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Which of these 2 do you prefer

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UFC22

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1-12 - Cyp 500mgs/EW
1-14 - Proviron 50mgs/ED
1-8 - Anavar 60mgs/ED

OR

1-12 - Eq 600mgs/EW (frontload 1200mgs wks 1&2)
1-14 - proviron 50mgs/ED
1-8 - Anavar 60mgs/ED

Which of these cycles do you prefer. My goal is to stay lean drop BF and add a few lbs of lean body mass. This will be my 4th cycle. Im leaning more towards the test cycle but am wondering if I will add to much water weight. Will proviron be enough to keep down the bloat from test or should I add letro or AIFM? I am a fighter so you can see why I would like to keep bloat to a minimum. Since I will be training mma & weight-training would test be the best choice for keeping lbm and droping some bf?
 
never done eq but Im running 1ml of sust oed ..875mg ed with 50-75 mg of proviron ed and not holding much water at all Ive lost quite a bit of fat and gaind about 10lbs so far...Im trying to cut up as well so cals are low ..streanth is up quite a bit to, Ive just started to do a bit off mma myself
bjj and mauy thai and I found that test helps with concentration and give you the extra edge,
Id go with cycle one with a bit of aromasin or aifm
 
never done eq but Im running 1ml of sust oed ..875mg ed with 50-75 mg of proviron ed and not holding much water at all Ive lost quite a bit of fat and gaind about 10lbs so far...Im trying to cut up as well so cals are low ..streanth is up quite a bit to, Ive just started to do a bit off mma myself
bjj and mauy thai and I found that test helps with concentration and give you the extra edge,
Id go with cycle one with a bit of aromasin or aifm
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So since you suggest aromasin or AIFM are you using it yourself?
 
Yeah currently i'm running Eq and will most likely run it for 18 weeks. It's week 7 now and feeling realy good but I cannot distinguish between the tren and eq. I'm probly feeling the tren since Eq is fairly mild.
 
why are you running proviron.....I would used to bridge cycles not during a cycle...you will be running your test with cypionate????
 
UFC22 said:
1-12 - Cyp 500mgs/EW
1-14 - Proviron 50mgs/ED
1-8 - Anavar 60mgs/ED

OR

1-12 - Eq 600mgs/EW (frontload 1200mgs wks 1&2)
1-14 - proviron 50mgs/ED
1-8 - Anavar 60mgs/ED

Which of these cycles do you prefer. My goal is to stay lean drop BF and add a few lbs of lean body mass. This will be my 4th cycle. Im leaning more towards the test cycle but am wondering if I will add to much water weight. Will proviron be enough to keep down the bloat from test or should I add letro or AIFM? I am a fighter so you can see why I would like to keep bloat to a minimum. Since I will be training mma & weight-training would test be the best choice for keeping lbm and droping some bf?
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Your first cycle is better, just cut the proviron down to 12 weeks (at the most) and go with letro - .25-.5mgs ED (good range to start). It'll keep you dry.
 
Advisor_x said:
why are you running proviron.....I would used to bridge cycles not during a cycle...you will be running your test with cypionate????
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I personally would use it during a cycle as opposed to during PCT or after......proviron works synergistically with other AAS, making them more effective, most notably test.... it also decreases SHBG allowing more free test in the body and as a result increased libido....and it's stated that proviron has lipolytic effects when combined with test because test increases androgen receptors to which proviron biinds nicely... oh, and proviron also has some anti-estrogen effects
 
UFC22 said:
1-12 - Cyp 500mgs/EW
1-14 - Proviron 50mgs/ED
1-8 - Anavar 60mgs/ED

OR

1-12 - Eq 600mgs/EW (frontload 1200mgs wks 1&2)
1-14 - proviron 50mgs/ED
1-8 - Anavar 60mgs/ED

Which of these cycles do you prefer. My goal is to stay lean drop BF and add a few lbs of lean body mass. This will be my 4th cycle. Im leaning more towards the test cycle but am wondering if I will add to much water weight. Will proviron be enough to keep down the bloat from test or should I add letro or AIFM? I am a fighter so you can see why I would like to keep bloat to a minimum. Since I will be training mma & weight-training would test be the best choice for keeping lbm and droping some bf?
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The first one ............................................
 
