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What type of AS do you think Mark "The Hammer" Coleman uses

all of them and....

Mark Coleman is living proof that doing steroids does not make you tough!! Granted, he is a good fighter, but I think he wouldn't gas as much if he kept the mass to a minimum. Excess muscle mass has no place in the ring...just eats tons of water and oxygen. STRENGTH, ENDURANCE, and NATURAL ATHLETIC ABILITY conquer all. Look at the Enoue brothers since they've gone and got all bloated. Not trying to start anything, just my take brother.
 
Re: all of them and....

death2chuck said:
Mark Coleman is living proof that doing steroids does not make you tough!! Granted, he is a good fighter, but I think he wouldn't gas as much if he kept the mass to a minimum. Excess muscle mass has no place in the ring...just eats tons of water and oxygen. STRENGTH, ENDURANCE, and NATURAL ATHLETIC ABILITY conquer all. Look at the Enoue brothers since they've gone and got all bloated. Not trying to start anything, just my take brother.
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You hit it right on the BUTTON! Size helps but to much mass in MMX will Gas you out quick. Im a submission wrestler and have wrestled lots of guys at the steel plant that I work at that are real big muscle heads and have easily submitted them. Cardio is the main factor lots of people forget about. Size will intimidate people real easy but it not good for fighting at all unless the other guy knows nothing at all. I went to Ohio State also bout 6 years after coleman did and I heard some good stories bout him. heh. His electric bill in his room was outragious so they came to see what was up and found tons of plants he was growing. About the Steroids who knows but I think he cut back on the bulking ones. he used to be bigger when he got kicked in the face by pete williams.
 
No bad blood in this thread bro :D, i remember when he fought maurice smith he was HUGE, but judging from his current appearance i say that he definitely uses winny. His cuts are unreal
 
and as stamina and and cardio go, the winny would be perfect. he's also one strong fucker, so i wouldn't be surprised if he dabbles with anavar as well. limited mass gain, but huge strength increases.
 
i know for a fact he uses growth hormone,equipoise and test. in the off-season sometimes anadrol. and no im not making this up.
 
getting knocked the fuckout

Damn, was it ever sweet to see Randleman get floored by old Chucky. There are few physiques less impressive than his. Yes, Cardio, and Athletic ability. Coleman's been tons better since he cut out the anadrol and whatever else he was beefin' on.
 
i remember when chuck got put to sleep by jeremy horn from the guard..........that was sweet!!!! chuck has learned a lot since then though. who do you think is gonna win with tito and vitor????? i take bjj so i am kinda biased but on the other hand i think tito is a great fighter and i am a huge fan.............i take tito but he better watch out for vitor's hands.
 
yeah between tito ortiz and vitor belfort i give the contest to vitor belfort, his agility and speed i think surpass ortiz, yes and now that you mention it, that was sweet when jeremy horn put lindell to sleep. I love those tapout fighters its all about the attitude:karate:
 
hmmm...

Coleman had no real technique anyhow...ground and pound...fuck any heavyweight can do that.

Then again you can find that outside any two bit mangy ass bar in any good redneck town as well.

I have an extensive background in NHB and for one have always been extremely impressed with the Lions Den and lets face it....Maurice Smith is great, but Frank Shamrock to me by far is one of the greatest fighters of all time.

I would like to follow that up by saying I would love to see an Marco Ruas/Coleman fight....with all my money on the "king of the streets" Oh and one side note..when I fought competively I weighed in at 182lbs. at my weight now I would not be very comfortable.

My opinion,
WCP
 
Coleman was too big to fight. He always craps out after 5 min.

My all time fav has to be Randy Cotour (sp?)

Followed by Joyce, Don Frye, and Mark Kerr.

