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When does "time off" begin

all depends on the half lifes of the substance, typically you wait 3 weeks after your last shot and start pct for 3 weeks if you want to keep what you gained in your cycle.
 
Here are the half lifes of each steroid:

Oral steroids Drug Active half-life
Anadrol / Anapolan50 (oxymetholone) 8 to 9 hours
Anavar (oxandrolone) 9 hours
Dianabol (methandrostenolone, methandienone) 4.5 to 6 hours
Methyltestosterone 4 days
Winstrol (stanozolol)
(tablets or depot taken orally) 9 hours



Depot steroids Drug Active half-life
Deca-durabolin (Nandrolone decanate) 15 days
Equipoise 14 days
Finaject (trenbolone acetate) 3 days
Primobolan (methenolone enanthate) 10.5 days
Sustanon or Omnadren 15 to 18 days
(I have now seen data from a lab tech 'proving' that EOD is neccessary for good blood levels with sust)
Testosterone Cypionate 12 days
Testosterone Enanthate 10.5 days
Testosterone Propionate 4.5 days
Testosterone Suspension 1 day
* Winstrol (stanozolol) 1 day
 
If you use Deca then the following would apply ???
10 weeks on
3 weeks till PCT starts then 3 weeks on PCT.

So total is 16 weeks. Then 16 weeks off. (time on =time off)
So you are out 32 weeks.

This means only 3 cycles every 2 years ???????
 
after pct is complete
 
i think it should be at least time on = time off, however i would rather see time off being 2 x time on.
 
^^try and give better advice than that. Think about what you're saying and why before you post, and if its a joke, make it clear.
 
he asked and i say what i wrote....no joke.....time off starts a week after the last shot.this is been a standered with me and many others.
 
it may be a stanard to you and i don't know who else, but it should have some bearing on reality. You would say the same 1 week applies to deca as to winstrol?
 
spikemydog said:
he asked and i say what i wrote....no joke.....time off starts a week after the last shot.this is been a standered with me and many others.
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you're an idiot man...why dont read the whole thread man


what if he was on equipoise???=3week clearing time
what about deca=3 week clearing time
what about sustanan=3week clearing time
what about Test E=2 week clearing time
what about test cyp=2week clearing time

do you get my point or shall i go on????
 
no, please go on.

you must spread karma around before giving it to bicepts101 again.
 
ok same answer 1 week after the last shot.i know many diff types of sauce it would be different but he wasnt asking that in detail.no need to be name calling/seems like you have insecurity issues.
 
Well personally I didnt' call you any names but your "1 week" answer was meaningless and misleading to a noob.
 
spikemydog said:
ok same answer 1 week after the last shot.i know many diff types of sauce it would be different but he wasnt asking that in detail.no need to be name calling/seems like you have insecurity issues.
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Again YOU"RE AN IDIOT

ok his original post askes when does time off start, and is it after the last shot...then someone said it all DEPENDS ON THE HALF LIFE OF ESTERS...which is 100% correct

you later say this,"week after your last shot.oil based that is"

Umm..ok so i say you are a moron and are giving out the wrong advise. Then i go on and name some "oil based" esters and resume to put u in your place.

then you say,"ok same answer 1 week after the last shot.i know many diff types of sauce it would be different but he wasnt asking that in detail"

now please take your time in explaining to me why your answer is still 1 week?....please do so...cause ill be here everyday for a long time, so trust me i wont miss it.

do u even know why u do pct?....oh wait lemee answer for you...because your buddy said so...

this is how u get treated when u give out false advise then have the audacity to not admit you are wrong...come on bro...you lose take it like a man
 
jubei said:
Well personally I didnt' call you any names but your "1 week" answer was meaningless and misleading to a noob.
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hes a gym rat and doesnt know shit about this game....but yet thinks he knows it all...maybe now he sit back, grab some popcorn, and do the proper research before handing out some other stupid info that could detrimental to someones life.....
 
i popped some kernels to read your post that was usp 25 shit bor.
 
what did i lose? bicept101..... this is a discussion board right? just gave my personal opinion through my and other peoples experiances.ive never in my time had a problem and have never takin any anti eees.tryed clomid and wasnt impressed. again my personal opinion. geez many people stay on all the time now that is not healthy.
 
spikemydog said:
ok same answer 1 week after the last shot.i know many diff types of sauce it would be different but he wasnt asking that in detail.no need to be name calling/seems like you have insecurity issues.
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You my friend make a one-celled brainless animal look smart.
 
