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What's your take on spanking little kids?
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all the whey
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I am all for Spanking!!!!!!!!!$@dff
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Megalomaniac
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I don't have kids so I say spank the shit out of them.
all the whey
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I have teach girls to spank each other. It builds character.
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the_clockwork
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they are yours do what you want
txbondsman
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yes, but the frequency and severity varies from child to child.
My son doesn't need spanking much, I've spanked him twice in his life, he's 10 now. If you want to disipline him, just yelling or letting him know your disappointed will put him in tears. He wants to please me so much that when he knows he hasn't or he has made me mad, he'll cry and he won't do whatever the trouble is again.
I.E., he forgot one of his books from school twice in one week, I got mad and told him to make shure that he brought them home, he needs them to study. The next week, guess what, he forgets a book that he was having a test on the next day. I was livid. I jumped his ass something fierce, I was ALL up in his face. I sent him to his room to think about what he had done. I got called out to go to the jail and had to leave the house. He went to his mother after I left and said, "Daddy is really mad, I sorry that I forgot my book, I know he wants me to do well on my test that's why he's mad."
Well, did he need a spanking to get my message, no. Was he 100% right in his assessment of the situation, yes. Does he check to see that he has all his books before leaving school now, yes. So far anyway...
Btw, he made a 100 on the test the next day, we had already been studying for it for about a week, it was over 5 chapters of history. I was really proud of him. He's a straight A student, never had a grade on a report card lower than 91 so far, he's a 5th grader.
He's the best thing to happen to me in my life, I did not deserve such a wonderful child.
My son doesn't need spanking much, I've spanked him twice in his life, he's 10 now. If you want to disipline him, just yelling or letting him know your disappointed will put him in tears. He wants to please me so much that when he knows he hasn't or he has made me mad, he'll cry and he won't do whatever the trouble is again.
I.E., he forgot one of his books from school twice in one week, I got mad and told him to make shure that he brought them home, he needs them to study. The next week, guess what, he forgets a book that he was having a test on the next day. I was livid. I jumped his ass something fierce, I was ALL up in his face. I sent him to his room to think about what he had done. I got called out to go to the jail and had to leave the house. He went to his mother after I left and said, "Daddy is really mad, I sorry that I forgot my book, I know he wants me to do well on my test that's why he's mad."
Well, did he need a spanking to get my message, no. Was he 100% right in his assessment of the situation, yes. Does he check to see that he has all his books before leaving school now, yes. So far anyway...
Btw, he made a 100 on the test the next day, we had already been studying for it for about a week, it was over 5 chapters of history. I was really proud of him. He's a straight A student, never had a grade on a report card lower than 91 so far, he's a 5th grader.
He's the best thing to happen to me in my life, I did not deserve such a wonderful child.
vixensghost
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We've spanked our child before since the time out chair had little effect ! The spanking got her attention real quick though!
She's a good kid, so luckily, we do not have much trouble.
She's a good kid, so luckily, we do not have much trouble.
Kids need more beatings these days. And if you think otherwise, you need beatings!
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vixensghost
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I started slapping her hands at the age of three. Her first butt smack was when she was prolly four and got her real attitude.Oy Vey. She's too much like her mom. lol
Rule with an iron fist!!!!
vixensghost
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PuddleMonkey said:
Your mom needed to beat your ass more often.
I would never do it.
If I can train a dog to behave and do tricks without every physically punishing it, you can do the same with a child. There is no need to inflict physical pain. I see two types of people that use physical pain against children:
1) religions types who think the bible mandates it by talking about the rod of correction
2) people who get frustrated and are just too lazy to use negative reinforcement
If I can train a dog to behave and do tricks without every physically punishing it, you can do the same with a child. There is no need to inflict physical pain. I see two types of people that use physical pain against children:
1) religions types who think the bible mandates it by talking about the rod of correction
2) people who get frustrated and are just too lazy to use negative reinforcement
vixensghost
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You'll change your tune when you have kids, Lestat. Trust me!
resqguy
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Lestat said:
Spoken like a true Californian.
