When is the crash supposed to start?

[sparetire]

i'm almost 3 weeks out myself and the little guys haven't plumped up yet! wtf.. I'll have to get hcg for my next cycle. (just doing a-dex, nolva, sups) from a test/eq cycle (17 weeks). everything works just fine tho.. how long does it take for the nuts to get big? I forgot how long it took from my first cycle, (eq/winny) but from what i remember it didn't take this long.. plus, i'm still vascular as hell and i benched 315 x3 reps today...so i must have some of that gear in me still...

no depression...

 

[biteme]

Thank you all for the suggestions. I really appreciate that.

 

[gymratforlife]

I make it a habit to run HCG through all my cycles at 500ius thrown in randomly when I see my too much shrinking of the twins.

 

[gjohnson5]

I lied to you about knowing a source you say. No, I did not. BUt think about this, you appear out of nowhere and I've never met you and you think I'd tell you about a source???? This is why I'm getting away from this stuff.

I wouldn't tell someone I didnt know anything either...

 

[Dieselgoku23]

Best advice here so far!!!!. I say take lots of L-Glutamine I recommend G plenish stuff is awesome, also ZMA plus Tribulus and ofcourse your acillaries, Clomid and HCG. Also to avoid high cortisol levels have some 7oxo-dhea there is a product call Dermabolics is trandermal(topical solution) stuff works pretty good and keep your work outs nice and short!!! and no no cardio till your testosterone levels are back to normal! just my .02 cents

it depends on what you're doing for pct, if any. it depends on how you train, eat and rest when coming off. id say 4-6 weeks after your last aas dose is when it becomes a real bitch to hold on to the strength and muscle. if im correct you're the guy who was on for like 3 years no? this is what you're gunna need to do for the next three months or there abouts...

eat high, quality calories
get lots of healthy fats
tons of protein
keep up on your multivitamin supps, flaxoil, vitamin C
use hcg (if you arent all ready)
avoid the treadmill like the plague
train very carefully, you forgot what its like to train like a mortal
use low volume, high intensity training (if you try to train FLEX bb style (1000sets to failure per bodypart) you will overtrain faster than you can say depression)
get plenty of rest
get bloodwork and post it up!!! that way some of the really smart bros on here can tell you what you need to do

 

[help4john]

Years ago, I didn't know anything about tapering off and there were no ancillaries. If I continued to work out and eat right, I lost very little strenght and my sex drive always came back.

I remember that too! Never had Clomid, Nolvadex, Arimidex, etc.....just ate more to keep the gains. It's funny.....gyno never was very prevalent, folks didn't complain about peanut sized nuts, 2cc/wk Test was a "Pansy" dose.....my how times have changed.

 

[DIVISION]

Whoa there bro. Explain. Say it in the open.

needtogetas is talking about you lying about your intentions to stay on AAS for the rest of your life and then lying to all of us and to God by changing your mind. There's no coming back from that, you lied.

This is why I'm getting away from this stuff.

I know you'll come back to the DarkSide.....Once you cross over you can never be turned. Search your feelings......you know it be true!

Give in to your hate, Brad......Give in to the DarkSide.......







DIV

 

[biteme]

needtogetas is talking about you lying about your intentions to stay on AAS for the rest of your life and then lying to all of us and to God by changing your mind. There's no coming back from that, you lied.



I know you'll come back to the DarkSide.....Once you cross over you can never be turned. Search your feelings......you know it be true!

Give in to your hate, Brad......Give in to the DarkSide.......

Ah. My evil detractor. The one person on this board that can make me angry. YOU because you are a liar. God give me the strength to deal with people like Division.







DIV

Ah. My evil detractor. The one person on this board that can make me angry. YOU because you are a liar. God give me the strength to deal with people like Division.

 

[ReAlLiFe]

Arent you a liar also? arent you on roids for the rest of your life? God give him the strength to see his own dilusion. Tell me one thing Biteme honestly, are you happy you've done steroids?

ReAlLiFe.

 

[ReAlLiFe]

Your a fool who diludes himself about himself. How can you be honest to God when your not honest to yourself?