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When is the crash supposed to start?
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DIVISION said:You'll feel it in a week or so.......
Don't say we didn't warn you, Brad.
God may save your soul, but he sure as fuck won't save your hard earned gains, or your nuts for that matter....
DIV
I've done roids on and off for nearly as long as you have been alive. Years ago, I didn't know anything about tapering off and there were no ancillaries. If I continued to work out and eat right, I lost very little strenght and my sex drive always came back. I will lose very little weight, maybe a little strength and that is it.
needtogetas said:
I just went over all pm's I've had with you. I see nothing that you might have mistaken for a lie. I have lied before, everyone has. Anyone that says that they hate a liar, hates theirself. But, you have habitual liars and those that tell lies to get their butt out of trouble, if you catch my drift.
biteme said:
it depends on what you're doing for pct, if any. it depends on how you train, eat and rest when coming off. id say 4-6 weeks after your last aas dose is when it becomes a real bitch to hold on to the strength and muscle. if im correct you're the guy who was on for like 3 years no? this is what you're gunna need to do for the next three months or there abouts...
eat high, quality calories
get lots of healthy fats
tons of protein
keep up on your multivitamin supps, flaxoil, vitamin C
use hcg (if you arent all ready)
avoid the treadmill like the plague
train very carefully, you forgot what its like to train like a mortal
use low volume, high intensity training (if you try to train FLEX bb style (1000sets to failure per bodypart) you will overtrain faster than you can say depression)
get plenty of rest
get bloodwork and post it up!!! that way some of the really smart bros on here can tell you what you need to do
sparetire
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i'm almost 3 weeks out myself and the little guys haven't plumped up yet! wtf.. I'll have to get hcg for my next cycle. (just doing a-dex, nolva, sups) from a test/eq cycle (17 weeks). everything works just fine tho.. 
how long does it take for the nuts to get big? I forgot how long it took from my first cycle, (eq/winny) but from what i remember it didn't take this long.. plus, i'm still vascular as hell and i benched 315 x3 reps today...so i must have some of that gear in me still...
no depression...
how long does it take for the nuts to get big? I forgot how long it took from my first cycle, (eq/winny) but from what i remember it didn't take this long.. plus, i'm still vascular as hell and i benched 315 x3 reps today...so i must have some of that gear in me still... no depression...
gymratforlife
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I make it a habit to run HCG through all my cycles at 500ius thrown in randomly when I see my too much shrinking of the twins.
Dieselgoku23
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Best advice here so far!!!!. I say take lots of L-Glutamine I recommend G plenish stuff is awesome, also ZMA plus Tribulus and ofcourse your acillaries, Clomid and HCG. Also to avoid high cortisol levels have some 7oxo-dhea there is a product call Dermabolics is trandermal(topical solution) stuff works pretty good and keep your work outs nice and short!!! and no no cardio till your testosterone levels are back to normal! just my .02 cents
|3ossman said:
biteme said:
needtogetas is talking about you lying about your intentions to stay on AAS for the rest of your life and then lying to all of us and to God by changing your mind. There's no coming back from that, you lied.
biteme said:
I know you'll come back to the DarkSide.....Once you cross over you can never be turned. Search your feelings......you know it be true!
Give in to your hate, Brad......Give in to the DarkSide.......
DIV
Ah. My evil detractor. The one person on this board that can make me angry. YOU because you are a liar. God give me the strength to deal with people like Division.DIVISION said:needtogetas is talking about you lying about your intentions to stay on AAS for the rest of your life and then lying to all of us and to God by changing your mind. There's no coming back from that, you lied.
I know you'll come back to the DarkSide.....Once you cross over you can never be turned. Search your feelings......you know it be true!
Give in to your hate, Brad......Give in to the DarkSide.......
Ah. My evil detractor. The one person on this board that can make me angry. YOU because you are a liar. God give me the strength to deal with people like Division.
DIV
Steve The Bluesman
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Sometimes this place turns into drama central. 
What sense does it make to call people out when they lie to THEMSELVES?!? It is his life, his business. Who on here does it effect if he stays on gear for life, off for life, or never wipes his ass again? His relationship with his maker is even less of everyone's business - regardless of what he may have posted in the past.
This thread should be about advice to get this dude back to normal after 3 years on, not breaking his balls about it.
Biteme, Good luck to you - hope you get back to homeostasis.
Bluesman
What sense does it make to call people out when they lie to THEMSELVES?!? It is his life, his business. Who on here does it effect if he stays on gear for life, off for life, or never wipes his ass again? His relationship with his maker is even less of everyone's business - regardless of what he may have posted in the past.
This thread should be about advice to get this dude back to normal after 3 years on, not breaking his balls about it.
Biteme, Good luck to you - hope you get back to homeostasis.
Bluesman
WannaBeBig72
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Steve The Bluesman said:Sometimes this place turns into drama central.
What sense does it make to call people out when they lie to THEMSELVES?!? It is his life, his business. Who on here does it effect if he stays on gear for life, off for life, or never wipes his ass again? His relationship with his maker is even less of everyone's business - regardless of what he may have posted in the past.
This thread should be about advice to get this dude back to normal after 3 years on, not breaking his balls about it.
Biteme, Good luck to you - hope you get back to homeostasis.
Bluesman
I agree with you totally Bluesman. Who the fuck are these people to criticize him? I mean what the fuck??? Freaking weird man. Everyon has their own weird fucked up agenda on here. Leave the poor guy alone. I mean I lie to myself constantly. lol. Don't let these assholes get to you Biteme...
I cant understand why people cant read.