UFC22 said:
Mr.X how about AIFM in place of the letro?
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Letrozole all the way bro ;) if you are not going with letro, go with Aromasin or Arimidex :coffee:
 
UFC22 said:
1-12 - Cyp 500mgs/EW
1-14 - Proviron 50mgs/ED
1-8 - Anavar 60mgs/ED

OR

1-12 - Eq 600mgs/EW (frontload 1200mgs wks 1&2)
1-14 - proviron 50mgs/ED
1-8 - Anavar 60mgs/ED

Which of these cycles do you prefer. My goal is to stay lean drop BF and add a few lbs of lean body mass. This will be my 4th cycle. Im leaning more towards the test cycle but am wondering if I will add to much water weight. Will proviron be enough to keep down the bloat from test or should I add letro or AIFM? I am a fighter so you can see why I would like to keep bloat to a minimum. Since I will be training mma & weight-training would test be the best choice for keeping lbm and droping some bf?
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i see no reason to run the proviron with an eq only cycle.
 
i like option two, lvtitan wassup bro, you don't really lose your libido on anything, i used to be the same way but now i run proviron. love it. option 2 all the way side free, very similar to what i am doing, run it for 14-20 weeks
 
Thanks for the advise guys. I truly would not need proviron if I was running option 2. I never have probs w/ libido. Currently running tren/eq & at about wk 8. I ran deca only in the past for 12-15wks cannot remember precisely, but I did not have any libido issues either.
 
I am leaning towards cycle number 1 at the moment since I am running Eq right now. I am going to be starting up mma again and am just wondering if the test will hold me back in any-way. Test has no negative effects on cardio from what I know from my research. If I can keep bloat to a minimum would test/var be the better decision?
 
Ok I am 90% positive this will be my upcoming run:

1-12 - T-Cyp 500mgs/EW
1- 8 - Var 60mgs/ED
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1-12 - Proviron 50mgs/ED
1-16 - AIFM

I think the proviron/AIFM combo will help me keep of all the water.
 
sounds good, though i think your crazy to not run eq being an mma, but sounds good, just keep that water weight off, i know when i was on 500mg of test e i couldn't make it up stairs not winded. i was on adex which is not as good with water retention but still
 
second one. if you want test, add prop. pain in the arse, males would have to inject eod to keep levels, but it has minimal bloat.
 
dude...I would definatly keep the eq...i love the high RBC count cant go wrong with that...Var is also good for fighting....I love it...I havent tried halo yet but I am gonna give it a whirl before my next fight in the end of june...
As far as test...there are some guys on test at my gym....the get winded so fast....personally from what I have seen I would stay away from it while in competition mode....do it in the off season....then when you get your gains go back to fighting....but I wouldnt do it while fighting
 
sounds good, though i think your crazy to not run eq being an mma, but sounds good, just keep that water weight off, i know when i was on 500mg of test e i couldn't make it up stairs not winded. i was on adex which is not as good with water retention but still
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So test affected your cardio then? Damn....Maybe I will go with an Eq/Var cycle. Hey bruce if i dont have problems w/ libido while not running test should i even use it?
 
bruce410 said:
sounds good, though i think your crazy to not run eq being an mma, but sounds good, just keep that water weight off, i know when i was on 500mg of test e i couldn't make it up stairs not winded. i was on adex which is not as good with water retention but still
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Id say test helps with cardio Im on 875mg per week now and I bike to the gym and back ..16mile round trip ..train and do some cardio ,usally some heavy bag work I also do a biot of a bit of grappling bjj,jj and abit of mauy thai and test has in no way impared my fitness ,
but were all differant,were you taking any ai when on to much water retention can cause problems with breathing
 
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