what the hell is going on with me??

[WanTtoBeDeisel]

ok what the hell.. 4th week of dbol and deca... the first couple of weeks i got hard and fucking MAD veiny. no joke. by the thirdt week strength was up and i was 12 lbs heavier..not bad. ok well its the middle of the fourth week. the veins are gone, im not hard, and im starting to look smooth, really smooth. now ive never done deca before so i really dont know waht to expect, but i thought is was suppsed to harden you u pa bit.. what the hell is going on here?

 

[Johnny Cut]

u are retaining water, could be the d's whats your diet looking like?...lower sodium intake, maybe a diuretic, u taking a-dex or l-dex for the dbol bloat?, dont worry u will shed the water at the end of your cycle, then back to veiny and tight, just make sure u have a solid recovery set up

 

[crsnavet]

Like JC said. Lots of water. Don't sweat it. Get l-dex or something?

 

[WanTtoBeDeisel]

but johnny, why would i be ripped and vieny in the first couple weeks? that doesnt make sense to me. i mean i was hard and veiny, and now all of a suddon im smooth? wouldnt the dbol effect the first couple of weeks? perhaps the deca actually started working quickly, not enough to see gains, but some side effects like the vascularity?

 

[crsnavet]

So, you have looked smooth for a few days now? Did you change any diet or anything?

 

[BrickGirl]

vascularity is all diet, don't blame the drugs, blame your eating

 

[pin cuishon]

i know what u mean, u get all nice and hard, and then start retaining water, looking all fat and smooth even if your diet is good, u might need a diuretic. i always got real watery from dbols, also, if your looking for the deca to "cut u up" u shouldnt see anything yet, deca always took like a month to start working on me. i promise though, once yer done with the d's youll go back to normal in a week.

 

[Johnny Cut]

but johnny, why would i be ripped and vieny in the first couple weeks? that doesnt make sense to me. i mean i was hard and veiny, and now all of a suddon im smooth? wouldnt the dbol effect the first couple of weeks? perhaps the deca actually started working quickly, not enough to see gains, but some side effects like the vascularity?

This is exactly what happens to me bro, except I use test in every cycle, How was your diet towards the begining?, where u doing cardio?...For some reason, I always lean out the first few weeks, granted i use longer acting esters with test so the first week or so the test is just hanging out and my body is getting used to it. Also people have a tendancy to train harder while "on" granted there are alot of people who train hard ALL the time, but people have more motivation while on, they want to get the optimal amount from every cycle, the deca probably added some quality gains in the begining, from your post, i feel like u may have been lean to begin with, the changes in your diet, not to mention the dbols u were taking are def the culprit, try to stay away from foods high in salt, i take it the dbols are done with now, u should start to lean out, if not 5 mins of low impact cardio...i add some in when i feel like im gettin puffy

 

[WanTtoBeDeisel]

thanks bro, i get bugged out because although i have not gained anymore weight, i feel like i look smaller and fatter. and yes i was pretty lean to begin with. once i start gettin a little puffy i look small and i hate it, especially when in the 4th week teh injectable is usually kicking in. its just fucking with me head.

 

[WanTtoBeDeisel]

hey i have another question. what do you think about maybe throwing in some prop? now that im winding down the dbol i figure i could throw in a fast acting test like prop to keep strength up and add some weight without to much of this damn bloat. any suggestions? i have about 5 weeks left of this cycle.

 

[Johnny Cut]

you could throw in some prop, but remember u will be inj ed or eod....if u can stand the inj, go for it, maybe about 300-500mg/wk

 

[WanTtoBeDeisel]

i know injecting that much sucks. but it works quick. i can get sus too but thatll take a couple weeks to kick in and by that time ill be done with the deca. what to do what to do..

 

[Johnny Cut]

Id say fuck it and get some fina

 

[WanTtoBeDeisel]

i dont think i have access to fina, just enth, prop, and sus. why is fina fast acting?