whats a better option?

[Virtuoso]

cutting and calorie restricting (to an extent) for the next 7-8 weeks. whats a better oral to coincide with test prop.ionate, win.ny tabs or ana.var?

the ana.var would be run at 45mg for 7 weeks and the win.ny could probably be run a bit higher dosed.

 

[GUARDIAN]

I say var unless u r already at a low bf%.

 

[Virtuoso]

I say Anavar - oxandrolone - unless u r already at a low bf%.

probably not low enough, maybe 13-15%. why im dieting. would love for some aide in that dry look but if the win.strol will be ineffective its not worth it obviously.

 

[GUARDIAN]

probably not low enough, maybe 13-15%. why im dieting. would love for some aide in that dry look but if the win.strol will be ineffective its not worth it obviously.

dont get me wrong though winny has some great properties such as a slight affinity for SHBG to help with free test. but i find u really "see" the difference at lower BF%. both are good choices.

 

[jumpmaster82]

I say var unless u r already at a low bf%.

i agree. imo when on a low cal diet you dont take full advantage of winnys lean muscle gains or muscle hardening. have you considered primo tabs? ive never seen any research to prove this, but primo is known to be the only steroid that works just as well on a low cal diet than on a high cal diet. if you can afford it i would give it some thought.

 

[needtogetaas]

Winny is a pore mans var.

 

[1tight_tl]

So since he is 12-14% you guys say prop and anavar and if someone is lets say 8-10% winnie would be ok as a substitute?

 

[jumpmaster82]

Winny is a pore mans var.

LMAO

 

[GUARDIAN]

So since he is 12-14% you guys say prop and anavar and if someone is lets say 8-10% winnie would be ok as a substitute?

yes if your goals are the same as his.

 

[tdidd42]

what if he runs both?

 

[GUARDIAN]

what if he runs both?

as in at the same time or both in the cycle but at different times?

 

[tdidd42]

as in at the same time or both in the cycle but at different times?

at the same time?

 

[xrsist]

prop and var or winny is always a nice 8 week blast before summer

 

[GUARDIAN]

at the same time?

these two orals r "somewhat" similar. as was mentioned b4 winny is sort of like poor mans var. but in this case, bc of the slightly higher BF, the only added benfit would be winny & the SHBG imo. u could get that from proviron. this is speculation as i have never run the 2 at the same time. the thought 2 run both at the same time never occured 2 me.

Plus winny has increased liver toxicity 17-a and harsher on the joints.

 

[hurricane]

Winny

 

[tdidd42]

i tell you i have been running low doses of test 1.5 cc a week, just bumped up tp 2cc have been doing winny and just started anaver this week. maybe its menatl but i feel real tight and have a constant pump. i am a bit nervous on the liver from winny but i only have 3 weeks left and will have 3 weeks more left on anavar. i will keep you guys posted

 

[Virtuoso]

thanks guys. going with 60mg of var per day