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What to take with GH?

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yoop33

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I have been trying to look around and ask but not really getting anything. What juice is right to take with GH?
 
Any aas you would use for a cutting cycle, if fat loss is your goal with the gh that is.
If your goal is muscle growth, then any aas you would use for a bulking cycle.
 
yoop33 said:
I have been trying to look around and ask but not really getting anything. What juice is right to take with GH?
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You took the words right out of my keyboard! I've been researching like crazy on this. Some say IGF-1 is better than GH and to just go with that. So, opinions, what say you?
And regardless of which is better, is stacking it with test cyp a good idea?
 
Cyp, enanthate, prop, it really doesn't matter. The steroid and the GH are working independently. The effects of GH are so subtle compared to the effects of test that it's more like window dressing than a strong component of the cycle.
 
worldclass said:
Cyp, enanthate, prop, it really doesn't matter. The steroid and the GH are working independently. The effects of GH are so subtle compared to the effects of test that it's more like window dressing than a strong component of the cycle.
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Just wondering, would that depend on injection method. If you are doing sub-q for fat loss I can see your point. But what about IM for muscle growth? I have wondered about that. People always say you should stack gh or it is not as good. But what you said fits more of what I was thinking.
 
worldclass said:
Cyp, enanthate, prop, it really doesn't matter. The steroid and the GH are working independently. The effects of GH are so subtle compared to the effects of test that it's more like window dressing than a strong component of the cycle.
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I'm going to go with test cyp for the kick off, and the GH for the marathon. Hope they work well together.
 
msam76 said:
Just wondering, would that depend on injection method. If you are doing sub-q for fat loss I can see your point. But what about IM for muscle growth? I have wondered about that. People always say you should stack gh or it is not as good. But what you said fits more of what I was thinking.
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The method of injection doesn't make a difference one way or the other. The best thing to use for size with GH is insulin. But that's for people with more experience.
 
how much should you use sq and how often for fat loss?
 
IGF works faster and more dramatically than GH that's for sure. But you need to have a diet that contains a good amount of carbs to get the full effect of IGF. SO if you are low carbing it, GH is the way to go.
 
Thanks for the help so far. I have read that GH once injected will create IGF and this is what actually does the magic. But I also heard that injecting IGF and insulin itself is more dangerous then injecting GH? Is this true?
Maybe I will just stick with the GH for now and try IGF later
 
kidd73 said:
You took the words right out of my keyboard! I've been researching like crazy on this. Some say IGF-1 is better than GH and to just go with that. So, opinions, what say you?
And regardless of which is better, is stacking it with test cyp a good idea?
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Well, if you are older the GH is the key to success as the sides and over all effect is what you are looking for..

If you are seeking direct growth (some say site growth) IGF would be the ticket..

also T4 50-100mcg during the coarse of the GH..

good luck..
 
Your are going to want to take alot of test with insulin for mass and a powerful oral like dbol to release IGF. One month into your cycle you will need to add T3 also. Thats about it.
 
how would you probably take t3/t4 with your growth.. cycled on and off? or throughout..

whats the benefit of each.. besides fat loss? does growth effect your natty thyroid horomones to need the replacement?
 
yoop33 said:
What is T3 and T4. I have been seeing it other threads but don't know what it is at all
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Thyroid....


t3=liothyronine sodium (T3) is a synthetic preparation of triiodothyronine a hormone which is produced in the thyroid gland. The thyroid gland controls metabolism through the secretion of hormones. T3 is one of the hormones that speeds up metabolism.
GH is one of compounds that slow the release of natural t3/t4 in the body.
 
number 1 most people say to take 2-4 iu because they simply cant afford more to see anything serious with GH you will need to shoot at least 4iu in AM and 4 in pm

now the muscle building effect from gh is from the igf it makes your body release so yeah taking igf directly is great for muscle growth but gh has many other benifits

the ulimate stack for years has been test/deca/(a oral)/gu/slin no need to touch cytomel unless your into contests and wanna shred to peices

spot shooting dont matter I do hear thou people seeing wonders with MGF spot shooting
 
Cauliflower Ear said:
good comments ny bodyguard...what is the longest you've run gh and at how high of a dose...did you run it at 8iu ed like you said?
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at first I did the typical 2-4 iu a day shooting it at night or in the AM and it really did nothing, I did that for over 7 months then a year later I started 4 and 4 after someone telling me to give it another run and let me tell you I turned into a fat burning machine and I started seeing nice muscle gain nothing crazy but def gains I can only credit the GH for in addition it took care of slight acne i got randomly on my shoulders.

Now I have no doubt it made me tired, some days from one second to the other id get tired to a point where I can fall asleep standing up.
 
NYBodyguard said:
at first I did the typical 2-4 iu a day shooting it at night or in the AM and it really did nothing, I did that for over 7 months then a year later I started 4 and 4 after someone telling me to give it another run and let me tell you I turned into a fat burning machine and I started seeing nice muscle gain nothing crazy but def gains I can only credit the GH for in addition it took care of slight acne i got randomly on my shoulders.

Now I have no doubt it made me tired, some days from one second to the other id get tired to a point where I can fall asleep standing up.
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wow bro... what is the 4 and 4? 8 iu ed? is that what you are saying...do you think that 8 iu ed for 6 months would give you better gains than lets say 4iu ed for a year...it is the same amount of growth..just one is shorter and quicker...
 
