. You don't want that....

Don't you think the founding fathers had anti-Cromwellian feelings about you putting some draws on?
 
Wootoom said:
i dont want guns thats what i dont want, i like the USA, not saying it doesnt happen in Canada but at least there illegal and harder to get

Ask Manny how illegal they are in Canuckia and the types available there that we can't get here.
 
p0ink said:
why aren't guns illegal in the US? because we aren't nazi germany, communist cuba, communist china, or any other place where the government brutally oppresses the unarmed populace.


A lot of guns were made illegal down here after 1996 and I wouldn't call our government brutally oppressive, although I would call them a bunch of douchebags.

We haven't had any major shit happen here since 1996 as far as I know - gun control worked here, but then we had far fewer guns to begin with.



b0und (low availability of guns makes me feel safer)
 
b0und said:
A lot of guns were made illegal down here after 1996 and I wouldn't call our government brutally oppressive, although I would call them a bunch of douchebags.

We haven't had any major shit happen here since 1996 as far as I know - gun control worked here, but then we had far fewer guns to begin with.



b0und (low availability of guns makes me feel safer)
agreed
 
I don't think that guns are truly the problem with the US gun crime. I think it's the people. I tend to see them as more polarizing and believe in more absolutes rather then shades of gray.
 
Guns dont kill, people kill
I dont have a gun nor do i want one because they make me nervous
My dad is a gun collector, not the machine guns and stuff
but shotguns, pistols and those musket guns
he has a large large collection and has never shot anyone.
Its dumbass people who kill who give gunowners a bad rep
 
lol at thinking a gun at your side will make you safer.

the extra second it will take your deeply ingrained morals to decide if you are actually able to kill a person will get you killed... and then your gun will be one more on the street killing peple

face it, criminals kill people for a living and they don't feel a think about it, you don't

Shotting paper figures ain't the same boy
 
pintoca said:
lol at thinking a gun at your side will make you safer.

the extra second it will take your deeply ingrained morals to decide if you are actually able to kill a person will get you killed... and then your gun will be one more on the street killing peple

face it, criminals kill people for a living and they don't feel a think about it, you don't

Shotting paper figures ain't the same boy



I even if you are reluctant to pull the trigger right away when you get a round thrown into you then you might shoot back. How would it have been if just one of those first 32 hit would have had a CC permit and waxed the dude after he knocked of 5-10 or so. Survival works in a funny way ya know.
 
sfmonster said:
I even if you are reluctant to pull the trigger right away when you get a round thrown into you then you might shoot back. How would it have been if just one of those first 32 hit would have had a CC permit and waxed the dude after he knocked of 5-10 or so. Survival works in a funny way ya know.

agreed, but imagine schools and universities were people are allowed to carry guns...

Imagine what would happen with short-tempered people and their incidents... ever thought "damn, thanks God I didn't have a gun when so and so happened..."
 
The war on drugs certainly helped rid the country of drugs.

Surely the war on guns would help rid the country of murders.

Geniuses! :rolleyes:
 
Wootoom said:
ya i know it doesnt make machine guns and shit legal but it leads to them guns and look what happens, fuckin 30 people get killed, now tell me does a gun make u feel safe?


Having guns be illegal just means people who want to commit crimes and use guns to further that end will just get them on the black market, while people who would rather hunt or have firearms to protect themselves against those that would get the guns irregardless of their legality won't have any recourse.
 
pintoca said:
lol at thinking a gun at your side will make you safer.

the extra second it will take your deeply ingrained morals to decide if you are actually able to kill a person will get you killed... and then your gun will be one more on the street killing peple

face it, criminals kill people for a living and they don't feel a think about it, you don't

Shotting paper figures ain't the same boy

Possibly the dumbest thing ever posted on EF.
 
pintoca said:
agreed, but imagine schools and universities were people are allowed to carry guns...

Imagine what would happen with short-tempered people and their incidents... ever thought "damn, thanks God I didn't have a gun when so and so happened..."
Ohio has C&C, the only legal restrictions are bars and government building.
 
I don't think they should be illegal, I do however think if you use a gun during a crime and injure/kill a person you should get at least 15 years in Prison.

Don't take away the guns, just make the punishments worse. I'd say Catlle Prod them in the Throat for a year straight but hey, we all know that won't happen.
 
Rabid_Goose said:
I don't think they should be illegal, I do however think if you use a gun during a crime and injure/kill a person you should get at least 15 years in Prison.

Don't take away the guns, just make the punishments worse. I'd say Catlle Prod them in the Throat for a year straight but hey, we all know that won't happen.
That has been the trend.
 
I just got my concealed license.. I don't even own a gun.. wtf!?!?!
 
pintoca said:
agreed, but imagine schools and universities were people are allowed to carry guns...

Imagine what would happen with short-tempered people and their incidents... ever thought "damn, thanks God I didn't have a gun when so and so happened..."
Why doesnt this happen in states where the general population is allowed to carry a gun? Surely you can extrapolate that theory to the thousands of people who already carry guns.
I carry a gun and if anything the gun makes me MORE levelheaded because I know I better damn well be in the right if I have to use it. If I brandished it for any stupidass reason I more than likely go to jail. People are told this ad nauseum during the application process for getting a CHL, and its for a good reason.
 
lets put it simply... no other country in the world has arms laws so "relaxed" like in the US (call it as you will, they ARE relaxed).

