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Whole egg vs. whites vs. yoke

JuicePimp

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Ok, so I admit I am no diet guru, but why other than cholestrol reasons, why do people drop the yoke out of the egg. This is the best part. I always eat whole eggs. Why crack em and waste 1/2 of it or more? I eat about 6 of these a day. Sure I could eat more if I just ate the whites but why would I want to.

Ok, now you can attack.
 
Ok, so I admit I am no diet guru, but why other than cholestrol reasons, why do people drop the yoke out of the egg. high fat, which for some adds up to high calories
This is the best part. I always eat whole eggs. Why crack em and waste 1/2 of it or more? some people can't have the extra calories, think of it this way, 5 egg whites about 70 cal, 5 large eggs, about 350cal I eat about 6 of these a day. Sure I could eat more if I just ate the whites but why would I want to.

Mr.X
 
Ok, so good, the whole egg is good for me. But what about protein. My jumbo eggs claim 7-8 gms protein each. If you take out the yoke, how much protein is left?

Thanks.
 
JuicePimp said:
Ok, so good, the whole egg is good for me. But what about protein. My jumbo eggs claim 7-8 gms protein each. If you take out the yoke, how much protein is left?

Thanks.

Usually about 2-3 g protein per egg white.

Mr.X
 
i ususally have 1 whole egg and about 4-5 whites for my scrambled eggs in the morning, As much as i hate wasting the yolks though this keeps teh fat lower and the taste is still decent
 
if you have fat or cholesteral concerns drop it
i need the fat in my diet so i leave it in
and yes it is the tastiest part of the egg

and for those reading this that say egg white only and think yolks are evil, please realize your body produces the equivilent to two yolks daily, it is necessary for proper brain function.........hmm....that explains alot!
lol
 
Mr.X said:


Usually about 2-3 g protein per egg white.

Mr.X

Are you sure about that?

The egg whites I buy weight 47g each and the calculation
I made comes to 5g of protein in each egg white.
 
junk said:


Are you sure about that?

The egg whites I buy weight 47g each and the calculation
I made comes to 5g of protein in each egg white.

you can buy strictly whites? not in a box?

protien content differ depending on the size of eggs

most yolks whether it is a xlarge egg or small are about the same
all that varies is the amount of white in each
so i am assuming you buy xlarge eggs then
and perhaps mr X buys large
 
Why not buy the cartoned egg whites then your not waisting any. I buy them and mix 1/2 cup of the whites with one egg either scrambled or in an omlete.
 
dayna4u2nv said:
Why not buy the cartoned egg whites then your not waisting any. I buy them and mix 1/2 cup of the whites with one egg either scrambled or in an omlete.

Exactly. I have Two Eggs, 1 carton of whites, 1 slice of no fat swiss cheese, scrambled every morning.

Two cartons of whites are like $2.30 so it isn't much cash.
 
what about extra large eggs?

i thought it'd be more protein than 2-3 grams per egg white....

for breakfast i have 3 whole eggs and 6 whites extra large. about how much protein is that? i eat this 2x a day
 
1 cup (8 oz) is 25.5 g of Protein. Measure your 6 whites to be sure.

However, according to Calorieking.com
1 large white is 3.5g.
1 Large Yolk is 2.7g
1 large egg is 6.3g.
1 Extra Large egg is 7.0
so..
1 Extra Large White would be about 3.75g P

That would give you

3*7 + 6*3.75=21+22.5=43.5 P
3*5.6=16.8 F
3*.7=2.1 C
 
I read that The white has only a little bit more protien than the yellow. My eggs have 8 protein, 4.3 grams In the white.
 
serbstyle1 said:
I read that The white has only a little bit more protien than the yellow. My eggs have 8 protein, 4.3 grams In the white.

I think the balance is more like 75-80% of the protein in the white, 20-25% in the yolk.
 
No, the protien is something close to 55% white, 45% yolk. The yolk also contains virtually all of the nutrients, and all of the beneficial fatty acids. Egg whites are nutritionally void food for the most part. Yes they contain protien, but that is it. You could get protien from other food sources that actually have some nutritional value as well. Just my 2 cc's.
 
What is the nutritional content of the egg white cartons like? Do you really get "pure" egg whites or are there additives in it (watered down)?

