What would you guess my bf% to be?

[rollergirl2]

Can you come be my trainer for at least diet purposes?! No pop or fast food for 5 years? Awesome. I need that. Looking great

 

[Power36]

that blurb about not needing to count cals is absolute bullshit. you can certainly get fat off even just shitloads of meat. ive done it plenty of times.

as for cardio, you sacrifice some muscle size, for more mitochondria in your fibers, which burn more nutrients throughout the day. it probably doesnt make that huge of a difference, but it does have benefits compared to just lifting.

also i think cardio is super important for your heart, and over all performance in the weight room.

Were you eating strictly meat with no carbs? You got fat on a ketogenic diet?? Id be shocked....no serioulsly reseach wise and personal experience and that of others , if you are on a diet that keeps you in ketosis, meat, fish, fowl, cheese, some veggies, you arent gonna get fat....its basically impossible bro....they have done numerous studies on it, numerous....

the steady state cardio stuff is bullshit too....folks need to do more research and get their heads out of the sand...intervals and lifting, steady state is okay for active recovery, but otherwise not going to give you fat burning or other improvements like interval training...folks are so stuck in the folklore and urban myth bodybuilding BS that has been around for decades....steady state cardio and counting calories is for the birds and totally suboptimal....

Other folks talking smack about the guy not being single digits, are you guys doing calipers, or have you been dunk tanked? he could very easily be single digits.....if the numbers really matter he should go get dunk tanked....most folks are probably not that accurate with calipers, especially commercial gym jack asses....dunk tank or BodPod would be better...then if the number really mattered he would have it for sure....regardless he looks damn good being lean like that (not that Im gay hah)

 

[Arabian]

10%. , you look awesome and thats whats important.

 

[pdaddyII]

I wouldnt worry as much about cardio, there is too much research backing that lifting and intervals will do what you need....hard to believe people still on the cardio bandwagon so much, old habits die hard....lifting is more important...

you look single digits, but dunk tank is best way to be sure...because everyone is different how they carry weight and look....Ive been dunk tanked at 7.9% I think it was a few months ago, and dont have abs ripping out of me, so the lady did it four more times to confirm....she said I didnt carry anything anywhere except the midsection, and it wasnt "fatty" but my abs were or are not ripped....so I was shocked as I always heard the below 10% your abs will be ripped stuff...she said its all genetics and individual variances in how we carry weight....

if you live near a major city, or a major university with an exercise science program, you can get dunk tanked for $40-80.....but dude to me you look single digits...I wouldnt be fretty anything, not that it seems you are!

There is also plenty of research on diets that are mainly protein and fats, and if you do mostly meat, fish, fowl, and veggies you do not need to count calories....read Why We Get Fat and What to Do ABout it....amazing book dispels all the "calories in calories out" stuff....and documents tons of research done on folks doing primarily meat and veggies diet, and if your sticking to meat and veggies you can stuff your face and not worry about getting fat...besides anytime I get strict with meat and veggies, you cant or dont want to keep eating, totally curbs your appetite!

This is an interesting concept and I would like to read a bt more a out it. I do find it hard to believe you can eat an unlimited amount of meats/veggies without turning into a fatass. Post a link up bro

 

[pdaddyII]

9-10% depending on water retention the day you test

looking great dude!

Thanks man, trying to get like you

 

[pdaddyII]

how much do you weigh now? looks awsome

similar to what im doing. i was doing 140 carbs on lift days, and 100 carbs on cardio days, and doing 20 min cardio after lift, and an hour and 15 min cardio every 3rd day, at the end of my cycle.

now i am not doing cardio after lift, hitting up IPAMs during my pct, and doing cardio with heart rate around 130-150 depending, for about 40 min, and about 10 min in the middle, and 10 min at the end (making 60 min total cardio), doing intervals, be it on the bike, rower, or sprinting

i always eat the same thing every single day so its easy to track changes because i just either add or remove carbs.

here is how im eating now, and the caloric breakdown for it

i calculated i was eating 443 gram protein, which seems like it may be an over estimate, but i have issues with portion control unless i weigh it out and tend to eat way over that when it comes to meat...i keep fat between 40-50

On cardio Days
40 oatmeal in the morning, 40 precardio, 60 post cardio
=140 carbs, 560 cals from carbs,
Total cals = 2692 cals

On lift Days
40 for 4 meals, and 40 in PW shake
200 carbs, 800 cals from carbs
Total cals = 2932 cals

1 day per weekend ("carb up")
60 for 4 meals, 40 in PW shake
280 carbs, 1120 cals from carbs
Total cals = 3252 cals


i cheated a shitton this weekend though visiting the folks

Yea that sounds very similar to what my diet is. I as well have portion control issues. I even bought a fancy new glass scale but fuk it's hard to get in the habit of weighing everything out. What are you weighing in at now? I used to keep my proteins around 300 until I tested my urine and I was spilling proteins. See if you can get some urine sticks, you could save yourself some money and time.

I'm not changing anything for next couple of months. I will just be incorporating a bit more cardio as the weather gets nicer

 

[pdaddyII]

you look awesome man. no way under 10% imo though. i think the general population guesses way too low in threads like this. i wouldnt stress to go any lower though. 10-12% is badass status.

I think I could stand to go a bit lower. I don't plan on entering the competitive field or anything so I'm not trying to dehydrate and complete carb reatrict. I'm thinking a little more cardio in the mix should do the trick. Will be running deca/test/dbol in a few months though so hopefully I don't blow up like a balloon.

 

[pdaddyII]

Can you come be my trainer for at least diet purposes?! No pop or fast food for 5 years? Awesome. I need that. Looking great

Thanks RG, once you go a certain amount of time without that crap, your body will have no choice but to reject it. Eat to live don't live to eat right

 

[pdaddyII]

ur in the 10s,

dont listen to the 8% guesses, they are wrong, i dont mean to be rude

i think they are thinking 8s because u have very dry look about ur physique i the arms n shoulder region which can be missleding

ur legs still carry to much fat for u to be less then 10%, ur chest still holds little water from the fat and ur lower abdominal isnt seperated enough nor is ur upper abdominal to give you single digit bf%

however dont let a measurment of bf$ bother you, you look great and thats more important IMO then some guy ona forum telling you wat ur bf% really is

well done

Appreciate the feedback breh. I know judging by a picture isn't very accurate but neither is the 35% reading from my broke ass bathroom scale

 

[pdaddyII]

10%. , you look awesome and thats whats important.

Thank you kindly sir. Hey did you ever get my PM? I'm using this new iPhone EF app and when I hit send it crashed and when I went back on it wasn't in my out box. Just wanted to make sure you got it?