Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below When all the pre-war tough talk was going on,this was all about making sure Iraq was not producing WMD's,and our sole purpose for possible military action was to disarm them.Now,every news station is on this touchy-feely,"Operation Iraqi Freedom",as if our sole purpose there is some sort of 'savior role for these poor oppressed people'.Anybody else smell the bullshit here?Just say what it is,we're going in to disarm their WMD production capabilities and expell the asshole behind it all,there's no need to sugar coat it for world approval.
When did this war's 'theme' change?
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slobberknocker
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This is one of the weirdest wars we've ever been in. It's just odd. I guess Iran and Syria are next. They're part of the "Axis of Evil," and we've already "accidentally" bombed them.
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VicTusDeuS
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The real purpose of the war is to spread Christianity......everyone knows that!
I don't know,I was all behind the blitzkreig of afghanistan,those Taliban pukes deserved to be mowed down for killing our civilians on our own turf,but I'm starting to smell a real foul smell over this Iraq conflict...I'm not so sure our guys dying and killing their civilians(even if non-purposely)was really the only option,and I'm not really seeing a TRUE reason why we just had to march into baghdad right this moment.
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JohnyJuice
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Dont get so disenfranchised so soon Huck. Saddam learned alot from the last war. He isnt marching his troops and tanks on to the battlefeild to engage us, because he knows they willg et mowed down before they even see us. He has planted his sepcial troops all over to keep people from surrendering like last time. He isnt going to have chem weapons spread out all over. We will find out when he starts to launch them at us when we show up at baghdad.
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JohnyJuice
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wyld1g said:
Oil rightnow is the cheapest per barrel it has been in 10 years. If you dont believe me look it up. You can thank the oligopoly which is the oil corporations for the price gouging. We arent going over there to make gas cheaper. so try again.
HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex said:
We aren't attacking "the terrorist nations" because of 9/11 or the other "terrorist" acts, but mostly cause Bush has oil companies and wants more oil.
This war, just like any other war, is about money. Sad, but it is.
Honestly, if I was in Bush's place ... I would do the same thing he is doing, but I am not so I have to appose this war.
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Well lawnmower man! enlighten us. Did you see the military's first priority was to secure the oil fields? I realize part of all this is daddy's unfinished business! Did you think Saddam was a real threat to the US security? The only threat was to his own people and to the region.
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Citruscide
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I asked the same questions during the recent star wars movies...
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JJ-I will support our troops till the bitter end,no matter what happens...These guys have,and will continue to defend our country with their life,and I hold the utmost respect for all of them.They are following directives that they have sworn to do,and they are all heroic in my book.
What I am beginning to feel uneasy about is our government,they seem to have a mind and agenda of their own,and one that is not easily pinpointed with full rationale.I just hope not too many of our soldiers,both young and old,will have to have to perish in order to satisfy this agenda.
What I am beginning to feel uneasy about is our government,they seem to have a mind and agenda of their own,and one that is not easily pinpointed with full rationale.I just hope not too many of our soldiers,both young and old,will have to have to perish in order to satisfy this agenda.
it is a worrying agenda, one of the reasons im anti war
and it became iraqi freedom when the link between al-queada and iraq fell through and intelligence from the US itself failed to turn up WMD during the inspections
so it now becoimes about freedom. now they are in there im glad the civvies are finally getting aid but they really need to watch themselves as they are so prone to being attacked guerilla style
and it became iraqi freedom when the link between al-queada and iraq fell through and intelligence from the US itself failed to turn up WMD during the inspections
so it now becoimes about freedom. now they are in there im glad the civvies are finally getting aid but they really need to watch themselves as they are so prone to being attacked guerilla style
Yes,the warfare is taking on a sneaky,Nam-ish type of regimen,and this is where things are going to get very ugly I'm afraid.I fear we are going to lose a sickening amount of our men,much like Nam.
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Frackal
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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex said:
That's not what it's about anyway Huck..
WOW...I'm glad some people are waking up....The last few briefings from the prez no mention of WMD ...just stuff about "loosening the saddam's grip around the throat of the IRAQI people"...."..the Iraqi people will soon taste feedom"....." We are liberating IRAQ"...etc...etc...
The whole thing stinks..........they are definately singing a different tune.....Rest assured though that we 'WILL' find something though we'll probaly plant it ourselves then they'll be screaming "we told you so!!!!".....
How many people would of supported the WAR from the beginning if it was just to "liberate IRAQ" ?
