who tries to stay lean year around?

[wootool]

I won't bulk/cut anymore beyond 10 pounds. I stay lean all year now. If I want to add size I do it with tren so any fat gains are kept at a minimum.

tren alone or with test?

also, how much do you give up substituting tren for deca in lean mass gains?

I'm thinking of doing this too. Test/deca/dbol is great but even as a natural ecto I still add too much baggage and then always end up losing too much muscle in the cutting phase. I'm tired of 3 steps forward 2 steps back.

 

[gymratforlife]

tren alone or with test?

also, how much do you give up substituting tren for deca in lean mass gains?

I'm thinking of doing this too. Test/deca/dbol is great but even as a natural ecto I still add too much baggage and then always end up losing too much muscle in the cutting phase. I'm tired of 3 steps forward 2 steps back.

Then dont come off lol.

 

[wootool]

Then dont come off lol.

I pretty much came to this conclusion this year, my nuts are now purely for cosmetic purposes lol. but still when you diet down you're gonna lose some lean mass.

 

[gymratforlife]

I pretty much came to this conclusion this year, my nuts are now purely for cosmetic purposes lol. but still when you diet down you're gonna lose some lean mass.

Yeah you will lose but not that much,I diet almost year round and eat super clean never bulking and doing cardio almost every day for an hour a day and still manage to put on a good 10 lbs of lbm per year while doing it.I think by next year around this time I will be 200 at 10% or lower at 5'6"

 

[khemix]

K, what % were you at in ur current avatar?

anyone know of a site where there are different bf % pics to get a visual on?

Im somewhere around 7% right now. You can't see it well in that pic because my phone cam is a really low resolution. To give you an idea: Veins are very heavy thru the forearms and bi's, spider out thru the shoulders and chest, and are starting to come out in the upper abs. They get real nasty thru my neck and traps too.

I see you're running test/deca/dbol. I'm really considering running deca with some of my test and tbol, but I'm not sure about the bloat from the deca. I see you say you're a natural ecto, as am i, and I was curious as to what you thought of the deca? Thanks bro!

Chris

 

[bigmouth2006]

We have very similar stats,I am 5'6" and stay around 180 at 10% right now 190 or so with a little higher trying to put on a few pounds then cut up again.My head fucks with me too so I cant get too out of control,I am on a fairly strict diet year round.I have been as high as 246 at 5'6" and I was a fat slob so I can see 5'4" 280 for Lee Priest easily.

yeah bro it fucks with me to when i get heavy, but i feel good when i am heavy in the gym. that is as far as being strong, but when i am lean or in the process of leaning out it fucks with me even more. just the fact of me losing strenght and i don't know i just feel alot smaller and i don't know what's worst

 

[Bruce]

I'm never above 8% at any point, ever. Genetics bitches!

Chris

same here bro. do you have ab veins though and not 8 abs sometimes. i always have nasty veins but sometimes my bottoms arent' sticking out much. i don't like deca anymore it fucked up my libido and i crashed hard. i prefer eq for guys like us, its all lean gains and the hunger is a great add. its not like it matters what we eat so eq is great imo for bulking with our genetics. what are your stats man.

 

[wootool]

Im somewhere around 7% right now. You can't see it well in that pic because my phone cam is a really low resolution. To give you an idea: Veins are very heavy thru the forearms and bi's, spider out thru the shoulders and chest, and are starting to come out in the upper abs. They get real nasty thru my neck and traps too.

I see you're running test/deca/dbol. I'm really considering running deca with some of my test and tbol, but I'm not sure about the bloat from the deca. I see you say you're a natural ecto, as am i, and I was curious as to what you thought of the deca? Thanks bro!

Chris

Well I was always afraid of deca because of the libido and bloat scare stories so stood away from it. Then when NPP got popular I figured I'd give it a shot. WOW. Big difference. just gave a whole different fullness/maturity to the muscles. probably attributable to the supposed intramuscular fat deposits from nandrolone. dont know if tren does this as well.

Anyway, didnt have a problem with libido or bloat with the NPP, so I went to deca next time around. even better imo, mainly because I didnt have to poke myself eod. not much of a difference in bloat or libido (was using heavy test and proviron both ways, plus some dostinex every week or so).

I think as an ecto you'll love it. my biggest problem was always overtraining even when on. when I started adding NPP/Deca this became much less of an issue. I work more sets, less rest days and still grow.

 

[instant.muscle]

so AAP what kind cycles u been taking test eq?

 

[JoNeS]

I don't exactly try, I simply do. You guys bulking and cutting constantly are just wasting your time in my opinion. Unless you are planning to compete there is no need to get fat and there is no need to try to reach 4%. You are just yo-yoing your body up and down for little to no gains and reason.

Couldn't have said it any better.