One of the first things I noticed when I moved to Los Angeles was how children talked to their parents so disrespectfully. Parents these days, it seems, try to reason with kids rather than parent. It's ok to say "no" and stand by it. I see nothing wrong with a little corrective pop on the ass to let a child know I'm not playing around.
i can guarentee you it won't. I took an entire course on punishment in college and I read a lot of stories and studies and the evidence is very compelling.vixensghost said:
There are many negatives to spanking, psychologically it can damange a child's young psyche, it can cause them to show aggression towards siblings and peers, etc.
but there are alternatives to spanking, you can still teach your child right and wrong without it.
Just the idea that its ok in inflict pain on another human in order to "teach" them something or remind them not to do something in the future just seems so barbaric and basic. We're better than that as people.
txbondsman
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Lestat said:
OH MY GOSH! He took a "college course". LMAO
How about some OJT for ya there LSAT. Have a kid and then you'll go back and tell them that they were full of shit! The little kids that you see in the grocery or mall that run around like wild indians, moms sayin, "Devin, one more time and I'm gonna spank you" and then 13 times later their still saying, "Devin, one more....". Those are the kids that you'll be raising. Grab that litle ass and "POP" the very first time they start that shit, gues what, they won't do it again. If they do, down come the pants and "POP" that bare ass, right then and there. They eventually catch a clue....
a REAL Dad aka Tx
Five across the eyes!!!!!!!!!!!!!
txbondsman
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Lestat said:
Well, as I posted previously, it varries from child to child, maybe you'll get lucky as I have. Be prepared to rethink your situation, too many kids that need to know boundaries and "time out" and shit just doesn't work for them. You'll be dong them no favor by not correcting them to the level that they need. They have to know how to get along in the world, you do what works for the child. If it's spanking, pop that ass. It's called "being a Dad".....
txbondsman
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Nobledude said:
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txbondsman said:
Nicely said!! It's not like we have to spank our kids over and over either. At least with mine.. they get the message. All I have to do now is say that I will hit them and they will act right real quick. You have to live it to say for sure what you will do. I was also one that said " I will just do timeouts" YEAH RIGHT! They are a joke! Never worked with my kids.
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silverstar1025 said:
My kid, never a real problem. Why, I don't know, just lucky. Friends kids, nieces and nephews, etc, sme of them just need a good spanking and some a whipping, making a difference between the two. Time outs, for those kids, just meant that they got to misbehave some more....
In an ideal world, no you wouldn't have to inflict any type of pain, but the fact of the matter is, with young (toddler age) children in particular, sometimes allowing them to touch the hot stove after you've told them NO! 10, 20 or 30 times is the most effective tool. A swat on the ass when that same little kid continually darts across the street or parking lot without holding your hand is also less hurtful than watching them bounce off the hood of a car.
The first time your elementary school age child really pushes the envelope (in terms of backtalking, behavior, attitude) is the real make or break. You let their asses get away with it, it turns into lunatics running the asylum. Some kids you can hold your ground and use time outs, removing toys or other privileges, etc., but there is that oddball one that will push you and won't respond to the best strategies, an ass whipping is better than letting them get their way.
It is far more cruel to raise a child with no boundaries.
It's just not possible to reason with very young (6 and under) children, I don't care how smart the kid is. All they hear is what the kids in the Peanuts cartoons used to: Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah. I tell people, raise them like a puppy, they think I'm nuts. No, what I mean is, SIMPLE tasks, SIMPLE instructions.
The first time your elementary school age child really pushes the envelope (in terms of backtalking, behavior, attitude) is the real make or break. You let their asses get away with it, it turns into lunatics running the asylum. Some kids you can hold your ground and use time outs, removing toys or other privileges, etc., but there is that oddball one that will push you and won't respond to the best strategies, an ass whipping is better than letting them get their way.
It is far more cruel to raise a child with no boundaries.
It's just not possible to reason with very young (6 and under) children, I don't care how smart the kid is. All they hear is what the kids in the Peanuts cartoons used to: Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah. I tell people, raise them like a puppy, they think I'm nuts. No, what I mean is, SIMPLE tasks, SIMPLE instructions.
