Whats the concensus on Tbol vs Var?

[Vascular Freak]

I am planning a test/eq/var cycle with some t3 and proviron in the mix. I want to put on a some mass without gaining any excess adipose!

I haave never used tbol.... how does it compare to var in terms of gains, maintaining gains, muscle hardness, and sides?

Tbol is much cheaper and would allow me to run it at 60-80mg ed rather than var at 40-50mg ed. Its hard to research Tbol since its fairly new.....experiences????

 

[chazk]

I am planning a test/eq/var cycle with some t3 and proviron in the mix. I want to put on a some mass without gaining any excess adipose!

I haave never used tbol.... how does it compare to var in terms of gains, maintaining gains, muscle hardness, and sides?

Tbol is much cheaper and would allow me to run it at 60-80mg ed rather than var at 40-50mg ed. Its hard to research Tbol since its fairly new.....experiences????

just the opposite t-bol is very old and most of the studies were done in russia and germany back in the mid 60's to early 70's .its only made a decent comback due to it availability on the grey market from china and seems to actually very cheap to make in a lab.
oxandralone was sold off to a company that bough the steroid in the late 80's to promote its use for weight gain in aids patients,burn victims ,people with liver disorders

anavar gets broken down by the kidneys so if you have a history of kidney problems then it might be dafer to use tbol.tbol mg for mg i have read is more liver toxic then anavar on the liver.

its a give and take for anavar at 80mg a day its very effective by week 3 for massive strenght increases.Tbol is more effective to increase strenght at a lower dose of say 40-60mg a week. but its more toxic so its all gonna be a trade off.


tbol has its following in the powerlifting world for adding strenght and not increasing over all weight that much.
while anavar has its following at high doses to build lean hard muscle period.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

Both are good. Why not use both?

 

[chazk]

Both are good. Why not use both?

lol italian ok ok just go ahead and tell him to throw in a gram of test a week to kick it off .

 

[solidspine]

For mass T-bol is about 3 times stronger than anavar.

T-bol is D-bol with out all the water.

 

[ItalianMuscle27]

lol italian ok ok just go ahead and tell him to throw in a gram of test a week to kick it off .

YOu read my mind!

Seriously, I was thinking of running tbol/var with some test/eq next spring..

 

[Vascular Freak]

Both are good. Why not use both?

Naw..... I don't like running to many orals for too long. I prefer IM since I seem to get less sides and better overall gains.

I think I will stick with var. I was just trying to save some $$ by using tbol but thats not a good reason to use it.

I was thinking of this for a cycle:


Wk 1-15 Sustanon 500 ew
Wk 1-15 Eq 600mg ew
Wk 1-8 Var at 50mg
Wk 1-8 t3 ramped up to 50mcg and then down
Wk 13-17 Test Prop 100mg eod
Wk 13-17 Oral Winstrol 50mg ed

AI's = AIFM and proviron throughout