Who does not include test??

[Fat_Sumo]

Curious as to how many go against the grain and do not use test in their cycles? How many feel the sides from test such as ACNE (my biggest concern), hairloss etc. are not worth the gains you get from test and stick to more anabolic compounds such as EQ, winny, var etc?

Thanks for your responses

 

[sorerotators]

I'm curious about this also. Anyone?

 

[TheRide]

I've done atleast 4 cycles w/out test.... When I do include it I keep the does at a minimum also. 200-400/week. Mainly b/c of acne. I'm pront to it and test aggrivates it. I've done cycles consisting of deca, EQ, Winny, Primo, all w/out test. With a solid diet and hard training, never been disapointed. But I have to say, when I have used test, my strength gains have been much more then w/out it.

 

[Outtlaw]

I've done 1 cycle w/o test and got great results.

 

[Dial_tone]

sometimes i do, sometimes i don't

 

[Fat_Sumo]

I have just been thinking lately that what good is a great build if i'm covered in zits and am to ashamed to even take my shirt off! Just trying to weigh out the pro's and cons! I know the results would be much better with test but at what trade off! I was planning on using prop @ 100mg/eod, still have 6 weeks to decide!

 

[Vulgar_Display_Of_Power]

Does anybody elses complexion stay clear until after the PCT?

 

[slash747]

My next cycle will be the second one without test. I liked the results I got from test but just not worth the sides.

 

[napolean22]

I hate the way I breakout after cycle!!! Clean all cycle, then it hits me during and after PCT. I am looking into deca/dbol with a low dose of test for my next cycle.

One thing to mention...I have focused really hard the last month or so on researching about how to take care of my skin, and I must say it has helped a lot. I exfoliate once a day and wash twice a day.

 

[Fat_Sumo]

My next cycle will be the second one without test. I liked the results I got from test but just not worth the sides.

What sides did you get bro?

 

[slash747]

What sides did you get bro?

Hair loss, altghough I did have some, wasnt that bad. I got really bad depression though.

I AM pre-disposed to depression, but whoa, I dont want to sound like a lunatic, but I got down right suicidal. I knew it was the test went to a good psychiatrist and got Provigil and Wellbutrin which works well for me.

My mood was the worst side effect, Id cry one minute, next minute id be the happiest person. The morning to night wood is awsome though.

I dont want to give test a bad name , like I said these are the things that bothered me about it, not everyone gets depression , not everyone is pre-disposed.

Also the cycle I got depression with test I was on:

Testoviron ( Testex ) 500mg/week
EQ: 400mg/week

12 weeks
Used clomid for PCT and Arimidex throughout the whole cycle


Ive been on a Anavar only cycle which I liked the results even though I didnt take enough dosage. Worst cycle I ever took was Andriol ( Testosterone undecanoate ) Capsules. They were red capsules. Worst sides least gains.

 

[Slyder190]

Limp dick would be my main concern.

 

[STENOX666]

I have just been thinking lately that what good is a great build if i'm covered in zits and am to ashamed to even take my shirt off! Just trying to weigh out the pro's and cons! I know the results would be much better with test but at what trade off! I was planning on using prop @ 100mg/eod, still have 6 weeks to decide!

Shoot prop ED or EOD!

Well when you shoot it ED or EOD at yours doses, yeah 50mg to you seems very low. As for myself a non test user until this shot, yes only one 50 mg shot. I felt it.

 

[AAP]

I didn't use test my first cycle and got great results.

 

[Mavy]

Screw test. I think that I will be cutting it out of all my cycles very soon. I dont have a problem with wood so there is really no need for me to run it. Anabolics work much better for me. I experience more sides than gains with test. If i do run it now, it will be on short cycles, as a very mild dose. I am thinking that depending on how my next cycle goes that I am only going to run NPP+dbol+var for 4 wks a few times per year. If I do add test into that cycle, it will be omnas, 500mgs on day 1, and 250mgs, on day 7. THat will be it.

Mavy

Mavy

 

[juicedbeachbum]

I love test. It will be in all of my cycles. High test dosages are the best.

 

[the_only_sepe]

I didn't use test my first cycle and got great results.

Biiatch your a genetic freak and grow off of orange juice!

 

[the_only_sepe]

I dont use test(AS) anymore, I feel I can make better gains with a perfected diet, its working great so far

 

[Fat_Sumo]

Well when you shoot it ED or EOD at yours doses, yeah 50mg to you seems very low. As for myself a non test user until this shot, yes only one 50 mg shot. I felt it.

Regardless of what I have done, 1 50mg shot for anyone is not alot!