Most of the time I see this sort of this going down, where is it??? (besides those countries riddled by war where guns are found on the streets)

no matter how you want to paint it, THERE IS a relation between the number of guns on the street (illegal or legal) and the amount of people that dies because of those guns, you can't get around that. Since the guns are not goiung anywhere, you will need to find ways to diminished their effect on your people
 
Wootoom said:
ya i know it doesnt make machine guns and shit legal but it leads to them guns and look what happens, fuckin 30 people get killed, now tell me does a gun make u feel safe?
EVen if they were illegal in all of the U.S., do you think that would stop someone like the shooter at Virginia?? Not likely... A lot of the people who SHOULDN'T have guns, are the ones who have them illegally.
 
b0und said:
A lot of guns were made illegal down here after 1996 and I wouldn't call our government brutally oppressive, although I would call them a bunch of douchebags.

We haven't had any major shit happen here since 1996 as far as I know - gun control worked here, but then we had far fewer guns to begin with.



b0und (low availability of guns makes me feel safer)

you from australia bro?
 
pintoca said:
lets put it simply... no other country in the world has arms laws so "relaxed" like in the US (call it as you will, they ARE relaxed).

Most of the time I see this sort of this going down, where is it??? (besides those countries riddled by war where guns are found on the streets)

no matter how you want to paint it, THERE IS a relation between the number of guns on the street (illegal or legal) and the amount of people that dies because of those guns, you can't get around that. Since the guns are not goiung anywhere, you will need to find ways to diminished their effect on your people

and how many times has our country been invaded, taken over, or ruled by a murderous tyrant or dictator? hmm...

i can't remember, but i think that has happened a few times in many other countries...right? :rolleyes:
 
LOL... i really find this funny,...

most murders that are commited by firearms are by people that have them illegaly. (and trust me its really easy to find them illegally... easier to get them that way than the right way)

I owned (i got rid of it) a Ruger 45 and a shit load of hollow pt shells when I was single and in the middle of bum fuck country town. Why did I own such? Well, I really enjoyed going to the range and shooting... as sport. Also, for protection... And believe me, if someone were to come into my home and try to harm my family I would have put the entire 15 rounds in their ass. But would only be able to do it if they were trying to harm my family. Other than that, I owned it for sport.
 
p0ink said:
and how many times has our country been invaded, taken over, or ruled by a murderous tyrant or dictator? hmm...

i can't remember, but i think that has happened a few times in many other countries...right? :rolleyes:

lol, ridiculous. Not even worthy of a response.
 
"the right of the people to keep and bear arms." Second Amendment :)
 
Wootoom said:
fuck guns, pussies use guns

lol


But, there are more illegal guns than you can even imagine. The pussies are those whom use it for intimidation, and acts of violence. I wouldn't call a person whom owns a gun for personal defense or sport a pussy.
 
Frisky said:
lol


But, there are more illegal guns than you can even imagine. The pussies are those whom use it for intimidation, and acts of violence. I wouldn't call a person whom owns a gun for personal defense or sport a pussy.

Therein lies the issue. I've read there are in excess of 50 million illegal handguns floating around the US. That's unreal.
 
Frisky said:
lol


But, there are more illegal guns than you can even imagine. The pussies are those whom use it for intimidation, and acts of violence. I wouldn't call a person whom owns a gun for personal defense or sport a pussy.
i feel like im as big as Arnie with a gun
 
bluepeter said:
lol, ridiculous. Not even worthy of a response.

For once I agree with you.

You know, having allies directly north and south of you helps. Now if only we could construct some sort of barrier between us and the rest of the world. Kind of like a moat, but much much larger. Well fill it full of water and sharks and things... I bet that would make a great deterrent.
 
gjohnson5 said:
I don't believe anyone is being oppressed by not having a handgun. It just means that means of smuggling weapons need to be investigated and policed.

ok, so you would be alright with only certain citizens being allowed to own guns?

what if a politician were to say white people were the only group of people allowed to legally own guns in the us, since they make up the smallest percentage of violent offenders. or what if they said only people making $200,000 a year could legally own a firearm, since they are far less likely to commit a crime versus the impoverished.

would you be alright with that?
 
juiceddreadlocks said:
I really need a different barrel on my glock so I can start shooting wadcutters

I have had too many FTF with my XD and especially my 1911 to use them anymore.


I love how this issue has turned into a guns are bad and should be banned issue.

Haven't see one mention of we need to figure out why people do crazy shit like this and how we can prevent it or help them before they do.

Anyone have any stats on how many people are killed with legal, prescribed drugs every year?
 
Wootoom said:
i dont want guns thats what i dont want, i like the USA, not saying it doesnt happen in Canada but at least there illegal and harder to get

Lol they're legal and easy to get. You just dont happen to know how...

I can buy a brand new Sig 552 or most imported assault rifle here. In the US, they can't except for those imported before 1989 I believe unless most of the rifle is made in the US. I can get (and I own) a PTRS 14.5mm and it isnt restricted. It is in the US since everything over .50 is a destruction device lol There's no 2 days waiting period or whatever they have over there for handguns in the US. I can just go to any gunshop in Mtl and get a Glock right away.
 
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