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jayson311

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Been lifting awhile with little gains. I have been called a hard gainer. I am 6 ft 170lbs, 22 years old. I take protien and eat well. I have choosen to take steriods. I am a first time user, and i am wondering what i should take and how. What kinda of gains can i exspect how soon? Also how should i be lifting. Goal is to get bigger not cut, thats not a problem. I have time to lift everyday. Any thoughts!? Would really like to take my shirt off this summer.
 
i think alot of guys here will tell u to do atleast SOME research before posting. and i will tell u that u have along way to go before taking ass, and that u should check ur diet. how much is "alot of protein" and how hard do u train? gains depend like 80% on diet...i think with the proper diet and training u could get to 200 without any aas. anyways, welcome to EF.
vic
 
I have done a fair amount a research. And I take in atleast 4000cal a day. Also I take atleast 200gms of protein a day. My diet is something i have research a great deal. I feel that my diet is spot on. I train as hard as I can so nothen can be changed there. Thanks for any help.
 
viczeva said:
i think alot of guys here will tell u to do atleast SOME research before posting. and i will tell u that u have along way to go before taking ass, and that u should check ur diet. how much is "alot of protein" and how hard do u train? gains depend like 80% on diet...i think with the proper diet and training u could get to 200 without any aas. anyways, welcome to EF.
vic

yep. gains come from EATING. Like, a LOT. I can't gain anything unless I eat WAY over my maintenance calories CONSISTENTLY. Don't jump on the juice until you've trained yourself to EAT.
 
jayson311 said:
I have done a fair amount a research. And I take in atleast 4000cal a day. Also I take atleast 200gms of protein a day. My diet is something i have research a great deal. I feel that my diet is spot on. I train as hard as I can so nothen can be changed there. Thanks for any help.

Post your diet log, and how long have you been on this 4k /cal diet?
 
jayson311 said:
I have done a fair amount a research. And I take in atleast 4000cal a day. Also I take atleast 200gms of protein a day. My diet is something i have research a great deal. I feel that my diet is spot on. I train as hard as I can so nothen can be changed there. Thanks for any help.


damn 4000 cals and only 200g of protein?

something doesnt add up. At 4k you should be taking in at least 300g unless you've got a hell a lotta carb loaded/sugar related foods.
 
Food Cal Protein card fat
1 scoop protein 130 20 5 2.5
16 oz milk 260 16 12 5
2 eggs 140 12 2 9
2 bread 130 4 24 2.5
1 tbs peanut 150 7 29 7
Steak 480 98 0 10
16oz milk 260 16 12 5
1 scoop protein 130 20 5 2.5
2 bread whole 180 8 34 3
3 can tuna 450 98 0 3.75
1 cup pineapple 120 0 30 0
16 oz milk 220 18 26 5
1 scoop protein 130 20 5 2.5
2bread whole 180 8 34 3
1 tbs peanutbu 150 7 29 7
steak 480 98 0 10
2tbs ranch 110 0 2 11
Milk 160 12 20 3
160z milk 220 12 20 3
Just went and pulled this from my diary. Sure it could be tweaked but also was way of on potien. 474g total 4080cal. Problem is i have a few buddies who are using and they have made gains that are amazing. The one kid started at like 155 benching 150 and in 2 months jumped to 300lb max,(saw it all) also put on about 20 pounds. I work hard and i am strong but being an ectomorph is hard.
 
jayson311 said:
Food Cal Protein card fat
1 scoop protein 130 20 5 2.5
16 oz milk 260 16 12 5
2 eggs 140 12 2 9
2 bread 130 4 24 2.5
1 tbs peanut 150 7 29 7
Steak 480 98 0 10
16oz milk 260 16 12 5
1 scoop protein 130 20 5 2.5
2 bread whole 180 8 34 3
3 can tuna 450 98 0 3.75
1 cup pineapple 120 0 30 0
16 oz milk 220 18 26 5
1 scoop protein 130 20 5 2.5
2bread whole 180 8 34 3
1 tbs peanutbu 150 7 29 7
steak 480 98 0 10
2tbs ranch 110 0 2 11
Milk 160 12 20 3
160z milk 220 12 20 3
Just went and pulled this from my diary. Sure it could be tweaked but also was way of on potien. 474g total 4080cal. Problem is i have a few buddies who are using and they have made gains that are amazing. The one kid started at like 155 benching 150 and in 2 months jumped to 300lb max,(saw it all) also put on about 20 pounds. I work hard and i am strong but being an ectomorph is hard.


I have a buddy just like you... he's an ecto - prob 6'4 210 but just through eating he's gained 15-20lbs alone. Try a few more bigger shakes and cut down on the random foods/snacks. If you want to really gain I would suggest refining your diet..
 
dugie65 said:
I have a buddy just like you... he's an ecto - prob 6'4 210 but just through eating he's gained 15-20lbs alone. Try a few more bigger shakes and cut down on the random foods/snacks. If you want to really gain I would suggest refining your diet..
What do you mean by random snacks? The diet had nothing i would call snacks?! Am i lost?I have gained about 9lbs since my eating was adjusted and still am very unhappy.
 
jayson311 said:
What do you mean by random snacks? The diet had nothing i would call snacks?! Am i lost?I have gained about 9lbs since my eating was adjusted and still am very unhappy.

Again, how long have you been on this diet? and can you post a log with times, like

Meal 1 - 7 am
1 scoop protein 130 20 5 2.5
16 oz milk 260 16 12 5
2 eggs 140 12 2 9
2 bread 130 4 24 2.5
1 tbs peanut 150 7 29 7

(example only of course).
 
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