What the hell happened to Kerr, anyway?
 
i havent fought in any weightclass tournaments, only small NHB tourneys with no weightclasses i weigh 196lbs right now, so id say middleweight
 
Blah blah blah...i think Coleman is number one heavy weight in NHB right now, he did not gas out in a loooong time...and yeah, everyone can do ground and pound, but he is just great at it. If they still would allow headbutts Coleman would be unstoppable. Personally, my favorite was that russian dude who first beat Sperry and was fucked over by Frank Shamrock.(Igor Z-something). Frank was not bad either. Now, anyone know if Bas Rutten was taking anything? he was one scary motherfucka.
 
I would have to say that he uses growth....suspension and maybe some winny. You know that he is taken some methyl also to get him a little geeked up. I think that once you find the right weight to fight at you work with that. It is not all about strength but about quickness, awareness, knowledge and talent. You can know all the moves but if it doesn't come as second nature...you are fucked. These guys are a whole different breed of fighter and I would never want to look in their direction cross eyed!
 
skinnybastid said:
i remember when chuck got put to sleep by jeremy horn from the guard..........that was sweet!!!! chuck has learned a lot since then though. who do you think is gonna win with tito and vitor????? i take bjj so i am kinda biased but on the other hand i think tito is a great fighter and i am a huge fan.............i take tito but he better watch out for vitor's hands.
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IMO I think Tito will take care of him pretty fast.
 
2bpro said:
i know for a fact he uses growth hormone,equipoise and test. in the off-season sometimes anadrol. and no im not making this up.
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Did you test him yourself, or did he call you and let you know:confused: just wondering how you know for sure
 
when vitor belfort won early on in his career he looked amazing for 19 or20 or 21 whatever he was.
i'll never forget how easily he ko tank abott. speaking of tank don't you guys think he's onwinstrol and hydroxy cut! lol.
 
First of all, the only reason Gracie was winning all those fights is because he was the first one who masterd the guard and the Gracie Arm Bar. Now that everyone knows it, he'd get his ass kicked. NHB has evolved like hell over the past few years. And to address the first question, I think Coleman possibly used slin and/or GH due to the fact that he recently (within the last 2 years or so) found out he is hypoglycemic.
 
I got a friend who competed in this stuff , he was the world champion kick boxer for a while. He got his ass handed to him in the cage !! he has been grappling quite a bit and getting better but his job won't let him compete anymore. I'd like to try it but I think that I'm to big.
what does it take to do it ???
 
Nah...i like Igor Vovchanchin, but i was talking about other guy, wrestler, who first beat Mario Sperry. Zinoviev or something like that. The guy was awsome.
 
coleman vrs. tank? this fight would not even be close. we are talking about the number 1 ranked fighter in the world versus a fat ass bar fighter. tank would get killed. coleman would take him down and pound his way to victory. tank is a has been. he is now talking shit about how over rated tito is. coleman looks great at 225-230 and fights even better. i would guess he is juicing but who really cares? mark kerr at 260 was the most jacked nhb fighter i have seen. peace,luke
 
I am personally waiting to see the next fight Vitor Belfort has......that guy is fucking insane and probably one of the few people in that weight class that could give Tito a run for his money.......
 
the vitor tito fight is going to be amazing. i will be there with my buddy who has a press pass. i can't wait! any other elite bros going to vegas? tank by the way is getting paid for sitting on his fat ass. ufc does not want him because his "image'' is not positive for the sport. check out his interview at sherdog and read all the shit he talks. he says 98 percent of nhb fighters are on roids. he also claims he can bench 600 pounds. who knows maybe he is telling the truth? peace,luke
 
no doubt the card looks tight. liddel is fighting i think he is with tap out? are you sponsered by them or something? see ya in vegas,luke
 
nah i just like the image that tapout puts out, Badboy is good too but you cant get bad boy gear here in the states
 
bad boy is hard to get but go on the underground there is a post that tells you where to get it. they don't have the full line but i am sure they have the standard shorts with the two eyes. if you can't find it i am sure i get an e-mail addy. if some more guys from elite are going we should all go hit the gym, peace,luke
 
Ok fellas. I know coleman is good and all but Pedro Rizzo will knock him the fuck out in a pride event. With pedro allowed to throw knees, coleman will just be another bitch on all fours.

