Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below ended week 4 of test only qv250 test e at 500mg a week, and no gains to speak of really. checked the qv website, everything checked out so its legit. hologram, date, batch number everything. i haven't gained any weight really. maybe a pound or two but nothing out of the ordinary. and i have been hitting the gym hard and hittin the kitchen really hard. what gives?
what's the problem here?
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BIGJAKE said:
well being this is bulking i'm sorta on the see food diet. which really is the reason i can't figure out the lack weight gain. i mean for the most part i'm still crammin down chicken breast, cottage cheese, tuna, eggs, the normal suspects, but i've also been eating just about anything that looks good. as far as training i can see strength gains, which is nice and all but i want the size to go with it. as far as my body, i can't really notice much of a difference really, maybe i look a lil harder but nothing major, and thats not the goal anyway i was looking for mass, i'm ready to turn this into a cutting cycle ....getting pissed
tryn2grow said:
What is your calorie intake?? how much protein?? carbs?? fat?? just remember even if it is a bulking eat like shit look like shit. You should still be eating good clean complex carbs and high protein like 2g per pound. But 4 week's the enth. should have started to kick in by now. Is this your first run with AAS ??? You are running QV 250 right ??? 50ml jug ??
gymratforlife
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4 weeks is still way early bro if you already got 2 lbs you should be more than happy.I dont see ANY gains till around week 5 on long ester test.
BIGJAKE said:
second, first was 300mg deca 250test cyp a week. and no i just have 2 10ml bottles. i don't sit around and count calorie after calorie, but i get at least 350 grams protein, 300- 400 carbs minimum,as far as fat i haven't really even cared much at all its probably a lot which is really why i can't figure out the lack of weight gain. since i'm bulking i was just making sure my protein intake has been high i was thinking maybe i haven't been eating enough, but that can't be the case cause yesterday i didn't even eat like a ussually do and i counted my calories just to get an idea and i was over 3500. i've also been slammin protein shake after protein shake randomly throughout the day when i'm thirsty ussualy 4 a day on top of at least 4 other meals. and i ussually eat something with carbs to go along with those protein shakes. i've even thrown in fast food meals here and there with a shit load of calories and it just isn't goin anywhere.
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Mr.X
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tryn2grow said:
how do you know you're not losing bodyfat? or losing some water? and gaining mass at the same time. It might be your diet or training, many factors.
just remember even if it is a bulking eat like shit look like shit.
this isn't even a concern i don't care if i gain some fat as long as i'm gaining muscle with it, but the scale is showing nothing and my body doesn't look much different either. on a postive note all compound lifts are up (bench, deadlift, squat)
this isn't even a concern i don't care if i gain some fat as long as i'm gaining muscle with it, but the scale is showing nothing and my body doesn't look much different either. on a postive note all compound lifts are up (bench, deadlift, squat)
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Otherwise you are just guessing. Get your diet straight. Some people think they are bluking but are not getting the calories and/or protien that they think they are.
Bluesman
Otherwise you are just guessing. Get your diet straight. Some people think they are bluking but are not getting the calories and/or protien that they think they are.
Bluesman
gymratforlife
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Did you do a 4 week long cycle on test enanthate?If you did you might have well flushed it down the toilet and looked at it float on top of the water,you probably would get better gains from that bro.tryn2grow said:
Mr.X said:
i think i am dropping some bodyfat, but i don't understand that. i'm eating everything in sight. if i'm loosing bodyfat while trying to bulk....should i just cut and say F it? as far as water shouldn't i be gaining water from the test e? been training like an animal thats for sure.
thanx for all the help fellas, i'll consider everything u guys have suggested. i don't want u guys to think i'm a complete mess when it comes to diet. i mean i do make sure i get at least 1.5 grams of pro per pound everyday and that i am getting at the very least 3000 calories, i'm ussually close to 2000 within my first two meals. Should i be eating even more calories?
just another side note i always wake up in the mourning with a 50g protein shake to get fast acting protein to make up for the catabolism while sleeping at night, pwo i drink another 50g shake along with eating at least 60g of carbs, and at night i drink a 50g shake mixed with 1% milk to slow down the digestion process. Should i take some of these shakes out and add food?
just another side note i always wake up in the mourning with a 50g protein shake to get fast acting protein to make up for the catabolism while sleeping at night, pwo i drink another 50g shake along with eating at least 60g of carbs, and at night i drink a 50g shake mixed with 1% milk to slow down the digestion process. Should i take some of these shakes out and add food?
