What ever happened to the old timer principles of lifting. Everyone nowadays is a sucker for a piece of ass. All we have now is a bunch of fags saying they want to look like models. It looks like to me like modern society has turned most men into women. If thats your goal then I feel sorry for you.
Why dont people train for strength anymore. Im 5'10" 205(11%). Im not a big MOFO but im strong and I love the feeling of deadlifting and squatting 400+ pounds. Actually I see no point in lifting unless I train for strength and I still look good on top of it. Im sure many here would agree with me. If you dont then go curl your 10lb dumbells