Have always thought that they are not as good/pure as real egg whites so I have never bought the cartons.
 
i don't scramble mine, i drink mine raw. against what Mr.X said, i still use some bananna in them, but i've cut it back a lot. i used to use 6oz skim milk, 2 whites, one whole, and 1/2 a bananna, all in the blender, twice a day. now i'm using 1/4 bananna, 2 whites, 2 whole, and not even 4oz of milk. yeah, the bananna isn't the greatest, but i don't have the $$ to order the egg white protein yet, and trying to eat a bowl of oatmeal AND scrambled eggs in the morning.....it's more food than i can currently handle at once. at least by drinking my eggs, i can wash down the oatmeal.

speaking of oatmeal....honey is ok, isn't it?
 
junk said:


Are you sure about that?

The egg whites I buy weight 47g each and the calculation
I made comes to 5g of protein in each egg white.


Depending on the size of eggs you buy; the safeway standard eggs that I buy have about 3g protein. So, yes I'm sure.

Mr.X
 
I was curious about this too...isn't the fat/cholesterol in the yolk "good" as opposed to other cholesterols and fats? I eat a bunch of hardboiled eggs with lunch right now since I'm bulking...is this unhealthy to do everyday? Cholesterol per egg is like 75% DV or something, but then again that is based on a 2,000Kcal diet...still something to think about though.
 
Nighthawkk said:
I was curious about this too...isn't the fat/cholesterol in the yolk "good" as opposed to other cholesterols and fats? I eat a bunch of hardboiled eggs with lunch right now since I'm bulking...is this unhealthy to do everyday? Cholesterol per egg is like 75% DV or something, but then again that is based on a 2,000Kcal diet...still something to think about though.

I know there's several different types of dietary fat ranging from beneficial to really bad but I thought there was just one types of dietary cholesterol. Good question though. I'd love to know that one too since its the only reason I dont eat the yolk.
 
I bought a carton of egg whites last night and had some this morning, it tasted about the same, but the white was all murky and not clear like when I crack an egg. How come?
 
I use to take 1 yolk for every 3 whites
 
SoreArms said:
I bought a carton of egg whites last night and had some this morning, it tasted about the same, but the white was all murky and not clear like when I crack an egg. How come?
probably lecithin
used to make em thick
 
1994

Ginsberg et al. 1994. A dose-response study of the effects of dietary cholesterol on fasting and postprandial lipid and lipoprotein metabolism in healthy young men. Arterioscler. Thrombosis 14:576-586.

SUMMARY

The dietary cholesterol feeding studies carried out during the past two years add to a growing body of evidence demonstrating that the majority of study subjects have relatively small plasma cholesterol changes in response to changes in dietary cholesterol intake. These findings are consistent with data from over thirty years of clinical investigations on this question and indicate that the average response to a 100 mg/day change in dietary cholesterol intake is a 2.5 mg/dl change in plasma cholesterol levels. While some individuals are more sensitive to the effects of dietary cholesterol (15-20% of the population), the dose adjusted response factor in this group is still relatively small (3.2 vs 1.6 for sensitive vs resistant study subjects). For example, it can be estimated that reducing dietary cholesterol intake from 400 mg/day to 300 mg/day results in a plasma cholesterol reduction of 3.2 mg/dl in cholesterol sensitive individuals and as little as 1.6 mg/dl in cholesterol insensitive individuals. What becomes essential for effective dietary interventions to lower an elevated plasma cholesterol level is an understanding of the extensive variability of individual responses to dietary changes and the need to determine the most effective dietary intervention for the high risk patient.


For these controlled feeding studies twenty-four young men were fed 30% fat diets (NCEP Step I) with addition of zero (128 mg cholesterol/day), one (283 mg/day), two (468 mg/day) or four (858 mg/day) eggs per day to the basal diet. Each diet was fed for eight weeks. Average plasma cholesterol levels in the twenty-four subjects were 155, 161, 162, and 166 mg/dl for the zero, one, two and four eggs per day feeding periods. Plasma total cholesterol increased 1.5 mg/dl per 100 mg/day added dietary cholesterol. There was no evidence that changes in dietary cholesterol intakes altered the postprandial plasma lipoprotein profile (lipoproteins thought to be involved in the development of atherosclerosis) and thus did not alter the atherogenic potential of the plasma lipoproteins. The data indicate that in the majority of healthy young men addition of two eggs per day to a low-fat diet has little effect on plasma cholesterol levels.


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Schnohr et al. 1994. Egg consumption and high-density-lipoprotein cholesterol. J. Intern. Med. 235:249-251.