I aint breaking no-bodys balls over anything personally, what i dont like is people just wildly contradicting themselves about things. For example If he's calling Division a 'liar' about things even though he is himself then it just seems ridiculous. He also seems abit 'all over the place' not surprised after 3 years of roids. So advice is given to go seek professional help. If you dont want to thats entirely upto him of course, but dont go around calling people 'liar' in some sort of paranoid state even though they do themselves. Go seek some help instead.
I aint breaking no-bodys balls over anything personally, what i dont like is people just wildly contradicting themselves about things. For example If he's calling Division a 'liar' about things even though he is himself then it just seems ridiculous. He also seems abit 'all over the place' not surprised after 3 years of roids. So advice is given to go seek professional help. If you dont want to thats entirely upto him of course, but dont go around calling people 'liar' in some sort of paranoid state even though they do themselves. Go seek some help instead.
WannaBeBig72
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Get over yourself you stupid self-richteous piece of shit. Go look yourself in the mirror and see what you've become. They should ban assholes like you from the board. Get a life loser.ReAlLiFe said:
bicepts101
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slat1 said:This thread is going places...
you know bro?
they really need to make a relgious forum or something...cause i dont wanna hear this junk
the only thing im interested in his recovery thats it
WannaBeBig72
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bicepts101 said:
Yeah I think I got a little too angry at the guy. I was reading the boards this morning and saw Reallife posting all sorts of shit on this thread and the other one that biteme has. It just pissed me off a bit is all. My testosterone has been a bit elevated for the last 4 weeks or so...For some odd reason...
_Yossarian_
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wtf is going on in here?
wayneboard1
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WannaBeBig72 said:
I found they do have a religious type forum down at the bottom of the fourms main page. It's called "mind, spirit, soy milk"....something like that.
wayneboard1
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sparetire said:i'm almost 3 weeks out myself and the little guys haven't plumped up yet! wtf.. I'll have to get hcg for my next cycle. (just doing a-dex, nolva, sups) from a test/eq cycle (17 weeks). everything works just fine tho..
no depression...
Hey man u think it's taking longer because u didn't use HCG this time around? That sucks the boys aren't going full force but if everything works, thats a good thing.
RippedRule
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I Crashed HARD about 3 weeks out.
Started nolva/clomid and feeling much better. Although I'm PISSED at myself. I've been out of the gym for a couple weeks do to being crazy busy. I'm losing it faster than you can imagine. It's sickening
Started nolva/clomid and feeling much better. Although I'm PISSED at myself. I've been out of the gym for a couple weeks do to being crazy busy. I'm losing it faster than you can imagine. It's sickening
asianlover
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slat1 said:This thread is going places...
ye hopefully the womens forum where it belongs
wayneboard1
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|3ossman said:of course that's why. not a good idea to run test for 17 weeks and go off cold turkey with no hcg. that's a good way to get on hrt though.
and lets keep the preaching to a minimum huh guys
Thanks for your input.
_Yossarian_
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pudding said:
1st cycle bro? How long were you on for? what gear were you using ?
18 days. No crash yet. As a matter of fact, I did 30 reps on the seated bench with the same weight that I have previously never done for more than 25. I'm sure there's an explanation for it. I've been working out more than 26 years and I know my body, my strength is relatively constant. I just got stronger for some reason.
bicepts101 said:
You guys got a point, I'll lay off biteme......
It's just that it kills me when he calls me a liar when all I've tried to do was convince him that PCT is necessary when you've been on 3 years and suddenly quit cold turkey.
The guy's hardheaded, but you can't say I haven't tried to help him.
DIV
DIVISION said:
You know why I called you a liar. It had nothing to do with your PCT advice and you know it. You keep claiming that I'm depressed and I've told you that I am not. You twist things around for your own agenda. You claimed to have talked to people that I've met in person off the board that verify that I'm depressed. I've only met 1 person from this board and you should know better than that.
Latest update. Nearly 5 weeks clean. I have gained 4 to 6 lbs and I have erections in my sleep and believe me, I don't have a problem with sex drive. Test should have dipped to it's lowest point by the 5th week off. I won't discredit the possibility of God helping out, still a liitle early yet.
_Yossarian_
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biteme said:
wow bro, thats awesome for you. Very hard to believe someone your age that has been on for so long is feeling no crash whatsoever. Hope it stays that way for you
gjohnson5
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biteme said:
You may have already answered this in a previous post , but did you take the same testosterone for the entire time or were you cycling different tests?
I was under the understanding that even with an "always on" type cycle , you really should cycle drugs every 8 weeks or so
gjohnson5 said:
I took QV test the entire time. Except for the last 10 weeks or so I was taking a UG brand. Test was my base and I did 2 cyles of anavar, 1 cycle of EQ (stopped at 6 weeks) and 2 years ago I did deca. Other than that, it was always test. I don't know why you would cycle from test to another drug. Many guys use test all the time as their base drug.
gjohnson5
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biteme said:
I prolly shouldn't say this but I'm going to anyway... one of Spellwin's Ebooks says the number 3 most common problem with steriod use is never ending a cycle. That point says that the effects of the drug wear off after week 12. So Is it possible that you body became so accustom to the drug that it was in essence ignored and hence no crash???
gjohnson5 said:
Spellwin's book is more than likely wrong. Tell that to the professional BB"s that never come off. Or to guys on HRT. Does the HRT dose become ineffective after 12 weeks? This has been debated numerous times. There is no downregulation of the receptor sites. Good thought though.
Bruce
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i did 13 weeks of deca 600 a week. 3 weeks out no crash felt great. 5 weeks bam i step on the scale and 4 lbs gone. water probably so its cool. then i must admit i am not as amped to hit the gym, when i am on thats all i think about, my crash is a lack of motivation and it comes a month off, think the shit was still helping me even 3 weeks out cause the pumps were awesome, now theyre normal again nothing special. good luck biteme