The whole thing stinks..........they are definately singing a different tune.....Rest assured though that we 'WILL' find something though we'll probaly plant it ourselves then they'll be screaming "we told you so!!!!".....
How many people would of supported the WAR from the beginning if it was just to "liberate IRAQ" ?
Re: Re: When did this war's 'theme' change?
True,seeing how we never found any proof prior to rushing in there...Bush was unbelievably adamant about going to war here,no matter what.
Frackal said:
True,seeing how we never found any proof prior to rushing in there...Bush was unbelievably adamant about going to war here,no matter what.
hooch said:
Yes,something is definitely going on behind the scenes,I really haven't seen a clear cut reason as to why this whole thing(particularly in regards to risking our men's lives)is something that HAD to be done right this second.Like I said,I don't want to send mixed signals that I don't support our troops,it's our fucking government's motives I'm smelling something very stinky about.Maybe I'm wrong and don't know the whole story,but with the whole way the PURPOSE of this war doesn't seem to have a STANDING definition(it seems to shift around whenever it suits our government,which transcends down to the puppet media),something clearly doesn't add up.If 10,000 of our men die,just to expel Saddam,was it really worth it?I really don't think so with the current data we have.
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Frackal
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I would say supporting our troops is not sitting back and allowing them to be sent to their deaths when we can't even get a straight answer as to why.
VicTusDeuS
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hooch said:
So hootch...if they do find WMD no matter who they belong to, are you going to side with the towel head terrorists and say we planted them....
hooch said:
Likewise...Like I said,maybe there's something they're not letting on to the public,who knows...I'm just concerned that we're on the brink of another Nam here.Hopefully our boys kick ass,take names,and get out of that hell hole ASAP before there's mass atrocities.
DanielBishop
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Hooray!!
I'm glad to see some people on this board are smart enough to think for themselves, and not just swallow everything that ABCNNBCBS spews out.
Seems I'm not the only one to notice that it has nothing to with weapons of mass destruction anymore. That was initially the whole justification for war, but now you don't hear a word about it.... I think it has something to do with the inspectors not finding a scrap of evidence.
Now it's all about liberating the poor Iraqi people. The same poor Iraqi people that the US government couldn't have cared less about a year or two ago.... the same poor Iraqi people who have been subject to the UN sanctions which have killed more than half a million children.... but of course, as Madeline Albright said.... "We think the price is worth it." Half a million kids, dead.... designed to punish and restrict Saddam, but as the first few hundred thousand children died and Saddam continued to live his life of power and luxury, I would think it's time to rethink the whole thing.
Anyone with even a modicum of intelligence, knows the US government doesn't give a rat's ass about the Iraqi people.
The US government wants to control the region, both geo and socio-politically.... and secure the oil wealth.
And about supporting the troops.... I support the troops. In the sense that I want them home, as soon as possible, alive and in one piece.
You don't LIBERATE a people by blowing them to pieces. Anyone who thinks the coalition forces are in Iraq because they really care about the Iraqi people.... well, I have a quote foryou from yesterday:
"We had a great day," Sergeant Schrumpf said. "We killed a lot of people."
(as reported in the New York Times)
I'm glad to see some people on this board are smart enough to think for themselves, and not just swallow everything that ABCNNBCBS spews out.
Seems I'm not the only one to notice that it has nothing to with weapons of mass destruction anymore. That was initially the whole justification for war, but now you don't hear a word about it.... I think it has something to do with the inspectors not finding a scrap of evidence.
Now it's all about liberating the poor Iraqi people. The same poor Iraqi people that the US government couldn't have cared less about a year or two ago.... the same poor Iraqi people who have been subject to the UN sanctions which have killed more than half a million children.... but of course, as Madeline Albright said.... "We think the price is worth it." Half a million kids, dead.... designed to punish and restrict Saddam, but as the first few hundred thousand children died and Saddam continued to live his life of power and luxury, I would think it's time to rethink the whole thing.
Anyone with even a modicum of intelligence, knows the US government doesn't give a rat's ass about the Iraqi people.
The US government wants to control the region, both geo and socio-politically.... and secure the oil wealth.
And about supporting the troops.... I support the troops. In the sense that I want them home, as soon as possible, alive and in one piece.
You don't LIBERATE a people by blowing them to pieces. Anyone who thinks the coalition forces are in Iraq because they really care about the Iraqi people.... well, I have a quote foryou from yesterday:
"We had a great day," Sergeant Schrumpf said. "We killed a lot of people."
(as reported in the New York Times)
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