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Mr.X
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tryn2grow said:
post up your whole diet meal by meal
post up your training routine
you might be doing a cal in vs. cal out into a negative zone
Ozz2001
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Diet....Always the answer if your not growing ....Seems to me this excuse gets old around here.If your going to do gear everyone knows they got to eat more of the right shit..ok maybe 1 might not..I take dbol i dont gain shit in weight,i take test i gain great.Now nothing changes from day to day as far as food intake so are we going to say its diet? or Fake gear? Well i say everyones going to react different to what there taking,maybe thats why some people can get gyno fast,others cant.. Test takes a good 3 to 4 weeks to see good results and i think if your not going to run test 3 months at least your not going to see full results out of it...You may also be over training and not leting your muscles get enough rest to heal...Think out side the box....
Mr.X said:
meal 1: early mourning: 50gram shake, bowl of cereal (ussually granola), and i either throw in 4 hard boiled eggs or 3 tbsp of pb washed down with some milk
meal 2: either 2 turkey sandwhiches or 2 tuna sandwhiches with glass of milk
(sandwhiches made with wheat bread and one slice of provolone cheese and hot sauce if i need some taste).
meal 3: lean meat (steak or chicken) with either rice or vegetables
meal 4 pwo: 50g pro shake and ussually a banana or two for fast acting carbs
meal 5: 6 egg whites and a few servings of cottage cheese
meal 6: this varies a lot depends on how hungry i am i just make sure it has a lot of calories and high protein ( i know this should be more exact)
meal 7: 50 g pro shake mixed with 1%milk (also been known to eat half a jar of anpb with a few glasses of milk if i'm in the mood).
*this is what i would consider an average day, on some days meal 3 might be a buffet where i eat everything in site for an hour. i've also been known to eat fast food maybe twice a week for one of these meals. and if i'm still hungry at night i'll just eat everything i see just to try to gain weight. i also snack i good bit throughout the day, a couple hard boiled eggs here and there. i'm sure my diet is gonna get torn up which is good i need the help. this is just a sample it varies a lot i just try to eat 7 high pro meals.
btw ,
i'm 5'11 212 at the moment and guessing around 13-14% bf haven't got it tested for a while. bench 340, dead 495, squat never maxed i'd say should be 405 or a lil better.
day1: chest (bench 4x 2 to 8 reps, incline 3x6, pec dec or cables 3x10, dumbell flies 3x8)
day2: back (deadlift 4x 2 to 8, pull downs 4x6-8, rows 4x6-8, db rows 3x10)
day3: legs (squat 4x6-8, leg extensions 3x8, hack squat 3x6-8, leg press 4x6-8, calves 9 sets)
day4: shoulders and traps (press 4x 4 to 8, lateral raises 3x8-10, front raise 3x8-10, upright rows 3x6-8, barbell shrugs 4x6-8, dumbell shrugs 3x10, dumbell shrug burnout)
day5: arms (close grip bench 4x4-8, skull crushers 3x6-8, press down 3x10, maybe add a couple more sets of tri's every once in a while, barbell curls 3x6-8, hammer curls 3x6-10, iso curls 3x6-8, sometimes burnout)
day6: rest
day7: rest
*i also do calves again either day 1 or day 6
i'm 5'11 212 at the moment and guessing around 13-14% bf haven't got it tested for a while. bench 340, dead 495, squat never maxed i'd say should be 405 or a lil better.
day1: chest (bench 4x 2 to 8 reps, incline 3x6, pec dec or cables 3x10, dumbell flies 3x8)
day2: back (deadlift 4x 2 to 8, pull downs 4x6-8, rows 4x6-8, db rows 3x10)
day3: legs (squat 4x6-8, leg extensions 3x8, hack squat 3x6-8, leg press 4x6-8, calves 9 sets)
day4: shoulders and traps (press 4x 4 to 8, lateral raises 3x8-10, front raise 3x8-10, upright rows 3x6-8, barbell shrugs 4x6-8, dumbell shrugs 3x10, dumbell shrug burnout)
day5: arms (close grip bench 4x4-8, skull crushers 3x6-8, press down 3x10, maybe add a couple more sets of tri's every once in a while, barbell curls 3x6-8, hammer curls 3x6-10, iso curls 3x6-8, sometimes burnout)
day6: rest
day7: rest
*i also do calves again either day 1 or day 6
Hey bro remember this thread: http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=415129
Two days ago (wk seven) I finally felt the test in the gym. I think it depends on how far you are into your natural genetic potential. Everyone's different, be patient. Are you injecting once a week(500mgs) or twice(250mgs)?
Two days ago (wk seven) I finally felt the test in the gym. I think it depends on how far you are into your natural genetic potential. Everyone's different, be patient. Are you injecting once a week(500mgs) or twice(250mgs)?
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gymratforlife said:
Exactly. Wait till the end of week six and, if you still don't have any gains, then start wondering.
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