In training horses, most times positive and negative reinforcement is all that is needed for good results. However, the occasional stud or gelding (unusual in mares, but it happens) may decide that they want 'their way'. Well, that horse is gonna get smacked down - they are too big and dangerous to have it 'their way'. It is cruel to a horse to refuse to give them the training and tools to be a 'good horse citizen'. Why would I treat a child worse than I treat a horse, by refusing to use one of the communicative disciplinary tools in my toolbox WHEN NECESSARY?
javaguru
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I agree, my best friends daughter is ADHD and is impossible unless you are willing to threaten a smack on the ass and follow through with it. She is from his first marriage and while she can be annoying, she is always fairly well behaved because she knows her dad will smack her butt if she pushes him too far, something she enjoys doing. Her mother has so little control over her that she wanted to have her institutionalized. When she was younger Rick would have to pick her up from school halfway through the day because the teacher couldn't handle her. For a while it was a monthly routine.Smurfy said:
DannoMight
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I've never had to spank my daughter but raising my voice practically makes her cry. There are plenty of timeouts given and early bedtimes for both kids.
all the whey
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Smurfy said:
Yeah well he never had to deal with a...ehhhh..nevermind.
mountain muscle
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Tytan said:
Agreed as long as they aren't bleeding that is reasonable.
some reading for people who care:
http://www.mothering.com/articles/growing_child/discipline/spare_the_rod.html
studies show its not even that effective
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3225/is_6_71/ai_n13679032
Are these really the things you are going for when you inflict pain on your children?
distracts children from focusing on the nature of the misdeed --instead it refocuses them on the pain inflicted thereby reducing the possibility that children will understand why their act was wrong
prevents the situation from becoming a learning/teaching situation because the child now focuses on the pain inflicted instead of the nature of the misdeed
often increases humiliation in the child
often lowers self esteem
provides a confusing message to the child because one transgression (inflicting harm on another person) is dealt with by the same transgression (inflicting harm on another person)
exaggerates the unilateral nature of the adult-child relationship and diminishes the reciprocal nature--so important for moral development
inhibits the opportunity to teach the child what makes an act wrong by removing them from the situation
turns the child from instigator to victim thereby altering the roles in the situation and making it more complicated.
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I don't really care what other people do with their children, let them grow up with low self esteem, anti social behavior, and fear. Will only make it that much easier for my children to excel.
http://www.mothering.com/articles/growing_child/discipline/spare_the_rod.html
studies show its not even that effective
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3225/is_6_71/ai_n13679032
Are these really the things you are going for when you inflict pain on your children?
distracts children from focusing on the nature of the misdeed --instead it refocuses them on the pain inflicted thereby reducing the possibility that children will understand why their act was wrong
prevents the situation from becoming a learning/teaching situation because the child now focuses on the pain inflicted instead of the nature of the misdeed
often increases humiliation in the child
often lowers self esteem
provides a confusing message to the child because one transgression (inflicting harm on another person) is dealt with by the same transgression (inflicting harm on another person)
exaggerates the unilateral nature of the adult-child relationship and diminishes the reciprocal nature--so important for moral development
inhibits the opportunity to teach the child what makes an act wrong by removing them from the situation
turns the child from instigator to victim thereby altering the roles in the situation and making it more complicated.
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I don't really care what other people do with their children, let them grow up with low self esteem, anti social behavior, and fear. Will only make it that much easier for my children to excel.
More studies show that spanking leads to increased behavioral problems.
Of course the geniuses here know more than doctors who conduct studies, because this is the internets!
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/113/5/1321
Of course the geniuses here know more than doctors who conduct studies, because this is the internets!
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/113/5/1321
mountain muscle
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Lestat said:
I think you'll find, Lestat, when you get a chance to raise a kid or kids, that for each child some things work some don't.
Some are crushed when you hurt their feelings and just glare when you spank them.
Some straighten up at the mention of a spanking and couldn't care less about time outs and "negative reinforcement."
I think it is silly and presumptuous to exclude any method of discipline without any experience.
A combination works best.
Personally I think that when spanking a child it should be used lightly. Yes, I do believe that over spankings lead to problems....I rarely spank my kids, however if they are about to endanger themselves or others they will be spanked..For instance my child speaks back or acts up- they receive time outs or process of elimination (lose video games or tv)..My toddler touches stove-requires a spanking not too hard but enough to know I mean business....I am sorry but a little tap on the hand or butt is not going to damage a child especially if after you do it you help them to understand why and you let them know that they did wrong but you still love them..You need to reinforce love or the child will misinterpret what you are saying....Lestat stated that spanks lead to bad behavior, yes in some instances it does..That is why it is important to get onto their level look them in the eyes and tell them they did wrong, why they did it, then hug them and tell them you were protecting them and love them!!!!! Dont spank, then yell, and degrade- that surely will lead to issues. I am sorry but a spanked diaper bottom is far better than my toddler pulling boiling water or bubbling grease off the stove onto himself and getting badly burned! If ya'll wanna argue that, well then kiss my ass!