ok than you name calling guys answer me this one and ill stop trying to stick up for my self.......how come every so called (6 or 8 or 10 or whatever WEEK CYCLE) always ends 7 days after the last shot? so if you did sust 250 500mg for 10 weeks why is it that 7 days after the last shot is called a 10 WEEK CYCLE???????????????? and physed out///// im not your friend
 
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^^the answer is quite simply, the above statement is not true.
 
spikemydog said:
ok than you name calling guys answer me this one and ill stop trying to stick up for my self.......how come every so called (6 or 8 or 10 or whatever WEEK CYCLE) always ends 7 days after the last shot? so if you did sust 250 500mg for 10 weeks why is it that 7 days after the last shot is called a 10 WEEK CYCLE???????????????? and physed out///// im not your friend
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its not called a 10 weeks cycle you fucktard....its called a 16 week cycle.....3 weeks to let the drug clear and 3 weeks pct. again, you are an IDIOT!!!
 
spikemydog said:
what did i lose? bicept101..... this is a discussion board right? just gave my personal opinion through my and other peoples experiances.ive never in my time had a problem and have never takin any anti eees.tryed clomid and wasnt impressed. again my personal opinion. geez many people stay on all the time now that is not healthy.
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your personal opinion is WRONG buddy...either way im gonna teach you the right way....why try and be fuckin difficult...just listen to what i said...puss
 
hey dont care about green red what ever. you do though- this board must be your life- so what your saying is if someone did 2 shots for 2 weeks than that to you is a 8 week cycle......... your way off think about what you say there before posting.
 
The original question has been answered, albiet in a roundabout way. This is meaningless now.
 
spikemydog said:
hey dont care about green red what ever. you do though- this board must be your life- so what your saying is if someone did 2 shots for 2 weeks than that to you is a 8 week cycle......... your way off think about what you say there before posting.
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:doublefi: :mommakin:
 
haha thats actually quite amusing.
 
spikemydog said:
hey dont care about green red what ever. you do though- this board must be your life- so what your saying is if someone did 2 shots for 2 weeks than that to you is a 8 week cycle......... your way off think about what you say there before posting.
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its quite simple bigbird...ill explain this to ya so you can understand

the drug needs to clear your system before you start PCT...OK.....are u following me??....

SO.... Example: if u are doing a sust, EQ, or deca cycle. these drugs all take 3 weeks to clear your system. PCT cant be started till androgen levels are way down. which takes about 3 weeks. you cant put a blanket statment on oil based drugs and say to start PCT 1 week after all. Oil based winny? You dont have to wait a week for that only a couple days. or what about fina?...fina is oil based??.....
 
Spikemydog, Please dont post here again you obviously dont know what you are talking about, and apparently dont want to suck it up and learn. I myself am trying to learn about aas. Save your BullShit for another board. I think this guy doesnt speak the same english that we do!!!
 
wmj1570 said:
Spikemydog, Please dont post here again you obviously dont know what you are talking about, and apparently dont want to suck it up and learn. I myself am trying to learn about aas. Save your BullShit for another board. I think this guy doesnt speak the same english that we do!!!
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lol..i know bro....its funny how stubburn some people are....
 
bicept101..lets get back to the original question....when does time off start.....time off is time off of your cycle.weather or not someone uses pct is moot in this case.i think what your problem here is you are referring to the --time on=time off --therory.this doesnot fall into play with the original question does it?????????????
....personally i do two 10 week cycles a year so i really dont need to count.so to your therory of 6 weeks on juice 3weeks off than 3 weeks of pct is a 12 week cycle is crap. if you were competing or were a well trained/paid athelete than the real time to start back on would be when your blood tests and your trainer said so.
 
