which roid shuts you down the hardest?

[5x10]

which roid is the most suppresive on the bodys own production?

ive always wondered what the mechanism is that triggers a "hard" shutdown

people say dec and trenbolone are the wrost, but IMO, test would shut you down the hardest

test is exactly what our own body produces so it only seems logical that a massive amt of the same compund our body produces would shut us down the hardest

a bodybuilder buddy of mine said the main mechanism the body uses to determine the amt of test in our system is the amt of estrogen it recognizes
too much estrogen, and your body stops producing its own test

test aromitizes as much as any other

i do know trenbolone and Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - aromitize into a progesteron and im not really sure how that inhibits our own production

anyone care to educate me on this topic

thanks!

EDIT: this post is not asking what shuts you down personally, but which steriod in general is the hardest on the body own production

if its Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - or trenbolone, can someone explain why its harder than test.
is it the progesteron?
sorry for the confusion, i should have titled it differently

 

[OMEGA]

Tren and Deca

 

[bluetwistedsteel67]

deca shuts me down worse than anything else. Tren, not so bad, but then I may just be in denial because i love the effects of tren so much. haha

 

[X Man]

Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - shuts me down worse than anything else. trenbolone, not so bad, but then I may just be in denial because i love the effects of trenbolone so much. haha

100% agree tren kills me

 

[todoveritas]

Trenbolone, without a doubt.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Depends on what you mean -- actual HPTA suppression? In that case it's tren and test. But dec and drol increase prog which brings its own set of problems. Anthony would know the actual science on this in regard to which cause the most damage over time.

 

[bbkingpin]

I've heard test suspension and tren.

 

[todoveritas]

Yes, Anthony Roberts wrote a good article about the binding affinity of Tr3n in which he correctly noted its high androgenicity (5X greater than t3st) and its great affinity for binding with the AR receptor. Maybe he could post the link.

 

[JarheadChiro]

Tren, Deca and D-bol.
Oh and if I combine them, oh shit!

 

[5x10]

Depends on what you mean -- actual hpta - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - suppression? In that case it's trenbolone and test. But dec and Anadrol 50 - oxymetholone - increase prog which brings its own set of problems. Anthony would know the actual science on this in regard to which cause the most damage over time.

thats exactly what im talking about
so that would mean that test is more suppresive than deca right?