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When to shoot GH

This is the original post from before "platinum", reposted thanks to XXL. Some where back there in the archives is another post which shows by photo the differences in results with GH based on the "stack" used. One pic shows results after 12 weeks with a tapering back of test and insulin and a switch to anabolics at the 8 week mark, and the other shows results running heavy test and insulin clear through.
I generally believe that insulin should be injected with GH to counteract the body's down-regulation of insulin sensitivity in response to exogenous GH. So, yes, there is an effect on the absorption of carbs. You can experience low blood sugar problems, otherwise.
Late night would be fine........you will sleep like a baby, but you would also want to ingest some complex carbs if you were to fire up a little insulin with the GH. I get up to eat at least once during the night....that's why I have some posts at weird times....and have done what you suggested. But it seems to work fine for me on a 2 a day schedule during the flat times AM and late afternoon. That way I can get the timing exact on carb and protein intake.
Exogenous GH also suppresses the production of insulin growth factors (igf-1, etc) so the ideal stack includes an oral steroid, like dbol, which generates IGF-1 production on the first pass through the liver.
BB'ers who get great results from GH do so because they pay attention to details......GH timing, insulin, IGF, and nutrient intake timing.
And, of course, lots of test!
 
Thanks Ironmaster.

One more question. Could low doses of T3 be used to combat the supression of IGF1??

Say for someone who can not take Dbol due to testing reasons.

Thanks again
Nautica
 
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ironmaster said:
This is the original post from before "platinum", reposted thanks to XXL. Some where back there in the archives is another post which shows by photo the differences in results with GH based on the "stack" used. One pic shows results after 12 weeks with a tapering back of test and insulin and a switch to anabolics at the 8 week mark, and the other shows results running heavy test and insulin clear through.
I generally believe that insulin should be injected with GH to counteract the body's down-regulation of insulin sensitivity in response to exogenous GH. So, yes, there is an effect on the absorption of carbs. You can experience low blood sugar problems, otherwise.
Late night would be fine........you will sleep like a baby, but you would also want to ingest some complex carbs if you were to fire up a little insulin with the GH. I get up to eat at least once during the night....that's why I have some posts at weird times....and have done what you suggested. But it seems to work fine for me on a 2 a day schedule during the flat times AM and late afternoon. That way I can get the timing exact on carb and protein intake.
Exogenous GH also suppresses the production of insulin growth factors (igf-1, etc) so the ideal stack includes an oral steroid, like dbol, which generates IGF-1 production on the first pass through the liver.
BB'ers who get great results from GH do so because they pay attention to details......GH timing, insulin, IGF, and nutrient intake timing.
And, of course, lots of test!
what about for cutting purposes?? should slin be used when cutting?? i would think that it shouldnt because of the excess carbs turning into fat, or going hypo and downing some orange juice to make up for it, meanwhile those carbs turn to fat as well.....:confused:
 
nautica said:
Thanks Ironmaster.

One more question. Could low doses of T3 be used to combat the supression of IGF1??

Say for someone who can not take Dbol due to testing reasons.

Thanks again
Nautica

Yes, and perhaps start the cycle with an oral (I prefer anadrol), and finish with the T3. I hesitate to use T3 more than a couple weeks.....that gland is easily fried. I'm already stuck for life on test and GH. that's enough. If testing is a concern, try anavar, and quit it at 8 weeks. Finish with the T3.

Jonathan, if you use that cycle I posted, it won't be a problem. At the 8 week mark bump the GH a couple units a day, taper back the insulin and test (but not all the way), and and switch to fina, eq and winstrol to finish. I promise you will be big and ripped.
 
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