Great post. I am 5'10 and 210 at about 10-12% bodyfat. I have never used gear or anything else. I have worked very very hard to put on the mass I have. I would love to get enormous. You know the 250 to 260 range, but why. If I had a pro contract waiting for some athletic team that would support me and my family for the rest of my life would I risk my health and well being and do steriods............Your damn straight I would. I would be like, "were do you stick this needle in and make it a big one." However I do not have anyone calling me saying that if I put on 20 to 30 pounds of hard core muscle they have that contract waiting. So for me its all natural. My ultimate goal is to get to 225 and about 7-8% and stay all natural. The gains are coming slower now due to my age and just really getting closer to genetic max, but half the fun of it for me is the challenge of mind over body. In my mind I try to figure way out to trick my body into growning.