Which Is A Tougher Soldier? A Marine Recon, Seal, Or Ranger?

[Spartacus]

Thanks, it doesn't take long for it to be more than you like!

BTW, the Medal of Honor is no longer referred to as the "congressional" medal of honor. Most folks don't know that, it's just what they've always heard.

There are some guys in my Bn that were in somalia when that went down, deep caca there, buddy.

...thanks for the info,I was going to just type "medal of honor",but then thought I was shortchanging the award by abridging it,so I put it as i did..shows what I know eh?..btw,I've seen blackhawk down about 3 times on DVD,but I always get loaded while watching my war movies(that way I can watch em multiple times and its always fresh)and i can't recall if these 2 delta guy's actions were depicted accurately..any info from those in the know?...I do know that much of "we were soldiers" was hollywood..but hell what those two did didn't reguire any hollywood gloss

 

[MattTheSkywalker]

I have trained with all of them. They're all tough.

Physically, the toughest are Force Recon Marines.

I was an Army Ranger.

 

[DP38]

I think we can say that everybody who makes the special forces, in any country, is tough.

 

[distanced]

hoorah Marine Corp. uh uh Kill

 

[Lao Tzu]

Well, I can say there arent a whole lot of them, and like I said most people even in the military dont know them. They were in Iraq working up north with the Kurds a year before we recently went in, and a few of them were actually killed by our own SF guys, obviously they were deeply undercover.

They are James Bond type men, Im talking about wristwatches that explode exactly 30 minutes after the soldier wearing it dies (on the wrist, so it can feel a pulse). Kinda discourages you from stealing a dead soldiers watch.

I have never tried searching for info on them online but maybe you can find some. If not let me know.

i cant find any info on the virginia boys

Were they the ones who tapped the phone lines and lived in Iraq for a year or so or was that Delta force?

 

[The Republican]

i cant find any info on the virginia boys

Were they the ones who tapped the phone lines and lived in Iraq for a year or so or was that Delta force?

I know that they (a good number of them) were in Iraq long before the war started, I believe right after 9/11 they were "deployed" to the Kurdish area. It is amazing, these guys go through a complete transformation. One of the reasons our SF guys nailed a few of them was because they looked like Iraqis.

I am not certain about the specific scenario your mentioned, but Delta is usually used for anti-terrorism, so that phone deal seems for fit for the Green Berets if I had to chose one of them.

 

[Godzila]

I am active duty Marine right now, so I am going to go with Force recon. But I believe they all have there place, like SeALs, are primarily hostage rescue and anti-terrosim, while regular battlion Recon Marines are strictly intel-gathering...I don't know much about Delta or the Rangers. I know the Marine Corps is starting up a new Spec-ops unit, that is supposed to combine the best of all branches....it is currently up and running from what I understand and has approx 80 members.

..as far as the "exploding wrist-watch" story can you validate that? All spec-ops have a motto of never leaving anyone behind, so if a comrade is shot and dies while someone is trying to rescue his body, then they would kill 2 men. and it is not realistic to say "they are trained to take the watch off the person and discard before he dies" in a situation like that the last thing a man would think is "wait, i have bullets whizzing past my balls, but let me get homeboys watch off first" This would be assumed in the design phase of this "watch' if it ever did exist in the first place. Sorry, this just sounded like some Hollywood shit to me..

 

[The Republican]

I am active duty Marine right now, so I am going to go with Force recon. But I believe they all have there place, like SeALs, are primarily hostage rescue and anti-terrosim, while regular battlion Recon Marines are strictly intel-gathering...I don't know much about Delta or the Rangers. I know the Marine Corps is starting up a new Spec-ops unit, that is supposed to combine the best of all branches....it is currently up and running from what I understand and has approx 80 members.

..as far as the "exploding wrist-watch" story can you validate that? All spec-ops have a motto of never leaving anyone behind, so if a comrade is shot and dies while someone is trying to rescue his body, then they would kill 2 men. and it is not realistic to say "they are trained to take the watch off the person and discard before he dies" in a situation like that the last thing a man would think is "wait, i have bullets whizzing past my balls, but let me get homeboys watch off first" This would be assumed in the design phase of this "watch' if it ever did exist in the first place. Sorry, this just sounded like some Hollywood shit to me..

I apologize that I have no documented proof of this, but I did work Army counterintelligence for more than 10 years. This is simply what one of the Virginia Boys told me.

Keep in mind there are not that many of them, and their purpose is not to be involved in "battles" as we know them. From what I understand they work in very small teams.

And if the wristwatch seems too "Hollywood," then you certainly wont believe some of the other stuff some of these guys have done/used.

 

[Godzila]

I apologize that I have no documented proof of this, but I did work Army counterintelligence for more than 10 years. This is simply what one of the Virginia Boys told me.

Keep in mind there are not that many of them, and their purpose is not to be involved in "battles" as we know them. From what I understand they work in very small teams.

And if the wristwatch seems too "Hollywood," then you certainly wont believe some of the other stuff some of these guys have done/used.

well that makes more sense then. If they are NSA/CIA/Spook types then they don't give a shit about bringing back dead bodies and would more than likely prefer to destroy them, for lack of identity....do you remember any other things they mentioned....I have never heard of "Virginia boys" do you know what agency or branch of service they worked for...stuff like that intrigues me. i wish i would have gotten into that type of thing when I started out. I know I would have at least made it to Recon, but that is actually fairly easy.

 

[The Republican]

well that makes more sense then. If they are NSA/CIA/Spook types then they don't give a shit about bringing back dead bodies and would more than likely prefer to destroy them, for lack of identity....do you remember any other things they mentioned....I have never heard of "Virginia boys" do you know what agency or branch of service they worked for...stuff like that intrigues me. i wish i would have gotten into that type of thing when I started out. I know I would have at least made it to Recon, but that is actually fairly easy.

Well, what I can tell you is that they recruit from all different branches of the armed services. Obviously, they pick the cream of the crop from the various special ops teams.

We didnt get to talking about training, but I DO know that for Delta they always, and I mean always, reject you the first 2 times. It is basically like having to go through SEAL training at least 3 times, so I cant even begin to imagine what the training regimen is like for the Virginia Boys. Im retired now so I am probably going to have to die not knowing much more. Of course, I cant really talk to you about certain subjects we talked about, e.g. what they have been involved in in the past.