What supplement do YOU want made.

[lanky]

Everyone has created in their mind the perfect nutritional supplement, i just want some thoughts on ideas that have been floating around everyones heads of where they think the future of sport supplements will take us in the next 5 years.

Unfortunately most of my ideas of a perfect supplement have been rendered illegal thanks to president bush's PH ban of 2004.... i will keep these ideas private for future use you may see one or two in the next few years if i loose my healthcare license.

Some of my nonsteroidal ideas have been in the carotenoid department, some ideas which effect peripheral metabolism of androgens (some cool ideas that effect 3HSD, and 17HSD) which may have implications in sebaceous glands and hair follicle.

other ideas are a little more risky and are a little sickening to most...temporary chemical castration with leuprolide acetate and flutamide,..patient will obtain optimal neuromuscular functioning(through weight bearing exercise
0 with testosterone levels at the castrate level range less than 15ng/dl(just picked the number arbitrarily),,,,,and then discontinue chemical castration medications and may see massive increases in strength and size(when testosterone levels returne back to normal) well beyond what they would achieve compared to controll group( ie..non castrate)....

other ideas include hairloss drugs similar in structure to finasteride,,,side effects may include loss of scalp and penis..lol

 

[jpt]

wtf??? hahaha....loss of penis and scalp???

i'd like a supp that doesn't decapitate me or castrate me...ya know the usual haha

 

[Assertive Guy]

Everyone has created in their mind the perfect nutritional supplement, i just want some thoughts on ideas that have been floating around everyones heads of where they think the future of sport supplements will take us in the next 5 years.

Unfortunately most of my ideas of a perfect supplement have been rendered illegal thanks to president bush's PH ban of 2004.... i will keep these ideas private for future use you may see one or two in the next few years if i loose my healthcare license.

Some of my nonsteroidal ideas have been in the carotenoid department, some ideas which effect peripheral metabolism of androgens (some cool ideas that effect 3HSD, and 17HSD) which may have implications in sebaceous glands and hair follicle.

other ideas are a little more risky and are a little sickening to most...temporary chemical castration with leuprolide acetate and flutamide,..patient will obtain optimal neuromuscular functioning(through weight bearing exercise
0 with testosterone levels at the castrate level range less than 15ng/dl(just picked the number arbitrarily),,,,,and then discontinue chemical castration medications and may see massive increases in strength and size(when testosterone levels returne back to normal) well beyond what they would achieve compared to controll group( ie..non castrate)....

other ideas include hairloss drugs similar in structure to finasteride,,,side effects may include loss of scalp and penis..lol

I think another way forward is increased safety in terms of the ingredients used and their side's whilst still maintianing a good level of effectiveness for what they are designed. So, the supplement itself litterally becomes as safe as eating food (thus preventing the government, or cleaver jackass's halting/limiting their production).

Assertive

 

[lanky]

I think another way forward is increased safety in terms of the ingredients used and their side's whilst still maintianing a good level of effectiveness for what they are designed. So, the supplement itself litterally becomes as safe as eating food (thus preventing the government, or cleaver jackass's halting/limiting their production).

Assertive

I agree 100%, the problem is that currently with the PH ban of 2004 in place, supplement ideas are forced to create steroidal structures that have limited pharmacokinetic/dynamic information, some structures have no previous scientific literature, or if they have the info they base the product off of one sentence of an abstract..

I would like to see more third party testing of products.

as for side effects- its hard enough to predict side effects of FDA approved drugs until they are on the market and patients fill out questionairs in the last phase of testing(which is after the product is already on the market/ catch 22 so to speak).

safe, effective, and legal---that is a supplement companies dream product...oh yea and also cheap to manufacture...because it is all about the $$$$$$$

 

[Assertive Guy]

I agree 100%, the problem is that currently with the PH ban of 2004 in place, supplement ideas are forced to create steroidal structures that have limited pharmacokinetic/dynamic information, some structures have no previous scientific literature, or if they have the info they base the product off of one sentence of an abstract..

I would like to see more third party testing of products.

as for side effects- its hard enough to predict side effects of FDA approved drugs until they are on the market and patients fill out questionairs in the last phase of testing(which is after the product is already on the market/ catch 22 so to speak).

safe, effective, and legal---that is a supplement companies dream product...oh yea and also cheap to manufacture...because it is all about the $$$$$$$

Although I have very little in the way of money, for a product this safe, I'd definitely be willing to pay more.

 

[vin01]

I would like to see a supplement that would allow me to drink beer (lots of it) and not hinder my bodybuilding efforts.

 

[MTS]

I would like a supp that mimicks the amino acid ratio of human muscle exactly and have it have ketoisocaproic acid calcium group or something like that....or any real oral active IGF or GH....none of that fake shit they have out now

 

[lanky]

I would like to see a supplement that would allow me to drink beer (lots of it) and not hinder my bodybuilding efforts.

that reminds me of the movie Revenge of the Nerds where they gave the asian student a pill before the race where he had to drink beer and ride around on a tricycle..

and lamars floppy javelin to match his limp wristed throwing style..lol

 

[Assertive Guy]

that reminds me of the movie Revenge of the Nerds where they gave the asian student a pill before the race where he had to drink beer and ride around on a tricycle..

and lamars floppy javelin to match his limp wristed throwing style..lol

Another thing I'd love to see is an injectable super-dosed Vitamin C. Im not talking about the pussy 60mg you get in a multi-vit, but the 20-200 GRAMS used intraveniously in studies. It just needs tweaking to aviod the insulin spikes and consequent need for constant carbs. Do that, and you may even crack a new and VERY effective way of treating cancer among others.

It'd be a completely new approach to dealing with cancer. Instead of trying to destroy it with chemo, radiology etc, this would boost the body to be able to defeat the cancer/virus etc for itself!

Assertive Guy

 

[lanky]

Another thing I'd love to see is an injectable super-dosed Vitamin C. Im not talking about the pussy 60mg you get in a multi-vit, but the 20-200 GRAMS used intraveniously in studies. It just needs tweaking to aviod the insulin spikes and consequent need for constant carbs. Do that, and you may even crack a new and VERY effective way of treating cancer among others.

It'd be a completely new approach to dealing with cancer. Instead of trying to destroy it with chemo, radiology etc, this would boost the body to be able to defeat the cancer/virus etc for itself!

Assertive Guy

With 20-200 Grams you would be outside the realm of an injection ,,way to much vit C you would need lots of solution to solubilize all the vit.C, it would have to be through IV and dillution with a D51/2 or some other solution,,lactated ringers etc. ....Injection through IM, Subcut, would be impractical and painfull due to the sheer volume of fluid and irritative properties(at your dosage range).

They sell pure ascorbic acid powder at health stores that does not have any filler,,,,You can try an Intramuscular injection or subcutaneous it if you like, but i dont reccomend it

I take pure ascorbic acid powder in 500mg twice a day, i have tried going up to 2G a day but i get sides