Originally Posted by javaguru
I agree, my best friends daughter is ADHD and is impossible unless you are willing to threaten a smack on the ass and follow through with it. She is from his first marriage and while she can be annoying, she is always fairly well behaved because she knows her dad will smack her butt if she pushes him too far, something she enjoys doing. Her mother has so little control over her that she wanted to have her institutionalized. When she was younger Rick would have to pick her up from school halfway through the day because the teacher couldn't handle her. For a while it was a monthly routine.
Dang..That has got to be rough..I have an adhd child and he is great.Dont get me wrong he has his moments, however I have never had to get him half way through school....Like I stated a little swat on the bottom will not hurt the child, then hell do it...But by all means it should not become a habit, because what happens when the child goes too far????? That is just a little thing for people to think of and ponder on for a bit.
I agree, my best friends daughter is ADHD and is impossible unless you are willing to threaten a smack on the ass and follow through with it. She is from his first marriage and while she can be annoying, she is always fairly well behaved because she knows her dad will smack her butt if she pushes him too far, something she enjoys doing. Her mother has so little control over her that she wanted to have her institutionalized. When she was younger Rick would have to pick her up from school halfway through the day because the teacher couldn't handle her. For a while it was a monthly routine.
Dang..That has got to be rough..I have an adhd child and he is great.Dont get me wrong he has his moments, however I have never had to get him half way through school....Like I stated a little swat on the bottom will not hurt the child, then hell do it...But by all means it should not become a habit, because what happens when the child goes too far????? That is just a little thing for people to think of and ponder on for a bit.
I disagree 100%.mountain muscle said:
There are MANY forms of punishment that are illegal, I don't condone mixing them in either.
Some kids are tougher than others, that is a fact. Even as babies, some are easier, some are not.
I am not an advocate of inflicting pain on the more difficult ones, in fact, I think those are the ones that will suffer the most long term harm from being struck by authority figures.
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Lestat said:
Have any experience or are you just citing "studies"?
What methods do you advocate in your vast studies and limited experience?
Negative reinforcement inflicts pain too, of the emotional kind. Which is worse?
What are you getting at saying there are many forms of punishment that are illegal? What does that have to do with corporeal punishment for an unruly
kid?
Nothing.
Just because you read an article on how to fly a plane, doesn't make you a pilot.
Kids are much more difficult. You are in for an awakening bud.
My son was like that, only instead of me getting him half way through the school day the school principal drove him home (yes, he was THAT infuriated with the kid).Angel said:
The bitch of it was/is, my son is a charming son of a bitch, even when he was a little kid, which is what made it all the harder to deal with.
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heatherrae
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I'm ambivalent about it. I haven't decided. I hope I don't ever have to spank my boy.
on the other hand, I support spanking other people's kids...lol.
on the other hand, I support spanking other people's kids...lol.
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Lestat said:
Really? I don't have any kids of my own yet (like you Lestat), but I have been spanked a few times as a child and I knew EXACTLY why I was being spanked, BEFORE, DURING AND AFTER the spanking. As a matter of fact, I knew what I was doing was wrong and that, if caught doing or having done it, it could very likely result in a spanking/whoopin!
Lestat said:
Again, I knew wtf was going on. I knew what I was doing was wrong (kids are smarter than these ultra liberal Dr. Spoc worshippin, article writing motherfuckers give them credit for)...and I LEARNED that I'd better not do it again, or at least don't get caught doing it again.
Lestat said:
Sometimes humiliation is powerfully effective and kids get over that shit quickly...ESPECIALLY when the spanking is done properly as part of a behavior correction accompanied with an explanation the child is capable of understanding. I've been humiliated far worse by my peers than my loving parents correcting me. My self esteem was and is just fine.
I was in no way "confused" about any part of situation any time I was spanked. I guess I was a bright child huh?
Lestat said:
No, it doesn't, if it's explained. If someone just hauls off and hits a kid for no apparent reason, sure that's confusing. I don't think anyone here would support that.