Cauliflower Ear said:
wow bro... what is the 4 and 4? 8 iu ed? is that what you are saying...do you think that 8 iu ed for 6 months would give you better gains than lets say 4iu ed for a year...it is the same amount of growth..just one is shorter and quicker...
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no clue if id live forever id try it but I do know 4and 4 did good for me
 
10 iu EOD with eq, var, and very little test (250-500 weekly) is bringing out veins and definition overnight. With a dialed in diet and cardio of course. For fat burning and muscle hyperplasia, the higher doses are where it's at (5-8 iu daily or 10-16 iu EOD). For anti-aging you can easily get great results with 2 iu daily.

I also love GH, test, fina, winstrol combo as well.
 
NYBodyguard said:
number 1 most people say to take 2-4 iu because they simply cant afford more to see anything serious with GH you will need to shoot at least 4iu in AM and 4 in pm

now the muscle building effect from gh is from the igf it makes your body release so yeah taking igf directly is great for muscle growth but gh has many other benifits

the ulimate stack for years has been test/deca/(a oral)/gu/slin no need to touch cytomel unless your into contests and wanna shred to peices

spot shooting dont matter I do hear thou people seeing wonders with MGF spot shooting
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I DID HGH WITH WINNY AND TURNED HYPOCLYCIMIC :( AND I WAS ONLY USEING 2 IU'S E/D AND I STILL HAVE A SHIT LOAD OF HGH JUST SITTING HERE .ANY ADVICE ON HOW TO TAKE IT SO I DONT HAVE THE SAME SIDES AFTER 5 WEEKS ON IT ?? I WOULD GET REALLY TIERD AND HAVE TO NAP OUT OF KNOW WHERE AND STARTED SEEING BLURY AND SO ONE .I LOOKED GREAT BUT THE SIDE SUCKED ,AND IT,S JINOTROPIN
 
As far as what gear to take w/ GH, you should use anything that is highly androgenic like test.
If you're running it ed for 6 mos. or more I would suggest running some T3 and/or T4 along w/ it. I've read continuous use of GH can decrease your body temp. to some degree.
 
1968Charger said:
I DID HGH WITH WINNY AND TURNED HYPOCLYCIMIC :( AND I WAS ONLY USEING 2 IU'S E/D AND I STILL HAVE A SHIT LOAD OF HGH JUST SITTING HERE .ANY ADVICE ON HOW TO TAKE IT SO I DONT HAVE THE SAME SIDES AFTER 5 WEEKS ON IT ?? I WOULD GET REALLY TIERD AND HAVE TO NAP OUT OF KNOW WHERE AND STARTED SEEING BLURY AND SO ONE .I LOOKED GREAT BUT THE SIDE SUCKED ,AND IT,S JINOTROPIN
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Sounds like you really need to adjust diet accordingly. Jack those carbs up and you'll be fine bro.
 
gautho said:
Sounds like you really need to adjust diet accordingly. Jack those carbs up and you'll be fine bro.
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Yea I agree. I can tolerate 10 iu daily on 100 grams of carbs. What were you eating that 2 iu made you hypo?
 
how long did it take you to ramp up to 10iu daily?

i have some hgh on the way.. wondering the best protocol to get to a higher dose without seeing sides..

why do you do ED vs EOD? your in your 20s i thought it was better EOD for us younger folks
 
NYBodyguard said:
at first I did the typical 2-4 iu a day shooting it at night or in the AM and it really did nothing, I did that for over 7 months then a year later I started 4 and 4 after someone telling me to give it another run and let me tell you I turned into a fat burning machine and I started seeing nice muscle gain nothing crazy but def gains I can only credit the GH for in addition it took care of slight acne i got randomly on my shoulders.

Now I have no doubt it made me tired, some days from one second to the other id get tired to a point where I can fall asleep standing up.
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I know someone that is doing 8iu eod right now

why did you take the 2nd injection late at night?? why not at 4pm that way you would not interfere with the natural pulse that is the largest when you are asleep??

and at 8iu did you do 5/2 the t3 really helps me with the lethargic feeling i get on GH..

good luck..
 
SpyWizard said:
I know someone that is doing 8iu eod right now

why did you take the 2nd injection late at night?? why not at 4pm that way you would not interfere with the natural pulse that is the largest when you are asleep??

and at 8iu did you do 5/2 the t3 really helps me with the lethargic feeling i get on GH..

good luck..
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seriosuly was just trying to split it up in most cases i take it like 7-9 and dont go to sleep till 12 or so

how do you cycle the t3 in?

thanks
 
jmead said:
how long did it take you to ramp up to 10iu daily?

i have some hgh on the way.. wondering the best protocol to get to a higher dose without seeing sides..

why do you do ED vs EOD? your in your 20s i thought it was better EOD for us younger folks
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No no I meant on the days that I do shoot 10 iu I don't get hypo. I do indeed do 10 iu EOD
 
oh ok that makes sense, so did you ramp up from say 3-4 to 6.. to 8.. to 10, or just go at it to the max and just deal with the sides til you got used to it..
 
From what I have read, I would figure it would make more since to do it ED twice a day. This would keep the flow and pulses regular. What advantage is there to do it EOD?
 
doesnt shut your natty GH down.. its mostly suggested for younger guys with already high GH levels..
 
msam76 said:
Any aas you would use for a cutting cycle, if fat loss is your goal with the gh that is.
If your goal is muscle growth, then any aas you would use for a bulking cycle.
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ie anything.
 
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