who's a fan of SHORT TEST CYCLES? lets build one.....

[wcjcMr.O]

I know most short cycles like this are recommended to be ran with short esters. But Im wanting to run a short test cycle with either Enanthate or Cypionate (its what I have right now). I may have to just switch to Cypionate for the last couple weeks. Not sure how much enanthate I have left. But I have read they are often substituted for each other in medical practices since there ester is so similar.

SO, Im thinking maybe 6 weeks at 500mg/wk.

14 days after last pin, I would start pct. ok protocol with cypionate?

Most likely I will be kickstarting with an oral, either d-bol or dmt. Ive never ran d-bol but I blew up 28 pounds in 4 weeks on DMT. Any suggestions? May be another thread here shortly.......

I know people say with enanthate you dont notice much til around week 5. Frankly, I think that is BS. Maybe you wont really "NOTICE" much, but dont tell me those first 8 pins are just "building" up. I mean sure it does build up, but you cant honestly believe that your body isnt utilizing that gear and making gains you wouldn't be able to naturally for those first few weeks.

So if I run a 6 wk cycle, its still basically pushed out to 8 since ill be starting pct 14 days after last pin.

Has anyone ran a short cycle like this with E or C?

My main goal here is to just recover more easily so I can jump back on cycle more frequently. Plus I feel the gains from shorter cycles are easier to maintain, mainly due to ease of recovery. Also, I'll be able to squeeze 2 cycles out of my gear, instead of just a single long cycle (10-12 weeks).

so what are your guys thoughts on a 6 week E or C cycle?

Thanks guys, bring on the flames

 

[JBEXT81]

i like the idea of shorter cycles after doing long ones (will do my first short cycle of test prop starting monday for the 6 wk fat loss post). Easier to recover and easier for body to mantain the weight gained. I dont see a problem running test C or E for 6 weeks but i do like addition of an oral like you said

I remember a post by Nelson Montana saying he has seen blood results from a shot of test being EXTREMELY high an hour after a shot so i think ur right about the build up time.

 

[C.K.]

I'm gonna do another beast/kata/test prop/mast prop cycle ran it 4 weeks pre halloween and was one of the best cycles of my life gained a solid 10 lbs gonna throw in some proviron this time for my spring cycle probably never gonna do a long cycle again

 

[wcjcMr.O]

I'm gonna do another beast/kata/test prop/mast prop cycle ran it 4 weeks pre halloween and was one of the best cycles of my life gained a solid 10 lbs gonna throw in some proviron this time for my spring cycle probably never gonna do a long cycle again

Nice, I would love to run something like this.

But whats your take on a long ester in a short cycle? I see your running prop. I plan on doin E or C but will be throwin in an oral for the first 4 weeks.

I know nelson is big on short cycles too. Hopefully he'll chime in and give us his take on these esters in a short cycle.

 

[JuiceIsMyFriend]

Doesn't test take 6-8 wk before it starts working?

 

[wcjcMr.O]

Doesn't test take 6-8 wk before it starts working?

depending on the ester it takes a few weeks for blood levels to become elevated to the point where they are stable, or as stable as there going to be.

But to say it takes a few weeks to "start working"? I call BS. The very second you inject any form of test it begins to raise blood test levels, so maybe you wont notice much for a few weeks, But it has to be working.

are you saying that the oil just sits in your leg and accumulates until you get 5 weeks worth of juice in there, and THAN it begins to work? lol doesnt make much sense to me.......

I think it depends on the person as well. If your an experienced lifter who is at or near a plateau, I think you will notice the difference MUCH faster than someone who is brand new to lifting and doenst know what the hell there doing in the gym or in the kitchen and would be making good gains without juice anyway.

 

[JuiceIsMyFriend]

depending on the ester it takes a few weeks for blood levels to become elevated to the point where they are stable, or as stable as there going to be.

But to say it takes a few weeks to "start working"? I call BS. The very second you inject any form of test it begins to raise blood test levels, so maybe you wont notice much for a few weeks, But it has to be working.

are you saying that the oil just sits in your leg and accumulates until you get 5 weeks worth of juice in there, and THAN it begins to work? lol doesnt make much sense to me.......

I think it depends on the person as well. If your an experienced lifter who is at or near a plateau, I think you will notice the difference MUCH faster than someone who is brand new to lifting and doenst know what the hell there doing in the gym or in the kitchen and would be making good gains without juice anyway.

Lmao great points bro. Never thought of that. Just always heard test took weeks before it took effect kinda like eq

 

[wcjcMr.O]

bumpin

please read the opening post and let me know your thoughts.......thank you

 

[Nelson Montana]

Up until the internet explosion, 6 week cycles were standard.

 

[wcjcMr.O]

Up until the internet explosion, 6 week cycles were standard.

Awesome. I just wasnt 100% on doin a short cycle with a long ester like E and C.

So.....Looks like I will be jumpin on this in a couple weeks. Cant wait.

I will do a log for this cycle when I start