who is this guy?

[oldirtybastard]

i usually go around and read different boards but dont post and i havent been here in awhile, but who the fuck is this guy? after reading the ridiculous amount of misinformation hes spewing i had to post something. people are calling him a guru but his theories dont hold up against scientific or even practical knowledge. the amount of bullshit he spouts is disgusting.

 

[needsize]

i usually go around and read different boards but dont post and i havent been here in awhile, but who the fuck is this guy? after reading the ridiculous amount of misinformation hes spewing i had to post something. people are calling him a guru but his theories dont hold up against scientific or even practical knowledge. the amount of bullshit he spouts is disgusting.

and you are??????

 

[Nelson Montana]

i usually go around and read different boards but dont post and i havent been here in awhile, but who the fuck is this guy? after reading the ridiculous amount of misinformation hes spewing i had to post something. people are calling him a guru but his theories dont hold up against scientific or even practical knowledge. the amount of bullshit he spouts is disgusting.

You've been BANNED Juice. Now go away.

 

[c3bodybuilding]

You know it's funny, a lot of the information Nelson believes in, are the same things guys like Gironda, Reeves, and yes even Arnold believed in. All of these things worked wonders for them. I can say that once I let go of my old beliefs (a bunch of crap you read on boards, magazines, and from those bs 'strength coaches'), and tried these methods, I'm making gains like I never have before. Who the fuck cares if you can prove something with a 'study' or not. I don't give two shits about copy and pasted 'information'. I'll take the real world results any day of the week. Maybe if more people gave this stuff a try, there wouldn't be so many people walking around with horrible builds, even when they are taking grams a week. Oh wait, I forgot then they couldn't suck on their net guru or strength coaches nuts anymore... boohoo

 

[Dieharder]

You know it's funny, a lot of the information Nelson believes in, are the same things guys like Gironda, Reeves, and yes even Arnold believed in. All of these things worked wonders for them. I can say that once I let go of my old beliefs (a bunch of crap you read on boards, magazines, and from those bs 'strength coaches'), and tried these methods, I'm making gains like I never have before. Who the fuck cares if you can prove something with a 'study' or not. I don't give two shits about copy and pasted 'information'. I'll take the real world results any day of the week. Maybe if more people gave this stuff a try, there wouldn't be so many people walking around with horrible builds, even when they are taking grams a week. Oh wait, I forgot then they couldn't suck on their net guru or strength coaches nuts anymore... boohoo

couldnt have said it better myself. SOMEHOW and SOMEWAY Reeves, Arnold, Zane doing things THEIR way, not the way a magazine or even a message board tells you. they ate tons of food, had incredible workloads (no cardio, i think arnold said he used to maybe jog for a mile as a warmup) and popped some dbols. Drink MILK, EAT RED MEAT, EAT DOZENS OF EGGS, and somehow they werent fat...go figure.

 

[oldirtybastard]

after reading this i can see why the people with actual intelligence refer to this board as a joke.

 

[Nelson Montana]

after reading this i can see why the people with actual intelligence refer to this board as a joke.

Stop being a spiteful little cunt Juice Authority.

If everyone here is so stupid, why are you here? Aren't there enough message boards out there you can shit on without coming on this one?

Make one more post and a motion will be made to ban you from all the EF forums . Don't push your luck asshole.

 

[Mr. Black]

spiteful little cunt .
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[ham2]

well, at the times of Arnold & Zane, oxygen boots were NOT needed backstage at the Olympia, and contestants would walk in on their own feet...and out.
The big african dudes were just big african dudes, not ballet dancing squealing because of diuretic induced cramps.
I read somewhere Pearl & Grimek admitted steroid usage was about common since the late 50's.
But they were much wiser.
I'd always go for a Nelson Montana kind of routine ( somewhat Steve Reeves may have used ) rather than grabbing the calculator to delve into some wonder magazine routine whose big guy kicks ass...well when he's not on dialysis & he's not jittering from insulin overdoses.
Reeves & Arnold used to be in a great shape year round.
Todays big guys are three times as big but they barely last a fortnight to make it onstage.

 

[digger]

Stop being a spiteful little cunt Juice Authority.

For the record, the log says it's someone else. Appropriate action has been taken.

I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for you to apologize to JA, but I would.

 

[Nelson Montana]

For the record, the log says it's someone else. Appropriate action has been taken.

I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for you to apologize to JA, but I would.

Really? It sounds exactly like him. One post and he comes on with the same exact bitching.

Hmmm, I'd say it's Juice on another computer. But if it wasn't, I do apologize.

 

[Bulldog_10]

Really? It sounds exactly like him. One post and he comes on with the same exact bitching.

Hmmm, I'd say it's Juice on another computer. But if it wasn't, I do apologize.

He has some sort of computer thingy that allows him to change his IP. I'm sure the IT guys around here (digger) could explain it.

 

[maccer]

little cunt....... lol

Nelson by the way just finished your book, good read thoroughly enjoyed it. Have recently gone platinum, the main reason being so I can ask some questions here on your board good stuff

 

[digger]

He has some sort of computer thingy that allows him to change his IP. I'm sure the IT guys around here (digger) could explain it.

If you just "change your IP" it would be a lot like hanging up your telephone -- it would break the connection. What you're probably thinking of is "relaying through a proxy" (using another system's address). You can't use just any address; there has to be something there to cooperate with you.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

As I've stated before, I do not agree with anything Nelson says concerning nutrition, the man has hit the nail on the head with several of his training theories, a couple of which I acually came across as published material prior to reading his info here (the man is actually a published writer). Much of what he writes is similar to that of the late Vince Gironda (as c3bodybuilding has pointed out), the "Iron Guru", who trained everyone from Arnold to Zane and got them into superb contest condition without saying "Ok,you need 3 grams of test, 2 grams of deca a week, along with 16 iu's of hgh, and 200 mg of winstrol every day... are you willing to use pgf2a?"

While Nelson's information on drug use is sometimes questionable, its at the very least an interesting read, and even when I disagree with it based on my own evidence and resources, at the very least I have to stop and think about the issue from another perspective that I may not have realized existed.

Yes, Nelson can come across as being a little to abrasive and immature at times, but every now and then you'll stumble across some useful information, or at the very least something that forces one to rethink their beliefs concerning the way they should go about bodybuilding.

 

[Bulldog_10]

If you just "change your IP" it would be a lot like hanging up your telephone -- it would break the connection. What you're probably thinking of is "relaying through a proxy" (using another system's address). You can't use just any address; there has to be something there to cooperate with you.

Yeah...that's what it was...a proxy. Either way...it worked..cuz he was posting here under big bad buff after he was banned from this forum. This guy isn't him though.

 

[ham2]

I enjoy Montana's writing not because i expect to learn something every time, but for the sake of it.
The only sore spot in Montana's board charachter is he gets too defensive when "his" supplements are being questioned.
Going like " You dumba$s you wouldn't know your a$s from an hot rock, yet product X has 50.000 satisfied patrons and just 3 dissatisfied ones " is counterproductive in my opinion.
Anyway i think that's part of his charachter...there are things James Bond will not or will absolutely do, do does Montana.
What's utmost in written ( one choose whose words to read, it's 1-1 ) might not be on a public board, however, where you may have everyone.