When natural test at 272 ng/dl meets 500mgs of TEST...

[gymrat surfer]

So 5 years later on no sauce, my natural test levels are at 272ng/dl. Terrible!

So when I start my cycle I will use...
EQ 500MG
TEST 500MG

Where do you think my ng/dl TEST levels will be 8 weeks into cycle? Of course I will answer my own question when I get blood work done, but hypotheticaly...

If my ng/dl test came out at 600-800ng/dl
would that mean someone who's natural levels are at the same as 'me on AAS' could make just as good gains naturally while i'm on steroids?



Just wondering...

 

[OMEGA]

at 500 u should be far above that

 

[gymrat surfer]

What is the highest testosterone levels someone can safely reach on AAS in terms of blood work ng/dl test levels?

 

[ghettostudmuffin]

I would guess that's a pretty individual thing.

Only occasional tests could tell each person whether or not they are ok using X amount of testosterone on a weekly basis for an indefinite amount of time.

I have heard of guys having severe bloat, nipple soreness and hair problems on as little as 250mg a week. I use 500mg and really don't notice much other than a little bloat and rapidly enhanced recovery speed.

As for how high your test levels will be on 500mg who knows, but I would guess it will be at minimum over high normal levels. 500mgs ew if it's strictly a long ester is roughly the equivalent to 50-70+mg active test each day which is 5-7x the amount a healthy young male produces.

 

[XMAN.]

This study was conducted on 61 eugonadal men, 18–35 yr, were randomized to one of five groups to receive monthly injections of a long-acting gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH) agonist, to suppress endogenous testosterone secretion, and weekly injections of 25, 50, 125, 300, or 600 mg of testosterone enanthate for 20 wk

press the link for full info : Testosterone dose-response relationships in healthy young men ? AJP - Endo

this table shows the results of Serum total and free testosterone, LH, FSH, SHBG, and IGF-I levels after 16 weeks.
Testosterone dose-response relationships in healthy young men ? AJP - Endo

 

[Nelson Montana]

Few things..

800 is actually a very high natural level.

The free test is more of factor in how much muscle you put on.

Steroids also have the anabolic factor, which has more to do with growth than the androgenic aspect.