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When Do you FEEL the VAR kick in.?

You're not going to see any major kicks in size or aggression, but you'll probably start to see some increase in lifts in a week or two.
 
solidspine said:
Most people who use it tell me they feel it kick in right after their period.


LMFAO...I didnt wanna make waves because I know so many guys on here love var, but it's fucking garbage. Hop on some fina already and stop wasting money. If I ever need a cycle for my gf I can just scroll down this board and look for all the $1500 primo-var "summer cutters". LOL what a joke.

What's really comical is that these kids actually believe that 80-100 mg is safe and doesn't suppress your HPTA.
 
var sucks? good to know..
 
It doesn't suck per se, it's just so mild and there's so many more things to use for better results and much less $$. Like I said, many are fooled into thinking that it's safe at the high doses they run it at, and that it's easier on the HPTA. It's not.

For the life of me I don't understand why everyone just doesn't run test/tren and either dbol to bulk or winstrol to cut. I don't see the need for anything else, maybe some deca for joints. But really, all these exotic primo/masteron/anavar cycles are just a way for labs to make a profit on the lack of information their customers possess.

FWIW I do compete, and I, nor anyone else I know that competes, including a few pro's I've talked to, use anavar. They actually laugh about it.
 
52_21_30 said:
It doesn't suck per se, it's just so mild and there's so many more things to use for better results and much less $$. Like I said, many are fooled into thinking that it's safe at the high doses they run it at, and that it's easier on the HPTA. It's not.

For the life of me I don't understand why everyone just doesn't run test/tren and either dbol to bulk or winstrol to cut. I don't see the need for anything else, maybe some deca for joints. But really, all these exotic primo/masteron/anavar cycles are just a way for labs to make a profit on the lack of information their customers possess.

FWIW I do compete, and I, nor anyone else I know that competes, including a few pro's I've talked to, use anavar. They actually laugh about it.
..... iiinteresting!!
 
FWIW, all the buzz var is receiving on these sights (especially since spring break and summer vaca are waiting in the wings) is just going to give sources the wherewithall to keep their prices nice and high. Oh, and did I mention that unless you're getting pharm grade stuff, all UG labs underdose their var. Yes, they ALL do, even BD. The chinese powder's used to make the caps are underdosed, and then the labs themselves underdose the caps.

Just something to think about...
 
Anavar has always been fine for girls, nothing has changed, and why everyone wants to include it in their cycle is beyond me.

There seems to be a serious fundamental lack of understanding of anabolics or a lot of misinformation by people who have not used gear.
 
Stallion at 10 tabs per day (either 45 or 95 miligrams depending on the batch) can be felt the first or second day! I assume it is the higher dose. Bah Bah Bah ... :)
 
52_21_30 said:
The chinese powder's used to make the caps are underdosed, and then the labs themselves underdose the caps.
you got any lab tests to back that up? I know plenty of guys that homebrew thier own var with chinese powder. and they are getting great results from it. absolutely love the shit. Var is NOT gonna blow you up like dbol or drol, but its a solid muscle gain, not water.
 
solidspine said:
Anavar has always been fine for girls, nothing has changed, and why everyone wants to include it in their cycle is beyond me.

There seems to be a serious fundamental lack of understanding of anabolics or a lot of misinformation by people who have not used gear.
Well I have did every steroid but tren and var is my second favorite test is #1. What is the misinformation with var?
 
tin2 said:
When Do you FEEL the VAR kick in.?
I noticed pumps in the gym on day 1. I'm currently on day 5 of 60/mg daily w/50 mg proviron. We'll see how strength gains improve as the cycle progresses.
 
52_21_30 said:
It doesn't suck per se, it's just so mild and there's so many more things to use for better results and much less $$. Like I said, many are fooled into thinking that it's safe at the high doses they run it at, and that it's easier on the HPTA. It's not.

For the life of me I don't understand why everyone just doesn't run test/tren and either dbol to bulk or winstrol to cut. I don't see the need for anything else, maybe some deca for joints. But really, all these exotic primo/masteron/anavar cycles are just a way for labs to make a profit on the lack of information their customers possess.

