What to expect from Tren Ace

[dosteov]

I'm starting TrenAce on Monday running it with 500mgs Test too.

35-40mgs ED for 6-7 weeks.

Never ran it before. Kind of worried about the sides. As long as I see some insane strength and size gains I'll be happy.

Right now I'm consuming about 3500 calories a day. If I drop it to 3000 to try to shed some fat will I still see some crazy gains?

Thanks all...

 

[anal itch]

I think your tren dosage is a bit low. Most will say 75mg ED or EOD. Either way, BUMP for more info.

Are you using test e or prop? I'm planning on using test prop, tren ace, EQ and winny this spring.

 

[stormin67]

I am looking to start a cycle with 400-500 mg tren along with 500 test. I was gonna do sust but, now I am thinking prop instead.

 

[Mr.X]

I'm starting TrenAce on Monday running it with 500mgs Test too.

35-40mgs ED for 6-7 weeks.

Never ran it before. Kind of worried about the sides. As long as I see some insane strength and size gains I'll be happy.

Right now I'm consuming about 3500 calories a day. If I drop it to 3000 to try to shed some fat will I still see some crazy gains?

Thanks all...

Let me tell you my personal experience. I used to run Tren EOD (75-100mg), then (at one point) I decided to switch to 42.5mgs of tren ED. Simply put, I saw a 250% difference in results from my EOD dosages. Thus, I like your ED dosing, and the test looks fine too.

Sides, just like any other AS: take care of your liver, make sure you have anti-oxidant intake, keep water levels at the 1gallon mark +, have daily intake of Arimidex or Aromasin - my choice is arimidex. With your cycle of Test, you can do about .5mgs ED of arimidex.

The caloric intake is hard to judge as I do not know your stats nor goals. Give some stats and goals here...

 

[Tweakle]

it's just another steroid, no bloat and good for strength but don't be expecting it to double your bench in 6 weeks at that dose. Sides are hugely over-rated, as usual when you listen to messageboard clucking.. you will get none off that dose other than a few more lbs on your lifts.

As long as I see some insane strength and size gains

no, not at that dose. If you want to ''blow up'' then drol at 100-200mg ED with the test is a better idea, but I somehow don't think that's really appropriate...

 

[Mr.X]

no, not at that dose.

40mg tren ED = 280mgs /wk , let's say he's at 300mgs + 500mgs of test. He's almost running 1gram of AS, so he'll have some fine gains.

 

[Tweakle]

yeah, probably right there bro.. I gotta stop assuming everyone's over 250...

for a 2nd or 3rd cycle along with a great diet and lots of rest it should be fine but the post makes it sound like he expects to look like arnie after a 12 weeker

 

[Mr.X]

yeah, probably right there bro.. I gotta stop assuming everyone's over 250...

I've found that a lot of people take too much AS. I remember clients coming to me for a 1st visit telling me they are running a cycle of 800mgs of test/wk, 600mgs of EQ/wk and 50mg Dbol/day, that's just insane. On their 2nd cycle, these guys were pushing almost 2grams of AS/wk. I always cut them down to 500mgs of test/wk and 300mgs of EQ/wk.

 

[Tweakle]

I think people read about high dose cycles and think that's what they need.. I won't say that more doesnt = better but 2gs a week is a total fucking waste for most people and nuts for a 2nd cycle. Hell, I won't go over 1.5 these days even when I'm on a 6 week blast.

 

[anal itch]

Let me tell you my personal experience. I used to run Tren EOD (75-100mg), then (at one point) I decided to switch to 42.5mgs of tren ED. Simply put, I saw a 250% difference in results from my EOD dosages. Thus, I like your ED dosing, and the test looks fine too.

Mr. X, are you saying a dose of 50mg ED of Tren Ace is enough to see good gains (225lb, 31years old)? I was under the impression 75mg was the starting point. Would you still do that small amount ED or was that in the past? TIA

 

[dosteov]

Let me tell you my personal experience. I used to run Tren EOD (75-100mg), then (at one point) I decided to switch to 42.5mgs of tren ED. Simply put, I saw a 250% difference in results from my EOD dosages. Thus, I like your ED dosing, and the test looks fine too.

Sides, just like any other AS: take care of your liver, make sure you have anti-oxidant intake, keep water levels at the 1gallon mark +, have daily intake of Arimidex or Aromasin - my choice is arimidex. With your cycle of Test, you can do about .5mgs ED of arimidex.

The caloric intake is hard to judge as I do not know your stats nor goals. Give some stats and goals here...

Hey all thanks for all the input. I should of given more info. I'm running the following cycle:

Test500mgs wks 1-16
EQ400mgs wks 1-16
NPP100mgs EOD wks 1-6
TrenAce 40mgsED wks 7-13

Adex .75mgs ED.

HCG and Chlomid for PCT.

