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Why am I growing boobs??

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I am doing a test prop/eq cycle of 180mg prop and 600mg eq weekly. I am also using 10 mg nolva and .25 mg a-dex daily from week 2 (5 days ago). I waited till week 2 when I started prop injections to begin anti-e's. So I have been on 600mg eq for 11 days and 180 prop for 6 days, and using the anti-e's for 6 days. I have existing gyno from puberty and have ran 2 test cycles with nolva and noticed no increase in nip puffiness.

My nips have a burning sensation, hard to describe but just not right, and they are noticably puffier. Should I up the a-dex to .5mg ed and the nolva to 20mg ed? Is it hard on the liver kidneys etc running both of these for 9 weeks? Please give me suggestions, I gotta figure out how to best control estro.
 
you may wnat to up the a-dex dosage to .5 ed.....I had the same prob no matter how much I took....a-dex did not do it for me....my sugg is to switch to aromasin or femera.....
 
I will try uping it to .5 ed and see what happens. The hard part is distinguishing whether it is in my head from being paranoid, or actually gyno setting in. I have 20ml liquidex and 50ml liquid nolva. Should I run the Nolva with the a-dex (.5ed a-dex, 10mg nolva) or just run the a-dex. I do notice a little edema/bloat all over so my estro is definetly up a bit to high. So it might not be effective in some people?
 
You should not need to up them both at that level. I would only increase the nolvadex to 20mg ED
 
180mg prop per week with eq shouldn't be causing that much gyno symptoms with nolva and dex. Is it possible your EQ is not eq?
 
Well the best thing to do is get off the cycle, although nobody wants to do that mid way thru.

I was in week 5 of a Sust cycle just 2 weeks ago and my nips were becoming very puffy and extruding outwards fast despite being on 20mg Nolvadex & 1 mg Liquidex per day. I stopped the cycle and within a couple days they subsided somewhat.

Now I am trying everything possible to get rid of the remaining puffniess.
I'll post my progress here in a week or two.
 
The eq is good, it is QV and I checked the lot #'s on their site, and the hologram is accurate.

I am wondering if starting the EQ one week earlier than the prop lowered my nat test levels and increased estro, and now it is just taking some time for the ancillaries to combat the estro.

I am going to run the nolva at 20mg ed and the l-dex at .3mg and see what happens, then if all is good I will try and cut back on the nolva. It could possibly that my hormones levels are up and down and need to stabilize.
 
EQ does aromatize.....not very much, but it does. my guess would be not using an antiaromatase for a week with the EQ may be responsible.
 
Jerkbox, I think that may have something to do with it. I have been using 600mg eq for almost 2 weeks now and only using a-dex at .2mg ed for about 5 days. I am gonna up it to .5mg ed and run the nolva at 20mg ed till symptoms disapear then try and drop the nolva and run the a-dex throughout at .5mg alone.
 
I like the Nolva at 20mg's. You should trying running it when you are off sometime. I read an article that it can help get rid of gyno that started at a young age in most subjects. If I can find it I will post it.
Good Luck
 
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