FWIW I do compete, and I, nor anyone else I know that competes, including a few pro's I've talked to, use anavar. They actually laugh about it.

it is a weak aas, but my insurance pays for it.........so i'll take it. 50mg/mth costs me a $25 copay. i've been able to stockpile real, legit oxandrolone for practically nothing. will probably never use it all, but it's nice to know it's there.
 
jronimoe15 said:
it is a weak aas, but my insurance pays for it.........so i'll take it. 50mg/mth costs me a $25 copay. i've been able to stockpile real, legit oxandrolone for practically nothing. will probably never use it all, but it's nice to know it's there.


why would your insurance pay for var for you unless there is somthing really wrong with you AIDS maybe or Cancer i doubt any insurance would pay for it other wise
 
jronimoe15 said:
it is a weak aas, but my insurance pays for it.........so i'll take it. 50mg/mth costs me a $25 copay. i've been able to stockpile real, legit oxandrolone for practically nothing. will probably never use it all, but it's nice to know it's there.
How long have you had AIDS or other complications. Did they prescribe it right away or after a while?
 
what the hell? who does younggunns keep pissing off? thats the third time he's been bombed in three days lol poor guy
 
var rocks

feel it after 7 days and then by the third week strength should be up as much as 25%

fucks your cholesterol though and your joints if you're old like me.
 
BBkingpin said:
Stallion at 10 tabs per day (either 45 or 95 miligrams depending on the batch) can be felt the first or second day! I assume it is the higher dose. Bah Bah Bah ... :)

Yeah - 100mg of var can be felt pretty quickly..LOL
 
palehorse51 said:
you got any lab tests to back that up? I know plenty of guys that homebrew thier own var with chinese powder. and they are getting great results from it. absolutely love the shit. Var is NOT gonna blow you up like dbol or drol, but its a solid muscle gain, not water.


There was a thread a while back. I'm not plat so I can't search for it. And its silly to compare it to dbol or anadrol. For me it's winny over var any day of the week. It's waaaay cheaper and, for me, works much better.
 
I dunno.. Im doing Test E/VAR combo .. wanted to try it out .. Not expecting huge gains or anything.. But so many diff opinions, cant say anything till i try.. currently at 60mg/day with syrus labs ..Might bump up to 80mg/day not feeling in yet .on the 3rd day
 
I always end my cycles with 100mgVar/HCG/Aromasin the last 3 weeks.. first 7-9 weeks are balls to the wall with some kind of combination of Tren/Test/NPP/Tbol
 
I used that one too @ 40.
gained 10 lbs real fast.
strength WAY up.

tin2 said:
I dunno.. Im doing Test E/VAR combo .. wanted to try it out .. Not expecting huge gains or anything.. But so many diff opinions, cant say anything till i try.. currently at 60mg/day with syrus labs ..Might bump up to 80mg/day not feeling in yet .on the 3rd day
 
The only reason I am going to try Var is because Winny at 100mg makes my hair fall out.

If 100mg of Var makes me hard and strong but keeps me from shedding, then it's worth every penny imo.
 
I took BD var at 60mgs a day, didnt notice shit so I bumped it to 100 mgs a day. Still didnt notice shit. I was also on test prop and tren every day, so I probably couldnt tell. But I do know that test/tren combo is the all out ass kickn mother fuckall cycle.

Adding in that bitch ass var was pointless
 
It should workout nicely in my cycle since i'm running long estered injects such as cyp and tren enanthate.
 
52_21_30 said:
For the life of me I don't understand why everyone just doesn't run test/tren and either dbol to bulk or winstrol to cut. I don't see the need for anything else, maybe some deca for joints. But really, all these exotic primo/masteron/anavar cycles are just a way for labs to make a profit on the lack of information their customers possess.

I can give you at least one reason. Test often causes backne, and we (women) find that pretty repulsive. If a guy is planning to compete that's a different story, but I'm guessing 90% of users are recreational only. The last time my fiance did Testex Elmu cypionate his entire back eventually become covered with the nastiest acne I've ever seen in my life, and it took an entire year before it completely faded.

Overall I found him less attractive. Yeah he was noticeably beefier, but he was kinda puffy and his back, shoulders, and even the uppermost part of his pecs looked like a Pizza Hut Super Supreme.
 
I had some Var I ran at the beginning of my cycle for 8 weeks at 40mg ed. I had great pumps and good strength gains from it. However for the price I would rather run Winny.
 
tin2 said:
When Do you FEEL the VAR kick in.?
VAR NEVER REALLY KICKS IT JUST WORKS. LONGER CYCLES ARE BEST FOR PROGRESSIVE AND PERMANENT STRENGTH GAINS. WON'T DO MUCH FOR SIZE BUT THE WAY I SEE IT GET STRONGER AND SIZE WILL COME.
 