Lestat said:
How? Again, I KNEW! Kids know. This is bullshit.
Lestat said:
I think it's a great way to teach a child Newton's 3rd Law, "for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction."
It's a civics lesson, "There are laws/rules set in place to govern (every) society. If you break those laws/rules, there are consequences. These are the consequences for breaking my rules."
Should someone who instigates a murder not become a "victim" of the laws against murder?
If someone rapes your mother/sister/girlfriend/wife, should they not face the consequences of their actions?
When will they learn this? Should we leave it up to teachers? Friends? General Public? TV?
No way! It's a parent's responsibility to start teaching their children at a young age right and wrong and the consequences for every action.
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Lestat said:
Bro, seriously...some fucking college courses don't make you better than anyone else. Like the parents here are saying, I bet you will change your tune when you have kids.
I do see the kids that parents like you say you will be...they are the ones running the parents. The parents that cater to their kids and allow kids to run all over them are doig a great disservice to their children and to society. These are the ones who are growing up and crowding up the jails.
For as many people as you can show me who weren't spanked and they're all "good bros" now, I can show you at least twice as many who were spanked who are also "good bros" (who by the way aren't fearful, anti social people with low self-esteem).
I hope some kids got spanked because of this thread.
mountain muscle
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Excellent post CEO.
When I was dating a woman with 3 kids I was always the disciplinarian.
I gave out the spankings. The kids knew it.
After the spanking and me learning, I would make the child explain to me why they were in trouble, what they did wrong and what the consequences were if they did it again. And end with giving them a hug and explaining, again, why they got a spanking.
Worked wonders.
So much for bullshit studies. Kids were better behaved, better disciplined and did better in school.
When I was dating a woman with 3 kids I was always the disciplinarian.
I gave out the spankings. The kids knew it.
After the spanking and me learning, I would make the child explain to me why they were in trouble, what they did wrong and what the consequences were if they did it again. And end with giving them a hug and explaining, again, why they got a spanking.
Worked wonders.
So much for bullshit studies. Kids were better behaved, better disciplined and did better in school.
inkspot said:
Another one! Git her!!!!
inkspot said:
It's not that it's "not possible" to not spank, some kids will never need it. I pray that I have kids like that! I don't want to have to spank my kid(s)...but I will if I have to. How's that for lack of self control?
Done the way mountain muscle just described it, spanking requires complete self control. IMO those who lack control and hit their kids are not spanking properly.
Why is it that some people fail to see the difference? If someone spanks their child to discipline them then they obviously lack control. Do judges & juries lack control when they sentence a murderer to life in prison? Or, did the murderer lack control when he broke the law?
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PuddleMonkey said:
She has experience.
I didn't see her post "studies" without any real life experience.
I do see an inordinate amount of parents promoting spanking on this thread though.
I am hungry and going to eat.
javaguru said:
Thats tomorrow
Shouldn't you be playing with your GI Joe action figures?
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Dr Spock's son committed suicide.
... just sayin.
If you don't believe in spanking, just as with abortion... then don't do it. If more parents spent the time and effort necessary to give a rat's ass about their children (and seniors) then this country would not be in the state it is in.
VERY FEW parents give a shit about their children until their behavior is such that they require discipline. Discipline comes from the word "disciple" = some one to teach.
Part of the solution is to "catch them doing something right." Sadly good behavior doesn't rub off from one child to the next, mostly negative. One of THE WORST things I ever did was send my kids off to school...
Anyway, I believe in spanking when warranted. I have four children and can count on one hand the number of times I had to physically discipline all four combined. They were lovely human beings with their entire lives ahead of them, that is until the family court system stepped in and gave them to a monster. Now they are trainwrecks headed for a life of nothingness.... but hey, nobody spanks them.... right? Hell, most of the time nobody even knows their whereabouts, let alone what they are doing or who they are doing it with.
They have no one to love them either.
... just sayin.
If you don't believe in spanking, just as with abortion... then don't do it. If more parents spent the time and effort necessary to give a rat's ass about their children (and seniors) then this country would not be in the state it is in.
VERY FEW parents give a shit about their children until their behavior is such that they require discipline. Discipline comes from the word "disciple" = some one to teach.
