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Which is more suitable for our goals?

roids4life

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Hello guys, I hope everyone is doing well, I need some advice from you guys.

Im planning on starting my first cycle, but I'm not sure weather to start of with test Enanthate only or test Enanthate AND dianabol. My fat percentage is 16-17% and my goal is to gain lean muscle.

Test Enanthate only plan:
Weeks 1 – 10:
- Testosterone Enanthate at 500mg/week


Test Enanthate and Dbol plan:
- Testosterone Enanthate at 500mg/week
Weeks 1 – 4:
- Dianabol at 25mg/day

Which is better in your opinion test e only or test e with dbol?

Moreover, my friend its his first cycle too, he practices MMA and his main concern is to gain more strength and speed, he lifts weights regularly and practices MMA too. He's thinking of taking Test e/ test propionate with anavar for 8 weeks. Would a cycle like this help him gain speed/strength or is theres a better cycle for that?

Lastly, what would be a good PCT and do I need to take liv52 if I'm on test e cycle only or test e and dbol?

Thank you in advance, all replies are appreciated.
 
why test only tho? Doesn't test with dbol give you more gains for a first cycle?

First of all, lose the "first cycle gains" thing. It;s a myth that your first cycle is the most effective.

Sure, using more gives more result. But you can add more of one compound.

Personally, I like Primo fro a first cycle because it'd be very easy to recover from.

Test and dianabol have similar anabolic/androgenic ratios, so it makes no sense to stack them. Pick one or the other.
 
I do believe your first cycle is always best because your fresher than you ever will be again. However dbol isn't really as great as every one says for mass so I'll agree with Nelson on that aspect.
 
Ohh so is 500mg a week of test good for first cycle? plus what do you think of my friends cycle, would anavar and test be good for a first cycle but his aim isn't muscle gains, its speed and strength
 
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