To determine the effects of egg consumption on plasma HDL cholesterol levels, twenty-four adults added two eggs per day to their usual diets for six weeks. Total cholesterol levels were increased by 4% while HDL cholesterol levels increased 10%. The dose adjusted response to the change in dietary cholesterol was 2.4 mg/dl per 100 mg/day. The authors concluded that "a moderate egg intake should not be rigorously restricted in healthy individuals."


McComb et al. 1994. Attenuated hypercholesterolemic response to a high-cholesterol diet in subjects heterozygous for the apolipoprotein A-IV-2 allele.N. Engl. J. Med. 331:706-710.


Genetic factors contribute to the variability of the plasma lipid responses to dietary cholesterol and in this study it was shown that subjects with the apolipoprotein A-IV-2 allele have an attenuated response to a dietary cholesterol challenge. Subjects were fed a low-cholesterol diet and one with 1100 mg/day added cholesterol. The change in plasma cholesterol in subjects without the apo A-IV-2 allele (n=12) was 22 mg/dl (dose adjusted: 2.3 mg/dl per 100 mg/day) while for those with the apo A-IV-2 allele (n=11) the change was 6 mg/dl (dose adjusted: 0.7 mg/dl per 100 mg/day). It is estimated that one in every seven individuals in the United States has the apo A-IV-2 allele and, based on the data from this study, has a genetic resistance to the plasma cholesterol raising effects of very high intakes of dietary cholesterol. These findings are a breakthrough in beginning to understand the role of genetic factors in the variability of plasma lipid responses to dietary cholesterol.



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Vuoristo & Miettinen. 1994. Absorption, metabolism, and serum concentrations of cholesterol in vegetarians: effects of cholesterol feeding. Am. J. Clin. Nutr. 59:1325-1331.

Dietary cholesterol feeding studies were carried out in five vegetarians to determine if there were any differences in responses as compared to non-vegetarians. Addition of three egg yolks per day (690 mg cholesterol) to the diet for two months increased the average plasma cholesterol level by 23 mg/dl (dose adjusted: 3.4 mg/dl per 100 mg/day). Surprisingly, HDL cholesterol levels were increased by 10 mg/dl with addition of egg yolks to the diet and the LDL:HDL ratio was unaffected by cholesterol feeding. The authors concluded that the metabolic responses to dietary cholesterol are similar for vegetarians and non-vegetarian subjects.


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Kern. 1994. Effects of dietary cholesterol on cholesterol and bile acid homeostasis in patients with cholesterol gallstones. J. Clin. Invest. 93:1186-1194.

Sixteen women, eight controls and eight with cholesterol gallstones, were fed moderate- and high-cholesterol (5 eggs/day = 939 mg/day cholesterol) diets for 15-18 days and various parameters of cholesterol metabolism were measured. In control subjects the plasma cholesterol level increased by 6 mg/dl with cholesterol feeding (0.7 mg/dl per 100 mg/day) while in the gallstone subjects the plasma total cholesterol level was decreased by 8 mg/dl with intake of the high cholesterol diet. The study also found that in both groups cholesterol absorption and cholesterol synthesis were decreased on the high cholesterol diet. In both groups of patients, the body's response to a large increase in dietary cholesterol was sufficient to compensate for the increase resulting in little or no increase in plasma cholesterol levels.



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Lichtenstein et al. 1994. Hypercholesterolemic effect of dietary cholesterol in diets enriched in polyunsaturated and saturated fat. Dietary cholesterol, fat saturation, and plasma lipids. Arterioscler. Thromb. 14:168-175.

Studies in fourteen men (n=8) and women (n=6) fed either corn oil (polyunsaturated fat) or beef tallow (saturated fat) with or without addition of 197-226 mg cholesterol per 1000 kcal, documented little effect of dietary fat saturation on the plasma cholesterol response to dietary cholesterol. In the corn oil fed group the addition of cholesterol increased plasma cholesterol 11 mg/dl (dose adjusted: 3.9 mg/dl per 100 mg/day) and in the beef tallow group the increase was the same, 11 mg/dl (dose adjusted: 3.8 mg/dl per 100 mg/day). The findings are consistent with other studies which indicate that with a 30% fat diet, the plasma cholesterol response to dietary cholesterol is independent of the fatty acid composition of the diet. The study also provides evidence which suggests that resistance to the effects of dietary cholesterol occurs in older men and women and is not limited to only young, healthy volunteers.



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Jones et al. 1994. Interaction of dietary fat saturation and cholesterol level on cholesterol synthesis measured using deuterium incorporation. J. Lipid Res. 35:1093-1101.