Part of the solution is to "catch them doing something right." Sadly good behavior doesn't rub off from one child to the next, mostly negative. One of THE WORST things I ever did was send my kids off to school...
Anyway, I believe in spanking when warranted. I have four children and can count on one hand the number of times I had to physically discipline all four combined. They were lovely human beings with their entire lives ahead of them, that is until the family court system stepped in and gave them to a monster. Now they are trainwrecks headed for a life of nothingness.... but hey, nobody spanks them.... right? Hell, most of the time nobody even knows their whereabouts, let alone what they are doing or who they are doing it with.
They have no one to love them either.
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It basically comes down to this.
As a parent, if you feel the next to inflict physical pain on your children, do it.
I won't, because that's not what I want my children to learn, or dreal with. Actions have consequences, when the natural result doesn't teach a lesson, my job as a parent will be to make sure that they do learn. This will be possible without causing their brains to register physical pain.
I know what its like to be spanked, I know the feelings and emotions that come as a result. Sure, its great at modifying behavior, I won't disupute that, but it comes at a price.
As a parent, if you feel the next to inflict physical pain on your children, do it.
I won't, because that's not what I want my children to learn, or dreal with. Actions have consequences, when the natural result doesn't teach a lesson, my job as a parent will be to make sure that they do learn. This will be possible without causing their brains to register physical pain.
I know what its like to be spanked, I know the feelings and emotions that come as a result. Sure, its great at modifying behavior, I won't disupute that, but it comes at a price.
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Lestat said:
Hey you don't want to spank your children, once you have them, groovy. If you've raised a child to be a productive member of society, a well-adjusted individual without ever having to spank them, then I say better still.
May I ask you something? Not singling you out, but am speaking to you only because you gave these specific points of view. When a child behaves in such a manner as they would need to be corrected by you, their parent, (or worse, a total stranger) how exactly do you want them to feel about themselves, if not ashamed and that you are disappointed in their behavior?
Shame is a good thing for children to learn, that is, when they have behaved in a fashioned that they SHOULD BE ASHAMED.
There is an old saying in my language that I heard many times when my mother would discipline me for improper behavior. It says, "Better that you should cry now, then that I should cry later." I used to HATE to hear that growing up, that is, until the first time I heard myself repeating that same statement to my own children. Because I really had NO CLUE what it truly meant until I felt the need to punish my own children. I cried... I still cry when I think about it.
I will give you a small but incredibly effective example of how to discipline a child without "physical pain" but these children are also at an age where they can reason:
At year's end in the school where my sister's children go, the teacher reads all of the student's grades out loud in front of the entire class and the parents. More important than the child's grades for their studies is their grade for behavior as this grade WILL bring down the study grade markedly if it is bad enough. Now why do you think they do this? Is it to make a poorly behaved student PROUD?... or to humiliate the bejeebers out of the kid and hopefully put them on the proper path?... additionally call THAT PARENT to task for a job that they have obviously not been doing too well?
Both my sister and I have identical parenting styles. Her children excel while mine have zero future unless something changes dramatically and very soon at that.
If only my children had someone who actually gave a shit about them...
Good behavior = praise
Bad behavior = punishment
A child SHOULD be ashamed and humiliated for bad behavior. Problem in this country is that very few have a consciense, let alone know how to get along. Why do you think so many of them are blowing each other away on a regular basis? This behavior doesn't go on anyplace else in the world.
Explain it to me because the rest of the world can't figure it out either.
The old man beat me with a 2x4...it seemed to learn me how to shape up pretty damn quick. No hard feelings.
lol...I remember thowing his ass in a snow bank at my sisters wedding when I was 19. After that we had a mutual respect.
People are not born with the will to be good and comply.. Those little cute boogers are savages, just let them get their way all the time and you'll find out.. Without fear they will become rotten to the core.... So what I'm trying to say is.... beat the shit out of them every once in awhile to keep them in line.. Uhhh not really, but sometimes you really have to.. I used to work with the bad kids as a teacher's aide.. Sometimes you had to physically restrain them and get rough with them. Depends on the child or grown up for that matter. I've wanted to kick the shit out of a few of those lately and probably will eventually.
inkspot
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That statement scares me. You have often reflected on your own personal experiences in this area, tell me has it made you a better person and parent? And what about the children? Do you think children's bad behavior should be punished if it is a direct result of someone else failure to instill proper behavior? For example, you often laminate on you own children's failures, is this their fault or the parent? Will you shame and humiliate them for what has become their life because it isn't what you want?BIKINIMOM said:
negative actions, against negative behavior = negative results
Nobledude
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To spank or not to spank!