RottenWillow said:
I can give you at least one reason. Test often causes backne, and we (women) find that pretty repulsive. If a guy is planning to compete that's a different story, but I'm guessing 90% of users are recreational only. The last time my fiance did Testex Elmu cypionate his entire back eventually become covered with the nastiest acne I've ever seen in my life, and it took an entire year before it completely faded.

Overall I found him less attractive. Yeah he was noticeably beefier, but he was kinda puffy and his back, shoulders, and even the uppermost part of his pecs looked like a Pizza Hut Super Supreme.


I understand where you're coming from. But that's an individual thing from person to person. I haven't had any acne since my virgin cycle many years ago. The acne ususally comes from the hormone fluctuations, rather than the dose. And in the off season I use around 1500 mg of test weekly. And you're right, most are recreational users, so using anavar is perfect for them. A very mild drug with mild gains and low cosmetic sides. Like I said before, nobody I know who competes, myself included, use var. I recommend it to my fiance though. She loves it at 10-20 mg daily.
 
dal022 said:
why would your insurance pay for var for you unless there is somthing really wrong with you AIDS maybe or Cancer i doubt any insurance would pay for it other wise


my doctor prescribed it as part of my HRT (no aids, no cancer). my insurance needed a prior authorization, which my doc was more than willing to give. after that, it's just a matter of picking it up every month. i've had the script for nearly a year now. my insurance is pretty damn good. i get extensive blood work anytime i want. i have the Lab Card, which is part of my Principal Insurance and Quest Diagnostics, which pays 100% of all urine, blood, saliva (anything taken from the body) tests, as long as my doc writes up the lab forms.
 
lazer84 said:
How long have you had AIDS or other complications. Did they prescribe it right away or after a while?

bro.........if your doc is cool and will prescribe it, i guarantee your insurance will simply call him/her and ask a few questions to approve a prior authorization. at that point, your insurance either will or they want pay for it.
 
People choose a primo or a var or both stack because its a helluva lot safer than a tren cycle. Some people care about the side effects of some AAS. Lets face it everyone....tren is not a safe AAS. I've used it a few times; dont get me wrong it works excellent. But the sides are just not worth it to some people. It was made for cattle...not people...look at what it does to you while you are on. Anyone ever think of what it can do in the long run? And yeah I know im gonna get responses such as, 'yeah no one knows the long term effects of any AAS'. Yeah that could be true; although test, var, dbol, primo were made for humans. There's a difference.
 
lifthard2005 said:
run var at 120-160mg ed for 4-5 weeks and you wont fucking beleive it!
please share your experience at that dose...
 
boston789 said:
People choose a primo or a var or both stack because its a helluva lot safer than a tren cycle. Some people care about the side effects of some AAS. Lets face it everyone....tren is not a safe AAS. I've used it a few times; dont get me wrong it works excellent. But the sides are just not worth it to some people. It was made for cattle...not people...look at what it does to you while you are on. Anyone ever think of what it can do in the long run? And yeah I know im gonna get responses such as, 'yeah no one knows the long term effects of any AAS'. Yeah that could be true; although test, var, dbol, primo were made for humans. There's a difference.

I agree that tren is harsh side-wise, but the argument of what is safer versus what is not doesn't really hold much water. Just because trenbolone was made for cattle doesn't really mean anything. We still know the sides it has, being aggression, high blood pressure, prolactin issues, night sweats, insomnia, etc. Just because test, primo, and var were made for humans does not make them inherently safer. There's a new diabetes drug called Byetta that has the same effects on blood sugar as insulin but does not cause fat storage. Where does it come from? The saliva of a gila monster. And look at all the drugs on the market now. A good dose of Lipitor can spike your transaminases to levels of a tren/winny cycle, not to mention give you rhabdomyolysis. And what about Vioxx?? That was for humans, and it killed many of them. Off the top of my head I can't remember reading about anyone dying from tren.


All I'm saying is that just because primo and anavar are milder, does not make them safer, and surely not better. People tend to use very high doses of primo and var because they think they are safer, and then they look up and realize they're taking over 2 grams of gear per week!! And even with a 1 g primo per week and 100 mg anavar per day cycle for 3 months, you'll gain maybe what you would on a month of test and tren, using a fraction of the amount of total gear.
 
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OK...ok.. i guess i made this thread on the 19th and asked how log it takes to "kick in".. Well Im angry all the time and my libido is up quite a bit haha .. so I guess it took about 5 days .. Feeling really good though ..
 
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