These investigators tested the effects of dietary fat and cholesterol on the regulation of cholesterol synthesis in older men (n=6) and women (n=8). The study subjects were fed diets high in either polyunsaturated fat, corn oil, or saturated fat, beef tallow, with and without addition of 120 mg cholesterol per 1000 kcal. Dietary cholesterol increased plasma cholesterol levels by 12 mg/dl (dose adjusted response = 4.1 mg/dl per 100 mg/day change in dietary cholesterol) and there was no difference between the dietary polyunsaturated and saturated fat groups. The results from this study provide evidence that one effect of an increase in dietary cholesterol is a decease in cholesterol synthesis by the body to compensate for the change. The precision of this mechanisms helps maintain plasma cholesterol levels constant.



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1995


Ginsberg et al. 1995. Increases in dietary cholesterol are associated with modest increases in both LDL and HDL cholesterol in healthy young women. Arterioscler. Thromb. Vasc. Biol. 15:169-178.

A controlled dietary cholesterol feeding study in thirteen young women tested the effects of feeding zero, one, or three eggs per day on plasma lipids and lipoproteins. The data indicated that the dose adjusted plasma cholesterol response was 2.8 mg/dl per 100 mg/day dietary cholesterol (a value higher than that obtained in males in the 1994 study). In women, however, the increase in total plasma cholesterol with dietary cholesterol occurred in both the atherogenic LDL cholesterol (2.1 mg/dl per 100 mg/day) and the anti-atherogenic HDL cholesterol (0.6 mg/dl per 100 mg/day). As found in the previous study in healthy young men, young women have the ability to compensate for an increased intake of cholesterol by adjusting the way cholesterol is handled by the body. The data show that addition of two eggs per day to the diet of healthy young women has little effect on plasma cholesterol levels in the majority of study subjects.



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Ferrier et al. 1995. Alpha-linolenic acid- and docosahexanaenoic acid-enriched eggs from hens fed flaxseed: influence on blood lipids and platelet phospholipid fatty acids in humans. Am. J. Clin. Nutr. 62:81-86.

This study compared the effects of feeding four regular or omega-3 fatty acid enriched eggs per day for two weeks on plasma lipids in twenty-eight males. Eggs were obtained from hens fed either zero, ten or twenty percent flax seed diets. Addition of four eggs per day (720 mg of cholesterol) to the diet increased plasma total cholesterol levels an average of 13 mg/dl and there were no differences between the sources of eggs tested. The dose adjusted change in plasma cholesterol levels was 1.9 mg/dl per 100 mg/day change in dietary cholesterol. HDL cholesterol levels were increased 2 mg/dl with the addition of eggs. It would appear from this study that the fatty acid composition of the egg has no relationship to the effects of dietary cholesterol on plasma cholesterol levels.



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1996


Knopp et al. 1996. A double-blind, randomized trial of the effects of two eggs per day in moderately hypercholesterolemic and combined hyperlipidemic subjects consuming the NCEP Step I diet. (Reported in abstract at the November 1995 American Heart Association meeting in Anaheim, CA)

Studies in middle-aged men and women with either moderate hypercholesterolemia (n=44) or combined hyperlipidemia (elevated plasma cholesterol and triglyceride, n=31) were fed either no eggs or two eggs per day as part of a NCEP Step I diet. Subjects with moderate hypercholesterolemia were found to have a dose adjusted plasma cholesterol response to added dietary cholesterol of 1.6 mg/dl per 100 mg/day whereas combined hyperlipidemic individuals are more sensitive to dietary cholesterol and have an average dose response factor of 3.2 mg/dl per 100 mg/day change in dietary cholesterol. The authors concluded that middle aged men and women with elevated plasma cholesterol levels were not more sensitive to dietary cholesterol compared to subjects with normal cholesterol levels. In contrast, middle aged patients with combined hyperlipidemia appear to be more sensitive to dietary cholesterol and in their case dietary cholesterol restrictions appear more appropriate.
 
http://www.extension.umn.edu/distribution/familydevelopment/DE3661.html

People differ in their ability to tolerate cholesterol in the diet because the level at which our body manufactures cholesterol for use in body functions also varies. Even if we didn't eat any cholesterol, the liver would manufacture enough to meet the body's needs. As we increase our consumption of dietary cholesterol, our bodies cut back on its own production. For most of us, this works very well. However, some people cannot adjust their internal cholesterol production with their intake of dietary cholesterol. Such people usually cannot tolerate significant amounts of dietary cholesterol without raising blood cholesterol levels. Too much saturated fat in the diet can magnify the effects of dietary cholesterol.
 
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