This is the question.....please refer to above to find some of the answers as far as spanking little kids goes......
A US survery found out that over 60% of the parents condone REGULAR spanking...
If you can produce a quality , first class progenitor without resorting to the spank tool, more power to you.....
There is no good or wrong answer....but IMO, when every other tool besides spanking fail to produce results....I will resort to spanking...
I regard myself as a quality guy who was subjected to spanking in my early childhood....without it I was very hard to be managed....in my case it worked!
So spank away .....or yell away....your child, your choice..
This is the question.....please refer to above to find some of the answers as far as spanking little kids goes......
A US survery found out that over 60% of the parents condone REGULAR spanking...
If you can produce a quality , first class progenitor without resorting to the spank tool, more power to you.....
There is no good or wrong answer....but IMO, when every other tool besides spanking fail to produce results....I will resort to spanking...
I regard myself as a quality guy who was subjected to spanking in my early childhood....without it I was very hard to be managed....in my case it worked!
So spank away .....or yell away....your child, your choice..
BNG
Well-known member
resqguy said:
No Shit!
I'm not saying I'm the end all to good parenting but my kids are very well behaved, and we get compliments on them often.
We have some friends who are teachers that have taken the child psych stuff, and believed in it. We don't invite them to some things because of the way their kids behave. Just saying.
jon79 said:
If you're even gonna have them you need to hurry the fuck up. Its not like you're getting any younger bro.
Bikini Mod
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inkspot said:
You post makes no sense whatsoever.
You speak as if I have ANY CONTROL over what is happening to my family.
Bikini Mod
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musclemom said:
Thank you Musclemom. Again, the voice of reason.
Until the family court system stole my children from me and handed them to a MONSTER again and again and again, I had ZERO ISSUES parenting my children.
Ms Inkspot... did you hear that? ZERO ISSUES.
My children were taken from me for FALSE ALLEGATIONS and the government agency that was ordered by a court to investigate refused. So now I am neither condemned nor can I get my children back.
With their father they endure, sexual abuse (that THEY allege, not me), physical, emotional and psychological abuse that is clear. They went from being loving, kind, funny, bright children with their whole lives ahead of them they that were WITH ME to trainwrecks that are violent (towards themselves and each other), failing in school, do drugs and one is the town pump since the age of barely 14, and ZERO FUTURE.
... but they don't get spanked. So they are well and happy.
....right?They are only grabbed, choked out, lifted off the ground, told that they will be killed before they are allowed to "live with their whore mother", called worthless pieces of shit, "whores like their mother", etc and so forth.
Yea, they REALLY had it bad with me.
Darlin, I DISCIPLINED my children. And on those rare occasions when I FELT it proper they be spanked, I did it and make no excuses or apologies. Hell, EVERYFUCKINGSINGLEONE of "the experts" who I told of the incident where I felt no recourse but to deliver a spanking to my oldest for staying out all hours without feeling the "need" to ask me first (her sisters told me she was doing this with her father often).... when I asked EVERYSINGLEFUCKINGONE, "Well I don't feel good about having to have spanked her, especially at her age as I feel she is definitely too old. But under the circumstances after I had exhausted EVERY OTHER means of discipline both positive AND negative reinforcement and all but went to school WITH the child and followed her around 24/7 on MY TIME (God knows her father didn't give a fuck where she was, what she was doing or whom she was doing it with)... WHAT THE FUCK SHOULD I HAVE DONE?"
The overwhelming response?
I DONT KNOW.
Funny, I DID know what to do. I did it and for MONTHS the child was properly behaved on MY TIME, that is, until 6 months later when the child and her father concocted the plan that ultimately lost me custody of ALL FOUR.
Now, if you don't believe in spanking your kids - DONT. But don't you and anyone else EVER even TRY to judge me... you don't have a clue what you are talking about...
m'kay?
Now I get to parent online with kids that I have no idea when I will touch again... that are being abused DAILY.
Keep your holier than thou rhetoric to yourself 'cause while others may be buyin what you are selling... I am not.
Good day.