Nodody has a chance against tito in the middleweights right now IMO. I love vitor but its not going to last long on the feet and I hope that I am wrong. He has a tendency not to open his guard when the guy on top stands up and drop down those bombs(Heath Herring fight was a good example of that). Ohter than that, vitor looked awsome but again tito is no joke.

Speaking of hard asses, Silva is awsome.
 
I will be there with a few buddies. I live in San Diego and I am from Nevada and most of my friends live in VEgas, so I can't wait to go and see that fight and then get crazy. Vegas Baby.
 
kerr is done. i was his biggest fan after he threw that knee to ranger stout. that was an awsome k.o. he was the biggest and best fighter in nhb. then he got soft and now he is not even a top fighter. he 2-3 in his last five fights. randleman is jacked and juiced to the gills. he is also another fighter who really has no skills. his take downs are awosme but then he just lies on the guy. to much juicing and not enough cardio equals a nhb fighter who looks good but sucks. i'm off to grappling,peace,luke
 
I don't know what kind of roids he uses but he did get busted for weed a while back. His hometown is Fremont Ohio and I went to college with a couple kids that went to high school with the Hammer's nephew.
 
that is really funny i would never have thought of coleman as a weed head. ninja i hope those web sites work out for you. my vegas trip is off due to lack of funds-i am pissed! peace,luke
 
fuck bro!! i wanted some elite boys there to see some ass kicking going on in Vegas! Bro thanks for the website im going to order some merchandise.
 
Coleman and ganja

Who's surprised that Coleman smokes bud? Not me. Have you ever heard that fucking retard talk? Sounds like he's got less than half of a brain left.
Vitor is not the same kid we saw in the earlier UFCs, busting the heads of Ferrozo and Tank and the one peck wonder. He seems subdued and doesn't wanna throw the fists that made him famous. If he tried pussy footing around with Tito, he's gonna get fucking dropped. Anyone see Vitor's last fight? Not real impressive.
In answer to an earlier question...I practiced jiu-jitsu before I started any mma training. I could have skipped it.
 
the one peck wonder-haha. well tra beat igor so he might have one peck but he has stand up skills. vitor is not the same fighter. he broke his hand against sak. who knows which vitor will show up against tito. either way he has a shot. ninja hope the web site works out keep me updated. i am really pissed about not going to vegas but i will be at the next ucc for sure. anyone on the board train with any big names? peace,luke
 
bro ckeck out ufc-tv i am sure they will have ufc ticket info. also check out www.combatlist.com. joe silva the match maker for the ufc comes on all the time. great site. also the guys who run the site train me. thanx,luke
 
Re: royce

willing2be-freaky said:
royce gracie is the best fighter of all time!
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Gracie's are done dude. They never evolved like the other good fighters. They only know Bjj and thats not enough to hang with the competition today. Sak owned Royce. Henderson made Renzo look like a bitch and Rickson has only fought tomato cans. Just my opinion. Wrestlers/Boxers/Subbmisson slap BJJ round.
 
All this shit talking about Tank Abbot... He may be fat, but he produces awsome KO's, that's undebatable. His problem is inconsistency, 'cause he has the tools to truly kick ass.
 
Tank and Royce

Tank and Royce are athletes of the past. Please quit dwelling on them. Much like pro football players from 20 years ago couldn't hang in the NFL, mma competitors of old would get their asses spanked these days. It has been an oddly quick metamorphisis though, and I think we owe most of that to the Gracies. If it weren't for them, perhaps people would still tout neighborhood mullet warriors who are "black belts" in Karate and Tae Kwon Do. Straight-up, most martial arts are fucking bullshit if used only by themselves. You can't do a triple flying back kick when you're on your back and you sure as fuck won't find a use for busting boards and bricks down there. Peace.
 
anybody know if they are ever going to have them on videos(ufc).i think the last was part 21 or something and all of a sudden stopped it should be well into to part 30's by now..
 
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