What would stack better and why in this cycle. Deca or EQ?

[Backhouse]

I am currently constructing my next cycle with some EQ that I have had for some time. But I'm now thinking that I would be better off using Deca in its place due to its slightly faster acting and more androgenic nature.
I have included the propsed cycle below. What do you think?

Week1 50mg Dbol, 750mg Sust, 600mg EQ or Deca
Week2 "
Week3 "
Week4 "
Week5 40mg Dbol, 200mg Prop eod, 100mg Winnie eod
Week6 30mg Dbol, 200mg Prop eod, 100mg Winnie eod
Week7 20mg Dbol, 100mg Prop eod, 50mg Winnie eod

 

[overrx]

i tihnk u might have a problem w/ deca unless ur running winnie at the same time, it depends if ur sensitive to gyno on deca

 

[Backhouse]

I don't have any problems with deca and gyno.
So gyno aside, which would be more effective?

 

[mlomker]

I don't have any problems with deca and gyno.
So gyno aside, which would be more effective?

You need to try both and decide. Everyone seems to vary as to whether deca or EQ works best for them. 600mg would be a big dose of deca, though...400mg might be more appropriate. 600mg of EQ is fine.

 

[Hoover]

some people respond better to either or. I myself would use eq. It does not aromatize as much as deca. I hope you plan on using anti E's with your cycle. I am doing a similar cycle as you but using fina instead of winny and using sust throughout. I like eq because it increases my appetite and gets me hard and vascular. I hold more water with deca and if you are not using any ant E's, I would not use deca, with also sust/dbol.

 

[Big Brother Val]

I would use EQ, as I get great results from it, and Deca only gave me gyno. In any case... just make sure to run the EQ for a solid 10 weeks. And if you want it to get into your system faster, front load the EQ... hit 1200 mgs a week your first two weeks, then 600 for the following 8.

 

[Backhouse]

I would use EQ, as I get great results from it, and Deca only gave me gyno. In any case... just make sure to run the EQ for a solid 10 weeks. And if you want it to get into your system faster, front load the EQ... hit 1200 mgs a week your first two weeks, then 600 for the following 8.

I appreciate all the feedback but I am ONLY running the eq or deca for 4 weeks- no longer.
BBVal has suggested running it for 10 weeks. Should I therefore assume that eq is most effective when run for a longer duration?

 

[Big Brother Val]

Absolutely, my man. 4 weeks of EQ is simply not enough. Even if you frontload the EQ, your results will still be just kicking in at that time. Deca won't be much better. Neither of these would be good for a 4 week run, in my opinion. Why so short?

I've hit EQ in dosages from 300 mgs a week, to over 1,000 mgs a week... with test, d-bol, and by itself. 4 weeks won't cut it. It's mild, safe, puts on lean mass... but you need time with it.

 

[Backhouse]

4 weeks won't cut it. It's mild, safe, puts on lean mass... but you need time with it.

This is what I've heard about eq , which was the reason for me posting in the first place.
This will be my third cycle this year, all have been 7 weeks 'on' followed by a 3 week 'off' period. The trend in the UK at the mo seems to be one where relatively short cycles are completed with a short 'off' period. I have personally seen many guys at my gym using this type of regime and make steady results over the year, instead of blowing up on a long cycle and then losing huge amounts of the gains during another long 'off' period.
I think the idea is that these shorter cycles do not inhibit testicular function quite as much as a long cycle and therefore gains are easier to retain when 'off'.
I'm not saying this is the only way to cycle but I thought I'd give it a go based on what I've seen.

 

[Big Brother Val]

I hear what you are saying. Maybe throw in some Fina then. You can run that for the full 7 weeks... it's results are similar to EQ... but I actually gain a bit more muscle, and lose a little more fat on Fina. Just a suggestion. I don't think EQ or Deca will work for you though.