If you are using the time on, time off calculations than you count "time on" as being until you complete your pct, or your hormones return to normal on thier own.
 
spikemydog said:
bicept101..lets get back to the original question....when does time off start.....time off is time off of your cycle.weather or not someone uses pct is moot in this case.i think what your problem here is you are referring to the --time on=time off --therory.this doesnot fall into play with the original question does it?????????????
....personally i do two 10 week cycles a year so i really dont need to count.so to your therory of 6 weeks on juice 3weeks off than 3 weeks of pct is a 12 week cycle is crap. if you were competing or were a well trained/paid athelete than the real time to start back on would be when your blood tests and your trainer said so.
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ok title of the thread....WHEN DOES TIME OFF BEGIN?
...its very simple. time off begins the same whether u follow the timeoff=time on thing or if u go back on when your blood tests come out normal again

so....time off begins when pct is OVER, SIMPLE......do u understand?
 
spikemydog said:
bicept101..lets get back to the original question....when does time off start.....time off is time off of your cycle.weather or not someone uses pct is moot in this case.i think what your problem here is you are referring to the --time on=time off --therory.this doesnot fall into play with the original question does it?????????????
....personally i do two 10 week cycles a year so i really dont need to count.so to your therory of 6 weeks on juice 3weeks off than 3 weeks of pct is a 12 week cycle is crap. if you were competing or were a well trained/paid athelete than the real time to start back on would be when your blood tests and your trainer said so.
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ok...lol...my little theory...i like that

no...if u did 6 weeks of prop then you could start pct about 4 days after the last shot. it all depends on what the clearing tiime for the drugs are.

the fact of the matter is that pct should not be started untill androgen levels have fallen way down cause recovory can not be made untill this happens. hence why we wait untill the drug clearing time has passed. so when using sust, eq, or deca, to name a few, u must what 3 weeks to let the drug clear. or pct for a fina, prop, masteron cycle has to be started 4 days after the last shot.


so when ever your pct is up thats when time off begins...

you cant say, pct for all oil based aas should be started 1 weeks after the last shot....cause thats false and its bound to fail one day depending on what you are using...i have already listed compounds that go way over the week mark....what else do u want...try me
 
read this spike this will answer better than i can......

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When To Start Clomid
The correct time to commence Clomid depends on the type and cycle of steroids you have been using. different steroids have different half-lifes (indicates the time a substance diminishes in blood), and Clomid administration should be taken accordingly.

As we have seen above, Clomid taken when androgen levels in our blood are still high will be a waste. It is crucial to wait for androgen levels to fall before implementing our Clomid therapy. However, if taken too late we could possibly lose gains.

The list below determines when you should start Clomid. Select from the list any steroids you've used in your cycle and whichever one has the latest starting point is the time to commence Clomid. For example, if Dianabol, Sustanon and Winstrol were cycled, the time for administering Clomid should be 3 weeks post cycle, as Sustanon remains active in the body for the longest period of time.

Steroid Time after
last administration Length of
Clomid Cycle
Anadrol50/Anapolan50: 8 - 12 hours 3 weeks
Deca durabolan: 3 weeks 4 weeks
Dianabol: 4 - 8 hours 3 weeks
Equipoise: 17 - 21 days 3 weeks
Finajet/Trenbolone: 3 days 3 weeks
Primabolan depot: 10 - 14 days 2 weeks
Sustanon: 3 weeks 3 weeks
Testosterone Cypionate: 2 weeks 3 weeks
Testosterone Enanthate/Testaviron: 2 weeks 3 weeks
Testosterone Propionate: 3 days 3 weeks
Testosterone Suspension: 4 - 8 hours 2-3 weeks
Winstrol 8 - 12 hours 2-3 weeks

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now...any questions?
 
good contribution bicepts. thats a keeper.
 
jubei said:
If you are using the time on, time off calculations than you count "time on" as being until you complete your pct, or your hormones return to normal on thier own.
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Bingo. Thanks.

bicepts101, I appreciate your contributions to this thread. We are all here to learn and if people can’t take advice, those people shouldn’t be here.
 
wmj1570 said:
Spikemydog, Please dont post here again you obviously dont know what you are talking about, and apparently dont want to suck it up and learn. I myself am trying to learn about aas. Save your BullShit for another board. I think this guy doesnt speak the same english that we do!!!
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^Agreed.

This guy sent me a PM saying "bro, i'm not your friend." LoL. Well of course not. I do not make friends with individuals such as yourself.
 
You sent a pm to state the implications of an obviously sarcastic remark? Oh boy.
 
im just discussing.thats what this boards all about.i dont need help on this topic but seems b101 likes to bully his way to make me think different.im not bullying anyone.....weather or not pct counts or not everyones different and everyone cycle and a/s is different.
 
spikemydog said:
im just discussing.thats what this boards all about.i dont need help on this topic but seems b101 likes to bully his way to make me think different.im not bullying anyone.....weather or not pct counts or not everyones different and everyone cycle and a/s is different.
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man, you are one stubbern mofo...oh well cant say i didnt try
 
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