What would you do?

[bigbair]

A friend of mine just lost his job and has kind of reverted back to some of his older ways. This primarily involves on and off drug use (coke, pot, etc...) and a fair amount of drinking. Problem is, he's three weeks in on an EQ/Dbol cycle. I didn't design his cycle or anything, I just help him out with the injects. He can't bring himself to do it, so that's where I come in.

When he started this, he was lifting on regular basis and eating right. He's gone down hill fast recently and probably hasn't been in the gym in about a week.

I don't wanna sound like his dad, but I'm not gonna contribute to his decline. He's gonna come to me today for an inject and I think I'm gonna tell him he's on his own, that he should seriously consider cutting this thing short in concession to his health and recent behavior. I'd give him a choice to stop what he's doing and get his ass in gear, but I know this guy and it won't work (plus I've already tried).

What do you guys think? The stuff we do can put strains on your body as is, much less with all the damned drugs and shit thrown in. I'd ask the question about the feasibility of a small PCT program, but if he can't stay in the gym, he ain't gonna do that. Input?

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[CENTURION44]

i was recently in a similar situation...friend of mine started doing H. I pleaded with him and tried to get him to stop....then the devil came out..and that was the end of our friendship. I look at it like this...I tried hard and now have a clean conscience. Not my prob anymore....the deadbeat still owes me like four hundred bucks....small price to pay to get a loser out of your life...

 

[bigbair]

i was recently in a similar situation...friend of mine started doing H. I pleaded with him and tried to get him to stop....then the devil came out..and that was the end of our friendship. I look at it like this...I tried hard and now have a clean conscience. Not my prob anymore....the deadbeat still owes me like four hundred bucks....small price to pay to get a loser out of your life...

H. That DEFINITELY aint good. I haven't given up on this guy totally, he'll be OK in the long run. It's the short run that has AAS in the picture that bothers me. I'm not gonna keep on giving him injects if he's gonna rock and roll and party hell all the time. Its fucking pointless. PLUS, its doing god knows what to his system.

BTW, he did owe me money and pay me back the day before he got canned

 

[CENTURION44]

good for you getting your money back....def quit helping....just tell him hes on his own....cant argue with that...let him kill himself with the AAS....doesnt need you to poke himself anyways.

 

[bigbair]

Thanks. BTW, is that your English in the avatar? Good dogs, mine has one hell of a personality. The ladies love 'em.

 

[CENTURION44]

yea hes mine....they sure do love them....i take him for walks everyday and get approached everyday....he loves the ladies too...its quite funny....

 

[a-bomb5083]

i'd tell him to straighten his life out. tell him that losing his job isn't the end of the world. there are tons of jobs out there. doing coke and being overindullgent isn't going to get him anywhere. tell him to cut his cycle short, start some clomid and nolva, you take the rest of his gear and use it. simple as that.

 

[bigbair]

you take the rest of his gear and use it. simple as that.

I like the sound of that

 

[bigbair]

yea hes mine....they sure do love them....i take him for walks everyday and get approached everyday....he loves the ladies too...its quite funny....

The resolution sucks, but here's a shot of mine.

 

[slat1]

Tell your budy to get his head out of his ass. He has no job but now has an expensive drug habit. WTF is that about.
Lets see. He's blowing coke which kills your apetite.. yet he is using AAS to get bigger. Fuck him. He's an idiot.
Tell him to get his shit together and then you will help him. Keep an eye on the situation. People like that tend to drag others down. I know. I had a lot of friends like that. Its not worth it!

 

[bigbair]

Tell your budy to get his head out of his ass. He has no job but now has an expensive drug habit. WTF is that about.
Lets see. He's blowing coke which kills your apetite.. yet he is using AAS to get bigger. Fuck him. He's an idiot.
Tell him to get his shit together and then you will help him. Keep an eye on the situation. People like that tend to drag others down. I know. I had a lot of friends like that. Its not worth it!

You hit the nail on the head, he is definitely a fucking idiot. I've never thought any different, even when he WAS employed.

 

[slat1]

You hit the nail on the head, he is definitely a fucking idiot. I've never thought any different, even when he WAS employed.

I would distance yourself from this kid. Even being around him could cause problems. Its fine to still be friends but you know what you have to do. You just posted here so that you could hear it from some other people!

 

[bigbair]

True, my mind was made up.

 

[slat1]

Take care of yourself.. You can't help people that don't want it!

 

[CENTURION44]

The resolution sucks, but here's a shot of mine.

cant view...,not platinum....send it to my email....

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[awol1]

you did what you could. we have all heard this before, but in order for a person to change they had to do it for themselves, not because a parent or friend thinks so.

it's seems pretty obvious that your friend needs some therapy. i am not a dr.(yet) but self destructive behavior like this is many times linked with depression and other serious disorders. unfortunately, your friend may not realize this until he hits rock bottom.

don't feel guilty. it is out of your hands.

btw--cool dog.

 

[bigbair]

cant view...,not platinum....send it to my email....

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I'm not platinum either. I just posted it up, it should work fine.

 

[bigbair]

you did what you could. we have all heard this before, but in order for a person to change they had to do it for themselves, not because a parent or friend thinks so.

it's seems pretty obvious that your friend needs some therapy. i am not a dr.(yet) but self destructive behavior like this is many times linked with depression and other serious disorders. unfortunately, your friend may not realize this until he hits rock bottom.

don't feel guilty. it is out of your hands.

btw--cool dog.

He just has trouble taking anything real serious. Not the least of which is lifting, diet, etc... when he's on his cycle. Bottom line is that he's the type that shouldn't be doing it to begin with.

 

[Boston Strangler]

Tell him he is wasting his money on the gear if he continues with his habits. Tell him he should cut the cycle short until he has a better control on his social life because it's just pointless to do it all at once. I have been struggling with an oc addicition and it really wasted my last cycle. Plus, coke and steriods = a major BP risk, his heart could just seize and that's it, all done!!! Don't be confrontational though, no one in that position wants to hear that shit, just talk to him straight up and tell him the deal.

 

[bigbair]

Tell him he is wasting his money on the gear if he continues with his habits. Tell him he should cut the cycle short until he has a better control on his social life because it's just pointless to do it all at once. I have been struggling with an oc addicition and it really wasted my last cycle. Plus, coke and steriods = a major BP risk, his heart could just seize and that's it, all done!!! Don't be confrontational though, no one in that position wants to hear that shit, just talk to him straight up and tell him the deal.

Good advice. OCs are bad news bro. Good luck dealing with that, I know it aint easy. I've seen several people get bad off on those things.