3rd cycle. Prior 2 were Test/EQ and Test/EQ/DBol. I know I kind of stepped it up a notch with this cycle.

I'm 33. I've really only been training seriouslly for 3 years, (started to cycle after 2 years of training and eating properly, probably did my first one a little too early). I wish I had some pictures of what a horrible soft body I had before I started lifting seriouslly. Before cycle I was 5'9 and 178 pounds at about 11% bf. I have a small frame. After 6 weeks in I'm 6'1 and 198 (kidding obviouslly about the height!!). Very happy so far with the gains (NPP rocks!). I feel like I've put on some fat though because my pants are tight and am getting some handles. So would love to be able to gain muscle and loose my handles. I hear Tren is the "magic" steroid and am pretty psyched to jump on.

 

[Mr.X]

Mr. X, are you saying a dose of 50mg ED of Tren Ace is enough to see good gains (225lb, 31years old)? I was under the impression 75mg was the starting point. Would you still do that small amount ED or was that in the past? TIA

I was 215lbs. when I ran that, had great results. High dosing is not always the answer.

 

[Mr.X]

Hey all thanks for all the input. I should of given more info. I'm running the following cycle:

Test500mgs wks 1-16
EQ400mgs wks 1-16
NPP100mgs EOD wks 1-6
TrenAce 40mgsED wks 7-13

Adex .75mgs ED.

HCG and Chlomid for PCT.

3rd cycle. Prior 2 were Test/EQ and Test/EQ/DBol. I know I kind of stepped it up a notch with this cycle.

I'm 33. I've really only been training
seriouslly for 3 years, (started to cycle after 2 years of training and eating properly, probably did my first one a little too early). I wish I had some pictures of what a horrible soft body I had before I started lifting seriouslly. Before cycle I was 5'9 and 178 pounds at about 11% bf. I have a small frame. After 6 weeks in I'm 6'1 and 198 (kidding obviouslly about the height!!). Very happy so far with the gains (NPP rocks!). I feel like I've put on some fat though because my pants are tight and am getting some handles. So would love to be able to gain muscle and loose my handles. I hear Tren is the "magic" steroid and am pretty psyched to jump on.

1) why are you running tren and eq together?
2) Tren is not magic - it's all about your diet, cardio, rest and training (mainly diet)

What's your bodyfat now? if you got over 15% I suggest you get on a diet and drop down to 10-15% bf before you jump back on a cycle. I prefer 10% bf as a good number for starting a cycle.

 

[Baywatch69]

Diet is the answer.. If you find your not growing eat more. No need to up the dose for a few cycles

 

[Mr.X]

If you find your not growing eat more. No need to up the dose for a few cycles

80-90% of the time people don't grow because of DIET not lack of dosage. I can put someone on 500mgs of test and have them get the same gains as they would themselves on 2grams, because I can teach them to diet right. Diet is NOT always about "losing" weight, it's also about gaining.

 

[dosteov]

80-90% of the time people don't grow because of DIET not lack of dosage. I can put someone on 500mgs of test and have them get the same gains as they would themselves on 2grams, because I can teach them to diet right. Diet is NOT always about "losing" weight, it's also about gaining.

Well my bf before cycle was about 11% (I'm already on cycle). What's wrong with running Tren and EQ together?

 

[Mr.X]

Well my bf before cycle was about 11% (I'm already on cycle).

I missed the 7-13, looked like a 1 to me.

What's wrong with running Tren and EQ together?

They are both compounds with progesterone sides. Increasing your chances for complications with the cycle - including progesterone related gyno.
http://www.mmsfitness.com/steroids/profiles/equipoise.htm
http://www.mmsfitness.com/steroids/profiles/parabolan.htm

 

[marshallmadman]

I was 215lbs. when I ran that, had great results. High dosing is not always the answer.

High dosing is NOT the answer. Hard work is the answer.

 

[dosteov]

High dosing is NOT the answer. Hard work is the answer.

Are my doses too high? I thought 35-40mgs ED was kind of the minimum.

 

[c3bodybuilding]

To the original poster, Mr X and the others have given you all you need to know. Others should also read this advice very carefully. The high dose craze is getting out of hand. NUTRITION is the real key to progress.

 

[zips92]

They are both compounds with progesterone sides. Increasing your chances for complications with the cycle - including progesterone related gyno.

Mr. X - I always thought that EQ aromatized very slightly, and gyno wasn't a big concern? Also, at the dosages you are recommending, encouraging less usage, say 300 mg/week for EQ and 225 - 300 mg/week Tren, does that concern you?

Anal itch indicated he was running the same cycle, but was including Winny, which should help with progesterone effects. What would you advocate then if someone is inclined to use Tren and EQ together? What about prolactin effects from Tren, add 0.5 mg/week Dostinex - probably won't help with progesterone, only prolactin. Dostinex, Winny and Arimidex all needed for this cycle, seems a bit much?