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Why are "Macs" STILL so expensive??
- Thread starter TC2
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because MAC is a mac. all applications are built in already no need to purchase video editing software.....
video editing software bundles could cost 1000$ for a good set. There is a professional video editing software built into certain macs, which cost 5,000$ if bought without..(Final Cut Pro)
video editing software bundles could cost 1000$ for a good set. There is a professional video editing software built into certain macs, which cost 5,000$ if bought without..(Final Cut Pro)
TC2
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mm107 said:
OK...but the vast majority of people dont need stuff like that.
Why not sell a "stripped down" version so more people will buy your product??
I just want a laptop for surfing the internet wirelessly and I'd like to try a mac, but I'm not dropping a grand when I can buy a cheap laptop for under $500.
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alien amp pharm
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TC2 said:
not to mention some of us would rather *buy* our own software to use.
DieselGunz
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i have a pro and it is an alright laptop, still contemplating if i should go ahead and return it but I am learning how to use it and it deff has some cool shit
mrplunkey
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Several reasons...
1) Apple has economies of scale, but their economies still fall short of a Dell or HP.
2) Apple spends more on "extras" like cases that come together immaculately and higher-quality human interface components (i.e. switches and buttons)
3) Apple offers a larger software bundle (i.e. video editing) with their products.
4) Apple knows their customers are less price-sensitive. While a Dell customer would consider HP based on price, someone dead-set on buying an apple is going to buy an apple.
1) Apple has economies of scale, but their economies still fall short of a Dell or HP.
2) Apple spends more on "extras" like cases that come together immaculately and higher-quality human interface components (i.e. switches and buttons)
3) Apple offers a larger software bundle (i.e. video editing) with their products.
4) Apple knows their customers are less price-sensitive. While a Dell customer would consider HP based on price, someone dead-set on buying an apple is going to buy an apple.
Big Rick Rock
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I was going to go Mac.... Till I realized all the cool software I have for my PC, I would have to buy for the MAC... I just don't have the money to make the switch and buy the software . Between Photoshop, DreamWeaver and FruityLoops, I would be looking a huge chunk of cash.
I'll be in the market for a good PC laptop in the next couple of months, not quite sure what I want yet.
I was looking into the AlienWare "Area 51" laptops, Not sure yet though.
-BRR
I'll be in the market for a good PC laptop in the next couple of months, not quite sure what I want yet.
I was looking into the AlienWare "Area 51" laptops, Not sure yet though.
-BRR
patsfan1379
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Its the difference between a beamer and a chevy.
TC2
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patsfan1379 said:
That mmay well be, but as my case I already have a good fast pc with all the sofware I will prabably ever need.
I just would like a notebook for broswing the internet wirelessly,streaming movies,music, etc. and I would like to give mac a try, but not if I'm going to be "forced" to spend extra on a bunch of apps that I'll never use or I already have.
rykertest
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patsfan1379 said:
I can do a lot more with a chevy than a beamer. It all depends on what you want to use it for. Beamers look nice and run smooth and all, but they can't help me get doors home from home depot, or take my dogs home from the lake covered in water and mud. And beamers don't have 4 wheel drive.
Chevy please.
mrplunkey
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I've been a lifetime PC user and I'm 60ish days into my first Mac. There is no comparison between the two. The Mac is zero maintainence, solid as a rock, and incredibly capable. I don't own a single manual... haven't used a single help file... the damn thing just works.
Funny but true -- I now hook things up on the network (i.e. AIW printers, NAS storage) and connect them via Mac first before I start the painful process of configuring its use with PC's.
Funny but true -- I now hook things up on the network (i.e. AIW printers, NAS storage) and connect them via Mac first before I start the painful process of configuring its use with PC's.
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alien amp pharm
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mrplunkey said:
^^^ So easy even a caveman can do it.
Obviously.
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UA_Iron
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I still refuse to use macs
we have a mac lab in my Aerospace and Mechanical engineering building at my school - it makes me so mad. I've told department heads that we should find whoever donated them and give them back.
we have a mac lab in my Aerospace and Mechanical engineering building at my school - it makes me so mad. I've told department heads that we should find whoever donated them and give them back.
mrplunkey
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It took me a few minutes at first to realize the menu bar is up along the very top of the screen instead of attached to the individual windows. It seemed wierd at first, but you get used to it. Now, I actually prefer it because as nifty as it seems to be using 25% of four different windows at the same time, I just don't do that. At most, I'll use a text or powerpoint document and a spreadsheet at the same time -- and a double-duty menu bar works fine for that.rykertest said:
Cause there better then a PC.
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UA_Iron
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superqt4u2nv said:
I disagree.
I challenge you to a wrestling match.
