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Who here is a believer of lose dose cycles for beginners?
- Thread starter Xiodus
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First cycle was 200mg deca/week and 150mg winny/week. Gained really well on a mass building diet. Kept all my weight.
Hit up an eq only cycle at 300mg/week for 8 weeks afterwards and gained well as well after I had dropped some weight though from dieting.
After that I did a deca only cycle at 600mg a week and got strong as fuck and got my weight up to 238. First time I ran clomid.
Then did winny again this time on it's own at 100mg eod for several weeks. Took a break. Didn't use clomid.
Then did my first run with test with enanthate. I did 200mg/week and bumped it up to 400mg/week. No anti-estrogens or clomid.
Then I did 500mg sus/week. Then I did another 500mg sus cycle/week this time with 20mg d-bol ed with 1/4mg arimidex every third day after only a 5 week break in between these 2 cycles. This whole time I was dieting.
Took off 6 months(when I joined elite and learned a shitload more!) then did my latest 7 month long cycle(longest btw) and now I am off.
Damn I never realized I did this many cycle's...... hehehe.
If I could go back I probably would have done just 250mg test with no anti-estrogens for 8-10 weeks. Test as a first cycle is fine for me personally but some people shouldn't take it depending on side effects and what they are predisposed to. So do I believe in mild doses. Yes I do. Far too many people want everything now. I'm patient and want to last in this game. It's not just a hobby to me it's a whole lifestyle. Doseages still are not high and I doubt I ever will go high. Just my preferance everyone is different and has different goals.
LOL this post was long.
Hit up an eq only cycle at 300mg/week for 8 weeks afterwards and gained well as well after I had dropped some weight though from dieting.
After that I did a deca only cycle at 600mg a week and got strong as fuck and got my weight up to 238. First time I ran clomid.
Then did winny again this time on it's own at 100mg eod for several weeks. Took a break. Didn't use clomid.
Then did my first run with test with enanthate. I did 200mg/week and bumped it up to 400mg/week. No anti-estrogens or clomid.
Then I did 500mg sus/week. Then I did another 500mg sus cycle/week this time with 20mg d-bol ed with 1/4mg arimidex every third day after only a 5 week break in between these 2 cycles. This whole time I was dieting.
Took off 6 months(when I joined elite and learned a shitload more!) then did my latest 7 month long cycle(longest btw) and now I am off.
Damn I never realized I did this many cycle's...... hehehe.
If I could go back I probably would have done just 250mg test with no anti-estrogens for 8-10 weeks. Test as a first cycle is fine for me personally but some people shouldn't take it depending on side effects and what they are predisposed to. So do I believe in mild doses. Yes I do. Far too many people want everything now. I'm patient and want to last in this game. It's not just a hobby to me it's a whole lifestyle. Doseages still are not high and I doubt I ever will go high. Just my preferance everyone is different and has different goals.
LOL this post was long.
The Majestic
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I am a strong believer in single compounds for a first cycle. This will give you an idea of how you react to specific drugs as well as specific doses.
My first cycle was anadrol at 1-2 tabs per day, I wish i had resources like this at my disposal back then, I would of done it much differently,and safer.
If you insist on using test right away, keep the doses low, you can always bump them up as you go if you are not satisfied.
Personally, If i had to do it all over again, i would simply run Deca at 400mg a week for 8 weeks.
My first cycle was anadrol at 1-2 tabs per day, I wish i had resources like this at my disposal back then, I would of done it much differently,and safer.
If you insist on using test right away, keep the doses low, you can always bump them up as you go if you are not satisfied.
Personally, If i had to do it all over again, i would simply run Deca at 400mg a week for 8 weeks.
kyle said:
I wouldnt use both together. It's either 20-25 mg of dbols or 50 mg of winny ED. Now mixing both would result in 70-75 mg of 17 aa orals. Not the best thing for your liver. Be sure to use R-ALA at 300 mg or milk thistle at 1500 mg or more. Tyler Detox or Liv-52 are also an option.
mrdraco
New member
Considering this light cycle for my first cycle in December:
250 QV Enan wk1-10
400 TT EQ wk1-10
75 EOD TT Stan wk 9-12
.25 ED Liquidex
Also have QV Prop 100. Considering using it to jump start the cycle
I stay away from orals because of a sensitive gut
Also, at my job I can't show any obvious outward signs like bloating.
I'm 37 191lb 5'8".
250 QV Enan wk1-10
400 TT EQ wk1-10
75 EOD TT Stan wk 9-12
.25 ED Liquidex
Also have QV Prop 100. Considering using it to jump start the cycle
I stay away from orals because of a sensitive gut
Also, at my job I can't show any obvious outward signs like bloating.
I'm 37 191lb 5'8".