It is so on you bring the jello and I will bring the thong bikiniUA_Iron said:
Cause I say somanny78 said:
A good PC is hard to find a good Mac easy to find.
p0ink
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how are macs easier to use? because their OS is laid out 'nicer' than windows (i highly disagree)?
nothing is easier to use if it requires all proprietary hardware and only runs a very limited about of software, since next to nothing is developed for it compared to PC's
why does 90 % of business use a PC based platform if macs are just oh-so-much better? the only businesses i know which use macs are those in the graphical design business. everyone else on the face of the planet uses PC.
and has anyone here tried upgrading a mac on their own? good fucking luck with that.
macs easier...hah!
nothing is easier to use if it requires all proprietary hardware and only runs a very limited about of software, since next to nothing is developed for it compared to PC's
why does 90 % of business use a PC based platform if macs are just oh-so-much better? the only businesses i know which use macs are those in the graphical design business. everyone else on the face of the planet uses PC.
and has anyone here tried upgrading a mac on their own? good fucking luck with that.
macs easier...hah!
Big Rick Rock
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p0ink said:
Don't forget about the music industry. Any respectable recording studio is running on Mac / ProTools.
-BRR
mrplunkey
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I recently added 1GB of memory to my Mac Pro faster that anyone could have taken the case off a PC. I was incredibly impressed.p0ink said:
And yes, Macs are a closed system but that allows for an unprecidented level of integration. They are soooo much easier to maintain than a PC.
Big Rick Rock
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Mr. dB said:
Don't hold it against them, just be happy they learned from their original mistake.
When you are in the booth, you want to worry about anything BUT having your session crash mid verse.
-BRR
Island Son
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Because Apple controls the whole chain. No clone makers. So they can keep the OS clean.
PC's are cheap because the clones/cloners have driven the cost of technology down to the bone. The hardware specs are public and anyone can build something and hook it up.
Windows is huge and unstable BECAUSE PC's are cheap and open; everyone builds multiple hardware in different versions all over the world. And Windows needs to support them all.
PC's are cheap because the clones/cloners have driven the cost of technology down to the bone. The hardware specs are public and anyone can build something and hook it up.
Windows is huge and unstable BECAUSE PC's are cheap and open; everyone builds multiple hardware in different versions all over the world. And Windows needs to support them all.
Big Rick Rock said:
Original mistake? It's their most recent product.
When I said it was their "first hardware product", the emphasis should be on the word "hardware". Prior to their live sound product, they were a software company. They chose the Windows platform over Mac, Linux, or BSD.
http://www.digidesign.com/index.cfm?navid=20&langid=100&
jh1
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mrplunkey said:
As I posted in your original thread... adding ram to either platform is equally as easy.
Just because you saw it as a 'daunting' task that turned out to be simple, doesn't mean the MAC is better.
It's like turning on your faucet... there isn't anything to it on a PC or a MAC.
Big Rick Rock
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Mr. dB said:
Maybe I don't know enough about the subject to argue about it.
All I do know is that EVERYBODY I have come in contact with in the music industry uses Mac. Everybody from a producer, technician or a DJs ALL USE Mac. All of them!
I know at least 6 DJs that have switched from CDs to a single laptop, they all use Mac laptops. Same with the guys mixing and recording.
Actually, I do know one (1) guy who makes beats and uses windows w/ FrutiyLoops the same program I use.
-BRR
mrplunkey
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No, building a PC from OEM components would be fairly simple for me.JH1 said:
What impressed me was how not a single tool was needed, how the parts came together very cleanly, and how intuitive the design was.
I've never seen a PC like that. Even my Falcon V's upstairs (which are some of the better integrated machines IMO) have their nuances, such as screws that want to cross-thread and parts that don't mate-up 100% smoothly.
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Mr. dB said:
I don't think anybody wakes up one day and says "I'm an artist, I need to get a Mac"
Most of the guys I know do own or have owned Windows system thru their life and just decide Mac is better suited for them. Some dudes like my boy "DJ Terror" who make beats start off using PC programs for music and then switch over to Mac over time. I have been in his lab and watched a his PC freeze in the middle of a FruityLoops session. DT keeps his PC off the internet because of viruses and only uses it for music. I also record at the home-studio of a premier DJ in NY, he uses the same Mac to record/mix that he does to check his e-mail and go on MySpace. He keeps a Mac laptop on a stand next to his bed, he uses that to surf the web, chat and watch YouTube when he is bed... That same laptop he uses to play music at a club packed with 1,500 people every Saturday night...
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UA_Iron
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mrplunkey said:
two finger screws to untighten, take off two panels that hook on, open two plastic tabs per ram module, insert module, close tabs.
so simple even a mac user could do it.
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